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To be at my wits end with 15 year old dd and latest escapade

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Flyingpigsleigh · 01/01/2026 02:28

She wa allowed out tonight to go to friends house. We are strict with her as every single time she gets the chance she gets blackout drunk and endangers herself. It’s been a cycle for the past year. She goes out and gets so drunk she passes out. We ground her. She’s told she can gradually work up to going out again under certain conditions, eg keeps in touch, keeps her location on, keeps us informed of movements. She absolutely swore blind she was just going to a friends house and I dropped her off there at 8. All okay and she kept in touch and location showed her there. DH went to pick her up at 1230. Suddenly her location started moving from high street near her friends house and it was clear she was in a car. DH had to intercept her by chasing after the car using her location. She’d been picked up by nice people thankfully - a mum dad and daughter who sw her wandering barefoot down the street!!! Didn’t get much sense out of her but she said she fell out with friends.

Thus is the 4th time strangers have intervened and the 2nd time she’s got in a car with strangers. I feel physically sick at how this could have turned out tonight. She absolutely promised she was just going to be at her friends house. Her friend is quite sensible so I thought she would be okay.

it’s her 16th birthday next month and she is going to go crazy if I say she can’t go out but every single time we life restrictions she does this.

She’s seen a counsellor but tbh I think she just told him what she thought she should say and he thought so too.

I don’t know what to do.

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themerchentofvenus · 01/01/2026 08:14

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EnidSpyton · 01/01/2026 08:20

I agree with the posters talking about anxiety and alcohol as being a crutch to cope. I wouldn’t be surprised if neurodiversity were a factor in your daughter’s behaviour. Getting blackout drunk regularly when you are otherwise a very focused and high achieving person is evidence of distress and a desire for escape. Treating this as just bad behaviour or teenage rebellion or experimentation or whatever would be a mistake. You need to find out what is driving the behaviour.

As a teacher I would strongly recommend you contact school and tell them what is going on. They should have an in school counsellor your daughter can access and if you think neurodiversity could be a possibility (please remember girls are expert maskers - so many girls and women struggle to get a diagnosis with Autism and ADHD because girls are so much more adept than neurodiverse boys at learning to behave appropriately in social settings) then the school SENCo can provide support. Often teenage girls at this particular age don’t want to speak to parents but they will speak to another trusted adult - if there is a teacher she is close to at school, she may be willing to discuss what’s going on with them, so you could also encourage the school to facilitate a discussion with her. Parents ask me to do this all the time (I mainly teach sixth form) and often I can gently tease out what’s really going on because I’m a lot easier to admit things to than mum and/or dad.

Your daughter is still very young and intervening now in the right way can nip this in the bud before it becomes a full blown addiction. Go gently with her, and focus on support rather than punishment as you navigate through this with her. When it comes to her 16th birthday, I would explain to her that you are worried about what happens when she drinks as she can’t keep herself safe. The party has to be at home where you limit access to alcohol - one glass of something only - and she won’t be going out until you’ve got this under control because of the risks she places herself in when she’s blackout drunk. Make it about the danger she could be in rather than her behaviour.

ThisTaupeZebra · 01/01/2026 08:20

pickywatermelon · 01/01/2026 03:29

I was also high achiever, drinking to blackout as a teen. Really didn’t manage drinking at university well. Now sober.

As you mention “behaving” I wonder whether worth exploring if alcohol is just not for her.

Can she stop once she starts or does it feel inevitable to continue drinking? Does she explicitly know that other people are not blacking out? That blacking out and memory loss is unusual and not representative of “normal” social drinking? Does she know some people process alcohol differently, and that for some alcohol isn’t a sensible choice at all?

Appreciate may be over-interpreting yet I think of the teen I was, and wish to a degree someone had intervened - it took me many bad incidents to get to sober - which for me now is a great place to be

This is an excellent post OP. I have many friends who have followed a very similar trajectory and only began to get better when this behaviour was treated like the substance misuse issue it is, rather than 'teenagers acting up'.

FWIW, in addition to the late life diagnosis of ADHD a few of them have, quite a lot are also gay and bisexual women too. It may be a generational thing (I really hope younger people today have an easier time of it), but don't be surprised if a confused reaction to sexual orientation might be at least a root of this too.

