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To wonder what US Trump voters think now

527 replies

Indiependant · 04/01/2026 08:55

Their country's reputation trashed. The man they voted for heavily implicated in the Epstein scandal. Contempt shown to them abroad.
About to completely shift Ukraine. Enabling Netanyahu to commit mass murder of children with their tax dollars. No roaring economy. The environment fucked probbaky beyond saving due to their inaction.
What, in all honesty, do the 75 million who have caused this catastrophe think?

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RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 10:28

Tiswa · 07/01/2026 09:17

@RingoJuice why should we care about things that affect the American tax payers - scandals like this happen all over the world dear god we had a MP expenses scandal.

none of that excuses trying to take what isn’t yours. The rest of the world doesn’t want to be American or have the head space to worry about internal politics as long as they remain internal

the problem is they don’t do they they don’t remain just a US problem do they

and it isn’t that others aren sympathetic it just everyone has their own issues

that reply wasn’t about Greenland fyi

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 10:39

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 10:04

There has been rampant, massive fraud wherever they look.

Funny how there's apparently none in red states. And so much in states that didn't vote for Trump. So very odd.

You don't take things away before you find something. We don't jail an entire town because one person commits a crime. We don't pull every car off the road because there's a car accident. We don't take every gun away because one person uses one to commit murder.

This isn't how funding or the law works. You can't arbitrarily and capriciously withdraw funding from innocent people because you think it's possible there might be fraud somewhere.

If you don't recognise how much taxpayer money has been spaffed up the wall in this administration on absolutely ridiculous things like tarting up Trump's bribe jet and changing the name of the Department of Defence, just for a start, you can't be applying much thought. And you know each ice raid costs, on average, around $70,000 (according to Wharton, Trump's alma mater) right? You might enjoy the nasty spectacle, but it's not saving anyone money.

And your empathy is for Elon Musk? The richest man in the world who is gleefully killing the world's poorest children? Seriously, you can love your fucking orange baboon turd of a president, but if deep down you don't recognise that this is indefensible, you are without humanity. You need help.

And that, folks, is your Trump voter.

*And I'm an American taxpayer.

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I agree they should expand the hold to red states, because the fraud is rampant there too.

But we are not going to endlessly throw money to state governments that refuse to perform their due diligence (or worse, actually benefit from the fraud via campaign donations).

It would be better to stop disbursing these funds on a federal level, since (blue AND red) states are utterly incapable of policing themselves

StandFirm · 07/01/2026 10:53

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 10:39

I agree they should expand the hold to red states, because the fraud is rampant there too.

But we are not going to endlessly throw money to state governments that refuse to perform their due diligence (or worse, actually benefit from the fraud via campaign donations).

It would be better to stop disbursing these funds on a federal level, since (blue AND red) states are utterly incapable of policing themselves

How do you in the immediate future propose to help families in urgent need of services so that they can go to work and earn money to feed their families?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2026 10:59

ChristmasHug · 04/01/2026 10:24

Venezuela used to have the highest GDP per capita in the world, before corruption and bad planning. I know a British teacher there and there is some hope amongst the population that this will help them - not that trump won't have his greedy fingers in the pies but that they'll see more of it than they correctly do.

And I'd imagine trump voters only care about MAGA and this will help.

Interested to see how the stock markets react tomorrow.

We have a Venezuelan neighbour who in the past has been dreadfully worried about her elderly parents - the currency in freefall and many foods so appallingly expensive.

I don’t see her often to speak to, but will certainly ask how she feels next time. I’m sure she’ll be very glad about the removal of brutal dictator Maduro - how she’s going to feel about Trump’s intervention is another matter…

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 11:17

StandFirm · 07/01/2026 10:53

How do you in the immediate future propose to help families in urgent need of services so that they can go to work and earn money to feed their families?

Unfortunately needy families will get hurt. But they shouldn’t blame the federal government, but the scammers that were blatantly ripping off the government.

DOJ is saying that more than half of Medicaid funding in Minnesota is fraudulent: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-12-18/medicaid-18-billion-claims-minnesota-programs-may-be-fraudulent-official-says

Sorry, but any program where half the money ends up in the pockets of scammers should be ended. The mistake is that this should be extended nationwide

A sign is shown as first Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph H. Thompson, not seen, delivers remarks during a news conference at the U.S. Attorney's Office inside the United States Courthouse on Thursday, Dec. 18, 2025, in Minneapolis. (Kerem Yücel/Minnesot...

