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My manager was off today because her dog died on Saturday morning.

803 replies

IwishIwasacaterpillar · 05/01/2026 17:46

Am I being an arsehole to think this is a bit ridiculous?

It seems like it sets a precedent. I have three cats, will I get a day off each time one of them dies ?

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Kingscallops · 06/01/2026 16:20

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:17

Surely the friend who monopolises the conversations with tears is the crap friend?

Oh yeah how unfair she is not to be able to control her emotions. I also don't believe some of these cold posts are coming from dog owners or animal lovers.

Allisnotlost1 · 06/01/2026 16:21

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:16

Pardon me but women have always grieved miscarriages, they just weren’t a topic of public conversation. Comparing this with loving a dog is quite offensive.

Dogs are your slaves though - they rely entirely on you every day to survive. Not just dogs, but all pets. It’s not a relationship of equal power. It’s not odd to say this at all.

Yes, they were not a topic of public conversation, or workplace leave etc. Just something you were expected to get over because it was just life. Toughen up, be more resilient etc. All things you supported earlier.

I think you have misunderstood what ‘slave’ means. Babies are dependent on their parents, that’s also an unequal relationship but that doesn’t make them less than you. Animals and children and any vulnerable human who depends on others should be cared for. Slavery is the complete opposite.

Melsy88 · 06/01/2026 16:21

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:16

Pardon me but women have always grieved miscarriages, they just weren’t a topic of public conversation. Comparing this with loving a dog is quite offensive.

Dogs are your slaves though - they rely entirely on you every day to survive. Not just dogs, but all pets. It’s not a relationship of equal power. It’s not odd to say this at all.

Why do things need to be compared, and one worse than the other. People experience pain from a miscarriage and people experience pain from losing a dog. Maybe if people could just be a bit more compassionate of others when they are in pain, regardless of the situation, we'd all be in a better place.

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:21

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:17

Surely the friend who monopolises the conversations with tears is the crap friend?

A crap friend would be someone who thinks their friend is pathetic for tearing up over a cat they lost.

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:23

Allisnotlost1 · 06/01/2026 16:21

Yes, they were not a topic of public conversation, or workplace leave etc. Just something you were expected to get over because it was just life. Toughen up, be more resilient etc. All things you supported earlier.

I think you have misunderstood what ‘slave’ means. Babies are dependent on their parents, that’s also an unequal relationship but that doesn’t make them less than you. Animals and children and any vulnerable human who depends on others should be cared for. Slavery is the complete opposite.

Babies are humans and we are biologically disposed to have them. They grow into people who have equal and complex relationships with. Nothing like dogs or pets

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:23

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:21

A crap friend would be someone who thinks their friend is pathetic for tearing up over a cat they lost.

A year later - yes I would.

Allisnotlost1 · 06/01/2026 16:25

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:23

Babies are humans and we are biologically disposed to have them. They grow into people who have equal and complex relationships with. Nothing like dogs or pets

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If only that were reliably true. Plenty of unequal, damaging, dangerous and terrible human relationships. Your lack of imagination in being able to see why people have strong attachments to animals - even if you don’t yourself - is a shame. How dull if we were all the same.

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:26

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:23

A year later - yes I would.

Then I really hope you are not friends with anyone who is ever going to experience any sort of loss, human or animal. There is no timeline for grief, and someone having the involuntary reaction of crying is not doing it on purpose and monopolising a conversation.

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:28

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:26

Then I really hope you are not friends with anyone who is ever going to experience any sort of loss, human or animal. There is no timeline for grief, and someone having the involuntary reaction of crying is not doing it on purpose and monopolising a conversation.

Crying constantly a year after a pet had died is not someone I’d be friends with. I do like friendships to be a bit about me.

For human deaths, indefinite time, of course. Because they’re different.

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:28

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:28

Crying constantly a year after a pet had died is not someone I’d be friends with. I do like friendships to be a bit about me.

For human deaths, indefinite time, of course. Because they’re different.

They are different to you.

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:31

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:28

They are different to you.

Because I’m normal.

JH0404 · 06/01/2026 16:31

Mrsblobby88 · 06/01/2026 14:02

Dogs are domesticated to bond deeply with humans, seek approval, and read human emotions. Goats are social and affectionate in their own way, but they bond more with other goats than with people- that’s literally from google.

I dunno.. each to their own obviously but I think a bond between a human and a dog is much different from a bond between a goat and a human.

People obviously handle things differently but in my opinion grieving the death of a goat may be somewhat different that grieving the death of a dog, which is why the pp may be arguing that nobody should have the day off for the death of a pet.

Are we policing the type of pet? Someone could have an incredibly strong bond with a cat, or a rabbit. My Labrador was like my first child but I would still say my closest bonds with animals have been with horses. Should companies have compassionate leave for dogs written into peoples contracts? What about someone who is devastated about their cat? That would be unfair. If someone is too upset to do their job then they can use their holiday or have unpaid leave. It’s a choice to keep animals.

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:33

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:28

Crying constantly a year after a pet had died is not someone I’d be friends with. I do like friendships to be a bit about me.

For human deaths, indefinite time, of course. Because they’re different.

I am also curious as to how you would know any friends you have would be someone who would still be crying a year after their cat died.
Do you interview any potential friends about what previous pets they have had and how they have reacted to their passing?

Many people are surprised by how hard pet loss can be when it happens to them and have been shocked by their own reactions, which can not be helped.