LlynTegid · 01/01/2026 08:23

Her response to not going out on her 16th birthday may be the easier thing to deal with.

Sorry to read that you are going through this and you have every reason to be concerned.

Aplstrudl · 01/01/2026 08:34

Where does she get the alcohol from?

nolongersurprised · 01/01/2026 08:37

I have 3 teen DDs although the two older ones are 19 and 18 now. They have been to parties where they drink, but this seems like a lot of alcohol comparatively young.

Are her 15/16 year old friends also drinking regularly when out? Who is buying it for them? If she wanders off whilst very drunk she simply can’t go to parties where there is alcohol. I agree with looking for a an underlying reason for excessive alcohol intake but this is extremely unsafe behaviour from her. Have you posted about this before?

HollyhockDays · 01/01/2026 08:41

Why is she drinking so much? I drank to give me confidence and make me outgoing. She’s drinking for a reason and you need to get to the bottom of that.

ScrambledEggs12 · 01/01/2026 08:41

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I 'got myself raped' on several occasions between 16 and 18, and also once when much older during a mental health crisis.

I hated myself at the time, still do to an extent. It's something I'm working on still in my 40s.

At that age the most helpful thing would have been knowing that someone cared about me. My parents didn't help the situation and while well meaning, were a huge factor behind my mental health issues. Not saying this is the case with the OP.

On the up side, I do now recognise that while I was the one who put myself in some very risky situations, it was NOT me who 'got myself raped'. It was the men who did that.

If I could see 16 year old me, I would hug myself and say I understood and that things will get better.

Bestfootforward11 · 01/01/2026 08:43

This sounds so hard. My DD is 12 so I have the teenage years ahead of me…
One thing I wondered is that you said your DD’s a high achiever at school and I wonder if she might be under a lot of pressure either from herself or others? It does sound like there’s something going on internally fo her although I don’t know what.

Tpu · 01/01/2026 08:47

Bobblehatwobbles · 01/01/2026 03:14

I used to do all that kind of stuff as a teenager and it continues to amaze me how I didn’t get into serious trouble doing it! My parents never knew mind you because I was very good at lying (and no GPS/smartphones back then).

Firstly, don’t take her to the GP or A&E that’s insane. Sounds to me like she needs a new therapist and being grounded each time is perfectly reasonable as punishment.

If you can, approach her college or school - lots of times they’re able to support with mentoring or alike? A joined up approach is probably needed where you and your DH aren’t on your own being ‘the bad guys’.

Behaviourist approaches to getting her to stop risk taking won’t sort this long term - does she have hobbies? What is her social life like? Does she have common interests with you that you can dive into together? Have you looked at her self esteem and why she has the need to ‘escape’ and socialise in this way?

Lastly, if you’re in England you could always reach out to Social Care. The Early Help service (if you have one in your area) is great for supporting families with such things.

But why were you doing it? In retrospect what was that all about, what was the motivation for you, and why did you choose to stop?

piscofrisco · 01/01/2026 08:48

This was my DD. We had two years of this and it was awful. Unfortunately she ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time as part of this behaviour and was badly attacked, the effects of which were seismic all round.
I ended up putting her in actual lock down at one point. She just couldn’t be trusted to go out sensibly. She had counselling both privately and through CAMHs. She was eventually diagnosed with inattentive ADD-one of the traits of this is seeking dopamine and that’s certainly what she was doing in parts.
the stress on everyone was immeasurable so you have my sympathies. But I would urge you to keep some strong restrictions on where she is and with who in place for now.
Our DD is now doing great. She calmed down a lot during sixth form (we moved her school and she got a slightly more sensible set of friends), she had her counselling and started meds, and gradually got better. She went to uni in September, something that was unthinkable in terms of her safety just three years ago) and if anything is a bit dull so far in terms of her partying, often home by 1am.
she says now she can’t believe how she behaved (and she does feel a lot of guilt over it which is it’s own problem for her mental health wise).

I hope you are ok op. It’s easy to feel like you and your parenting are the issue and people with less troublesome teens judge. Some kids just do this and it’s not necessarily your fault and as I said the strain it puts on you as parents is not to be underestimated.

Needlenardlenoo · 01/01/2026 08:53

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 01/01/2026 03:28

I’m sorry to say that getting blackout drunk whenever I had the chance was
my modus operandi at that age too. I was extremely anxious and always had been, so
when I discovered booze it felt like a magic cure. For the first time in my life I didn’t feel anxious!