About half of Medicaid's $18 billion in claims paid to Minnesota programs may be fraudulent, official says

First Assistant U.S. Atty. Joe Thompson said the scale of fraud in Minnesota outpaces that of other states and puts services at risk for people who really need them.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-12-18/medicaid-18-billion-claims-minnesota-programs-may-be-fraudulent-official-says

SabrinaThwaite · 07/01/2026 11:21

US President Donald Trump has said Venezuela "will be turning over" up to 50 million barrels of oil - worth about $2.8bn (£2.1bn) - to the US, after a military operation to remove President Nicolás Maduro from power.

The oil will be sold at its market price, Trump posted on social media, adding he would control the money raised and use it to benefit the people of Venezuela and the US.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4grxzxjjd8o

I wonder what the split will be?

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 11:23

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 10:39

I agree they should expand the hold to red states, because the fraud is rampant there too.

But we are not going to endlessly throw money to state governments that refuse to perform their due diligence (or worse, actually benefit from the fraud via campaign donations).

It would be better to stop disbursing these funds on a federal level, since (blue AND red) states are utterly incapable of policing themselves

I think you don't seem to understand how either taxation or the US system of government or representation works.

Iceshine · 07/01/2026 11:27

I wonder what the stamer voters think now.

Abhannmor · 07/01/2026 11:43

Labour and Conservative politicians need to stop this Special Relationship bollocks. The USA only has one Special Relationship and it is with Israel.
As for Nigel ....he is just a microbe in Trumps rectum.

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 11:46

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 11:23

I think you don't seem to understand how either taxation or the US system of government or representation works.

These were federal funds.

StandFirm · 07/01/2026 11:50

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 11:17

Unfortunately needy families will get hurt. But they shouldn’t blame the federal government, but the scammers that were blatantly ripping off the government.

DOJ is saying that more than half of Medicaid funding in Minnesota is fraudulent: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-12-18/medicaid-18-billion-claims-minnesota-programs-may-be-fraudulent-official-says

Sorry, but any program where half the money ends up in the pockets of scammers should be ended. The mistake is that this should be extended nationwide

Why ended and not improved? If there are issues with the way the programmes are run, address them rather than bin the entire principle. Shouldn't it have been the professed aim of DOGE (improving government efficiency rather than acting like a demented slasher in a horror flick)?

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:04

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 11:46

These were federal funds.

And guess which states the biggest contributions to federal funds come from...

YankTank · 07/01/2026 12:07

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:04

And guess which states the biggest contributions to federal funds come from...

Thats Me I Know GIF by Jackie James

Ooh ooh ooh! I know! Pick me, Miss!

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 12:10

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:04

And guess which states the biggest contributions to federal funds come from...

Yes I understand that. But that doesn’t mean these funds can be continually lost to scammers, with zero accountability?

And then have the cheek to say that they need more (because it’s not going to where it needs to go … )

DdraigGoch · 07/01/2026 12:20

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 11:17

Unfortunately needy families will get hurt. But they shouldn’t blame the federal government, but the scammers that were blatantly ripping off the government.

DOJ is saying that more than half of Medicaid funding in Minnesota is fraudulent: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-12-18/medicaid-18-billion-claims-minnesota-programs-may-be-fraudulent-official-says

Sorry, but any program where half the money ends up in the pockets of scammers should be ended. The mistake is that this should be extended nationwide

Given how politicised the DoJ has become, I'm going to take anything it says with more salt than Trump's arteries.

DdraigGoch · 07/01/2026 12:22

SabrinaThwaite · 07/01/2026 11:21

US President Donald Trump has said Venezuela "will be turning over" up to 50 million barrels of oil - worth about $2.8bn (£2.1bn) - to the US, after a military operation to remove President Nicolás Maduro from power.

The oil will be sold at its market price, Trump posted on social media, adding he would control the money raised and use it to benefit the people of Venezuela and the US.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4grxzxjjd8o

I wonder what the split will be?

The split will be 0:0. The money will go straight into the pockets of Trump and his fellow oligarchs.

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:22

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 12:10

Yes I understand that. But that doesn’t mean these funds can be continually lost to scammers, with zero accountability?