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:34

JH0404 · 06/01/2026 16:31

Are we policing the type of pet? Someone could have an incredibly strong bond with a cat, or a rabbit. My Labrador was like my first child but I would still say my closest bonds with animals have been with horses. Should companies have compassionate leave for dogs written into peoples contracts? What about someone who is devastated about their cat? That would be unfair. If someone is too upset to do their job then they can use their holiday or have unpaid leave. It’s a choice to keep animals.

My mum’s favourite pet was a goose! It was a beautiful one with curly feathers, a special breed she paid a small fortune for, used to follow her around and she’d bath it and watch TV with it 😂 she’d clobber anyone who told her dogs were better at bonds

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 16:34

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:31

Because I’m normal.

That is a setting on a washing machine and does not pertain to the complexities of human emotions.

catontheironingboard · 06/01/2026 16:35

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:28

Crying constantly a year after a pet had died is not someone I’d be friends with. I do like friendships to be a bit about me.

For human deaths, indefinite time, of course. Because they’re different.

I am uncomfortable when we are not about me? As the young people say 😆

Allisnotlost1 · 06/01/2026 16:40

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:31

Because I’m normal.

Normal to you. To me you’re rather obstreperous and cold.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/01/2026 16:42

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:28

Crying constantly a year after a pet had died is not someone I’d be friends with. I do like friendships to be a bit about me.

For human deaths, indefinite time, of course. Because they’re different.

It took me two years to even be able to look at a photo of my dog without crying. I still cry over him now, 5 years after his death. I also still cry over my Dad who I had lost 6 months earlier.
And no, you would not want me as a friend any more than I would want you in my life.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 06/01/2026 16:44

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:31

Because I’m normal.

Well if you're normal, then I'm very glad that I'm not.

Sexentric · 06/01/2026 16:47

Namechange2567 · 05/01/2026 17:48

Not at all ridiculous to have a day off ! I was sent home and given an extra paid week off when I put my dog to sleep

What?? I was given only one day compassionate leave to attend my nan's funeral. And I had to use annual leave to attend the funeral of DR'S best friend (at age 33 very sad)

rogueone · 06/01/2026 16:50

I have only had one dog , he sadly passed in March 2025.

Prior to him I would have been laughing at people taking time off and thinking it is ridiculous. However I grieve my boy everyday, my older kids miss him and we were all with him when he passed, he was part of my family and if there is an afterlife I would hope to have him run to see me, so please don’t dismiss people’s relationships with there pets. Some who have been part of their family for over 15years. I have grieved more for my boy than I have done for some wider family members

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/01/2026 17:03

rogueone · 06/01/2026 16:50

I have only had one dog , he sadly passed in March 2025.

Prior to him I would have been laughing at people taking time off and thinking it is ridiculous. However I grieve my boy everyday, my older kids miss him and we were all with him when he passed, he was part of my family and if there is an afterlife I would hope to have him run to see me, so please don’t dismiss people’s relationships with there pets. Some who have been part of their family for over 15years. I have grieved more for my boy than I have done for some wider family members

My brother in law was similar to you. Never had a dog before up until he met my sister, and was a bit sneery about people who get upset about losing their dogs. They lost their dog last year and he had to take time off of work as he was utterly devastated. They had had the dog for over 16 years. She was several years older than their children, who had never not had their dog in their life.

Sorry for your loss Flowers

JH0404 · 06/01/2026 17:04

Allisnotlost1 · 06/01/2026 14:36

Equally someone could say your husband was cold-hearted for being able to return to work so quickly after losing a ‘beloved’ pet. But that would ignore the fact that people are different and deal with death differently.

Mental strength and resilience doesn’t make someone cold hearted. The way you have written ‘beloved’ pet does not sit well with me at all. This is an opinion post on whether time off work should be given to someone who has lost a pet, and I gave mine. It’s a shame you chose to respond in the way you did.

JH0404 · 06/01/2026 17:07

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 16:34

My mum’s favourite pet was a goose! It was a beautiful one with curly feathers, a special breed she paid a small fortune for, used to follow her around and she’d bath it and watch TV with it 😂 she’d clobber anyone who told her dogs were better at bonds

🤣 We have geese, I’ll have to start getting them in to watch some tv 😀

ShowMeTheSushi · 06/01/2026 17:09

OscillateItsTitsALot · 06/01/2026 08:41

It’s also worth mentioning that compassionate leave is usually for immediate family members (humans) not to give staff time to grieve or be sad, but because the loss of a close family member requires planning, funerals, clearing out of houses and day being occupied with admin-ing everything involved in losing someone. Anyone who’s lose a relative they had to organise a funeral for will tell you how all-consuming it can be. This isn’t required for a pet, which is why the days off aren’t actually needed from a workplace POV.

Compassionate leave is not only about admin and funerals; not everyone who takes bereavement leave needs to organise these. Sometimes people simply need time to console loved ones or process what’s happened. Grief affects concentration and judgement whether the loss is human or animal, and one discretionary day off can be far more productive than expecting someone to work when they’re clearly not fit to do so.

You’re also conflating policy minimums with managerial discretion. Policies set the floor, not the ceiling, they don’t prevent managers from approving discretionary leave. I’ve seen plenty of managers give discretionary time off or flexible work arrangements for their team’s personal matters, including pets. Last year, my manager gave a colleague a discretionary day off when her dog passed away after sleepless and stressful night at the animal hospital. One day of compassion can reduce burnout and unnecessary turnover.