To think loo roll is not enough

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Not the nicest subject in the world -sorry!

I live abroad and bathrooms have bidees (spelling) I don’t use these, but always use wet toilet wipes which are said to be easily disposable here and not harmful to the environment
Since doing this it makes me think how normal loo roll paper is pretty gross and just can’t possibly get you properly clean 😬

Me too.

I remember going to a place in the 60s that had a bidet and my mother saying, "Oh look it's even got a foot bath"

How do you actually use a bidet ?

I think personal hygiene has become a bit of a purity spiral, and it’s not mentally healthy to focus on it to the extent that some people do. Yes, we should wash regularly and be mindful of not being smelly - but most people can achieve that without showering multiple times a day, excoriating their intimate areas with harsh soap, using additional chemicals after every toilet trip and washing before and after sex. Our bodies are not sterile. They are not supposed to be sterile. We don’t live in a sterile world. The skin is not designed to be constantly assaulted with soaps, exfoliaters, perfumes and complex chemicals.

If the current trend towards obsessive germ-phobia continues, I reckon people will be having themselves laminated by 2050 😆

But your hands need to be washed, as you are handling food, touching surfaces etc.
You don’t handle anything with your bum (unless you have a very special skill)

Well, that’s how you’ll find out that what I’m saying is true.
By the end of the day, your nether regions smell.
It’s just a biological fact.

I do not enjoy this feeling and I would never get intimate with someone unless I felt freshly washed.

That’s not the point. 💩 is disgusting wherever it is.

Just like a jet wash, except in this case you are spraying poo particles all over the toilet and bathroom.

Basically you sit in it, fill it up with warm water and splash your nether reasons. In Italy you can buy special soap for the purpose. You then dry off your shiny clean bum with your special bum towel!

Washing before sex is just considerate of your partner.

We’ve got a septic tank. If something was to clog it would be solely our problem. It hasn’t been an issue in the 15 years we’ve lived here (and used wipes) so I really can’t anticipate it becoming an issue now. Thanks for the concern!

I use the gel wype stuff its really good. And also good when on period.

Well, that depends on your partner. My DH would think I’d cracked.

How do you ascertain that your potential sex partner has followed the appropriate cleaning process during the day prior to getting jiggly with them?

Yet you’ll happily use bleached toilet paper?

Washing before sex is just considerate of your partner.

'Excuse me darling, I must just disappear to throughly sanitise every orifice, using a variety of chemical products....'

Fifteen minutes later...

'Now where were we?'

I dont recall mentioning what I use to wipe my arse 😂

I use this too, and another I can't recall the name of.

I really object to people who think any wipes are "flushable". They're not. I've worked in facilities management in hospitals and 90% of the pipe blockages are from wet wipes and in a hospital these blockages cause mayhem.

I also object to the manufacturing process of them. All that electricity etc to make them is so unnecessary.

Absolutely, anyone who doesn’t freshen up is fucking rank. Genitals get smelly, sweaty, piss and poo have literally come out of the area. It only takes a minute.

Sometimes I wonder how the human race made it this far

Nothing!

Well maybe just be grateful you don't understand why not everyone can use them.

Personally I don't have the able bodiness required to use a bidet, a bum gun or jug. Having had a stroke & being left disabled the couple of wipes I use after a poo & using toilet paper first (just to make sure I'm properly clean) is the least of my worries really, though I am going to try the moisturiser on TP. I have plenty I don't use.

my preference is to shower after I poo, but another thing the stroke has affected is my body's willingness to go first thing in the morning (as I used to reliably)

At last! Someone else with common sense!!
I won’t have sex with my husband unless I’ve had a shower.
And that’s usually just before.
I can’t relax otherwise. And it doesn’t affect my “normal responses.”

If you don't have a bidet you can use an old water bottle or cup next to the loo and give yourself a quick wash.
I find it easy and hygienic. I don't tend to ask people about how they clean their bum holes, but I wonder why it's seen as bidet or plain paper only, when you can easily have a quick wash without a bidet.

Well, I don't know about you, but my arm is near my face, other oeopke, other surfaces a LOT more than my bum is !!

That's what I do.