And then have the cheek to say that they need more (because it’s not going to where it needs to go … )

But it does mean the funds can be lost to changing the name of the DoF to the DoW ($2 billion), DOGE cuts (up to $135 billion), ice deportations (estimated at $315 billion), and refurbishing Trump's grift jet (nearly $1 billion), just to name a few instances of this government's wasteful spending?

I'm afraid the rot in you has blinded you to reason.

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:22

DdraigGoch · 07/01/2026 12:20

Given how politicised the DoJ has become, I'm going to take anything it says with more salt than Trump's arteries.

Evidence seems to be something they have no use for.

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 12:36

StandFirm · 07/01/2026 11:50

Why ended and not improved? If there are issues with the way the programmes are run, address them rather than bin the entire principle. Shouldn't it have been the professed aim of DOGE (improving government efficiency rather than acting like a demented slasher in a horror flick)?

Because they’d actually had warnings and whistleblowers come out prior in Minnesota, and nothing was done. How long do you just allow it to continue? The Somali daycare scam was brought to attention as early as 2014.

It was mentioned the fraud could have amounted to 100 million dollars even then (let alone now). Nothing was done about it

RingoJuice · 07/01/2026 12:41

user233675892 · 07/01/2026 12:22

But it does mean the funds can be lost to changing the name of the DoF to the DoW ($2 billion), DOGE cuts (up to $135 billion), ice deportations (estimated at $315 billion), and refurbishing Trump's grift jet (nearly $1 billion), just to name a few instances of this government's wasteful spending?

I'm afraid the rot in you has blinded you to reason.

Well I totally 1000% support the deportation measures. Worth it.

But yeah pls go challenge some of the other stuff, you won’t find me complaining if you do

Muffinme · 07/01/2026 13:10

Indiependant · 04/01/2026 11:00

Complete DRIVEL. Just because the regime removed was vile doesnt justify anything at all done in response. America is a disgrace, the American people who voted in this appalling adjudicated rapist liar and friend of a mass paedophile deserve the disdain of the world, international isolation and I hope their economy collapses.

I agree, but like others said, I don’t think MAGAs care about the rest of the world or what they think. I have a cousin married to a staunch Trump voter and they live in Florida. They don’t think the rest of the world is necessary to their success and they don’t care what the rest of the world thinks. E.g. they don’t think Americans should be going abroad for tourism, they think Americans should only be spending money in the USA not elsewhere. They want domestic tourism and not foreign visitors. My cousin’s wife hangs on every word Trump says and believes everything he says

Tiswa · 07/01/2026 13:24

How do you feel about Greenland though @RingoJuice and all the tariffs and the Canada becoming a state stuff.

You know the bits that affect the rest of the world and how the rest of the world views the US.

The whole idea of a Presidency wasn’t that one man had all the power and could make the decisions it was that the power was with the people for the people. That they had a say in who ran the country and were not simply given a leader by his birthright.

A beautiful notion (even if the people didn’t mean the people and still doesn’t really given all but one of those who have been President are white men.

Doesnt it bother you that the principles for which America does see itself as being great for are being eroded - certainly in the eyes of the rest of the world?

The US is currently the high school jock whose days of being the one everyone admired and wanted to be or be with have long since gone but they are still wearing their letter(man) jacket with not only pride but a belief that everyone wants to wear it as well

Muffinme · 07/01/2026 13:51

Trump is using his presidential position to personally enrich himself and his family as much as he can and while he has the absolute immunity from criminal prosecution that the presidency provides him. His oil company buddies will profit hugely from Venezuelan oil and I’m sure they’re very grateful to him. I’m sure many of his inner circle are profiting from their loyalty too. The American voters have made their choice and I’ll doubt they’ll ever get so much as a crumb from Trump’s leadership table filtering down to them. but as they seem happy let’s leave them to it. It won’t be the first time a country has found itself in this position and it won’t be the last. The rest of the world just needs to adjust as necessary to be able to survive and thrive without the USA and focus on other alliances, resilience and self sufficiency. There’s 3 more years of this to go… at the very least…

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 14:07

Iceshine · 07/01/2026 11:27

I wonder what the stamer voters think now.

Who's 'stamer'?

Iceshine · 07/01/2026 14:23

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 14:07

Who's 'stamer'?

Starmer.
Stupid autocorrect even my phone dont like him.

But im sure you knew who I was on about 🙂.