To think loo roll is not enough

[Makinglasagnatakesages]

Not the nicest subject in the world -sorry!

I live abroad and bathrooms have bidees (spelling) I don’t use these, but always use wet toilet wipes which are said to be easily disposable here and not harmful to the environment
Since doing this it makes me think how normal loo roll paper is pretty gross and just can’t possibly get you properly clean 😬

I use Wype. I loved the bidet guns when I was in SE Asia. Would definitely get one installed in my house if I were renovating a bathroom.

& crucially, detergent.

I'm equally as baffled at the idea that squirting water alone at something cleans it.

Rinsing your hands under water isn't the same as soaping and lathering so i don't see that it's any different for your bum hole.

I do this with aloe vera gel at home, one little squirt gets things perfectly clean. I occasionally use a wet wipe when out and about in public loos, and put it in the sanitary bin.

I also believe that if you have a good diet with plenty of veg and whole grains/nuts, you shouldn't being having too much trouble getting clean on a regular day. Just a dab of lotion or gel on dry paper should get the job done. I understand that some people have IBS, piles, etc, and that's a different matter, wet wipes and a sanny bin may be the way to go.

Agree and there is the danger of poo droplets squirting all over the place

I shower twice a day (sometimes more!) and I wash thoroughly with soap and hot water every time. That’s clean enough without using weird wipes or spraying a hose up my bum.

I agree. I had a temperature controlled shitaf installed and have never looked back. I’ve no idea why these aren’t standard in bathrooms in the UK.

loo roll is enough
but who cares?

Spraying droplets? Hose up the bum?! Haha! Tell me you've never used a bumgun without telling me you've never used a bumgun.

I think you're just feeling a bit defensive about your smelly chocolate starfishes ;-)

Apparently girls with the super-long nail extensions wrap bog roll around their hand and use the side of their index finger and edge of their hand. (Edit: this originally quoted somebody who asked about super long nails but the quote has disappeared).

No it doesn’t.

I have a shower bidet, it doesn’t rebound on the seat unless you have a shower pump on giving ultra high pressure.

But even if that was the case, it’s much better for poo droplets to happen on the toilet than it is to happen in the shower, where everything is supposed to be clean and you’re standing in it with your bare feet.

Everyone complaining about shower bidets washes their arse and fanny in the shower which is much worse.

Do you mean “I can only assume you are vegetarian”? Higher fibre diets make cleaner poos.

Not of you've got ibs-d then fibre makes for a very very messy time!

That’s not actually true. I’ve known many veggies/vegans who have chronic diarrhoea and toxic farts. One in particular was known for blowing the back of the (work) toilet out every morning. It’s very healthy in a lot of respects to eat lots of fruit, vegetables and pulses, but let’s not pretend it’s a foolproof route to uneventful digestion.

…and you don’t use your arsehole to eat with or touch things with it after wiping it so pointless to compare the two!

Maybe we can all just agree that a) as long as someone doesn't smell and b) we're not getting intimate with them, how someone cleans themselves is none of our fucking business?

This just sounds like anti-vegan bullshit. The first clue is “I’ve known many veggies/vegans” - how come meat eaters with negative anecdotes always seem to know so many more veggies and vegans than actual vegans do?

I’m vegan and I certainly don’t know enough vegans to know their bowel habits. But none of my immediate family have bowel problems, and have in fact escaped the family Crohns curse.

I know lots of veggies and vegans because a) I was one for 20 years, b) more than half my family is plant based, and c) I run a Woodcraft Folk group and hang out in a lot of left-wing spaces 😆

I’m not an anti-veggie propagandist, far from it. It’s simply not true that a vegetarian or vegan diet means “clean poos” and no digestive problems; in my experience it’s patently untrue, and I don’t think peddling myths helps anyone. There are plenty of actual, valid reasons to promote plant based diets. Better excretory experiences aren’t one of them.

I'm Indian. Bidets are cleaner and leave a refreshing feeling after. No lingering poo. Ew.

I'm baffled

vegetarian diet=plenty of whole grains, fruit and veg=plenty of fibre=soft, malleable poo=likely to make more mess on the way out

poor diet=less fibre=hard, dry poo=less mess on the way out

surely?

Absolute bullshit. Not only are you the veganest ex-vegan (🙄) who ever veganed, but you have a very specific (and rather stereotypical) lifestyle that means you have a huge social circle consisting of vegans.

You sound like the “my dad owns Microsoft” meme. It’s not that important. I said fibre helps make cleaner poos - which it does. There’s no need to be this extreme or insistent about being an expert on the supposed horrors of vegan poos.

You use soap and your hand. We do use toilet paper but finish off in the bidet. Saves a lot of consumption. If for a number 2 only sit facing away from the tap and focus the jet on the interested area, then wash with soap/gel, like you would in the shower. If for a more complete wash sit facing the tap and direct the jet front and back accordingly. We have “intimate” soap which is supposedly more delicate, but I have used shower gel which is what I use in the shower anyway.

do not put plug in, no need to fill with
water, unless washing feet or needing to soak sore bits) then rinse well afterwards.

I disagree with you, so I am obviously a liar who has fabricated my entire life. I am clearly in the service of the Carnivore Propaganda Division, marauding through social media smearing vegans while brandishing a sharpened Peperami 😂

Do you hear yourself? You sound a bit…fragile.

Are you all washing your bums in disabled toilet sinks?

Sensitive baby wipes, nappy sack, dispose of in the household rubbish.