But of course, you build your tolerance. I put myself in some very dangerous positions and would drink anytime, anywhere. If I had sourced a bottle of vodka it was going in my tea mug to drink while I did my homework. Of course I was hiding it from everyone, but my parents weren’t stupid and did try to make it more difficult for me. But they were floundering in the dark.

What was weird was that by 17 I was drinking go blackout stage four or five times a week, but I got good A Levels, went to uni and got a good degree and masters. It was like I was two people: daytime
LambriniBob seemed to be doing okay, but nighttime LambriniBob was a pissed-up mess.

By 23 it was clear I had a problem and after splitting from a long-term partner (who was an enabler as he was a massive pisshead too) it all came to a head. I saw my GP and went to some AA meetings. My GP put me on anti anxiety meds and I had talking therapy, both of which were a revelation.

I have drunk since (I am in my early 40s) but only ever socially and never to the extent I was for those seven or eight years. I was also diagnosed with AuDHD at 35 which explained a lot.

I would bet a pound to a penny that your daughter is highly strung, highly anxious and maybe neurodiverse. She’s still so young, you can nip this in the bud. Get her to the GP, get her some CBT rather than a counsellor (CBT really helped me with my drinking) and if she is anxious get her on something to help with that. I know she’s 15 and it won’t necessarily be easy to get her there, but in your shoes I’d be dragging her, kicking and screaming if necessary. Good luck.

I think this is good advice OP.

I've got a highly strung although younger DD (she's also AuDHD actually).

People do drink to self-medicate sometimes. I think the AA website may help you.

Another possibility is she lacks the body chemistry to process alcohol safely. You need to make two different enzymes. Worth researching that just in case. This happened to a friend of mine at university. He'd not drunk growing up (this was in another country with stricter drinking laws). One glass of champagne at his prom and he ended up in hospital!

And obviously your DD can't go out out for her 16th. Can you host a party at home or in a wine bar or something. You and DH need to be there. Or possibly enlist an older sibling as minder?

NewUserName2244 · 01/01/2026 08:58

You’ve had some really good advice about the drinking here.

In terms of her 16th, I would still try really hard to make it memorable for her - adding resentment to an already difficult situation won’t help.

There are lots of really fun adult experiences which preclude drinking by their nature and I’d try to do one of those followed by a sleepover so that you still have control. Theme park, spa day, theatre comedy night, experience thing in London, massage or facial or something.

And I would explicitly tell the parents of the friends who she invites no alcohol, explain to them what has been going on, and ask them to check bags.

Summergarden · 01/01/2026 09:02

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/01/2026 04:29

I am wondering if your dd is perhaps neurodivergent? Perhaps undiagnosed? She sounds to be sensory seeking and unaware of her physical and mental health needs.

Unfortunately all you can do right now is have cast iron boundaries. I know what a worry it is. My 17 yo dd is vulnerable for different reasons (and possibly neurodivergent, the ASD assessments are booked) and dh and I have to parent very differently to the average teen parent. Every time I get rudeness or the door slammed in my face, I take her phone for an hour. She tried to walk out of the house a couple of months ago. It was dark and very cold and I had to physically restrain her. She needed, even subconsciously wanted, me to do this because she needed me to help her regulate. She also has to get permission to do stuff and is grounded sometimes, that regulates her.

Dd is naturally quite independent in her thinking even if she depends on me so much. And if we grounded her almost all of the time, this would have the opposite effect. We go for better the boundaries to get her being nicer and more cooperative with the things she needs to do.

So I wonder if what is missing with your dd is the carrot because you seem to be giving the stick a lot then as soon as she is allowed to do something, she goes wild so she possibly needs baby step carrots rather than being allowed out all in one go. Take the example of going shopping with her friends in the afternoon to a local shopping centre then perhaps back to her friend’s house for tea and picked up at 6 or 7 latest. ‘Ok sweetheart, we are going to let you do x. And we want you back at y place at z time sober and to be honest and open about where you have been and what you have done. This is a test and depending on how well you do will depend on whether you will be able to do this again. Because we need to be able to see that you can keep yourself safe. So please take the time between now and x day when you go out to think about how you can keep yourself safe.’ Then you remind your dd. Then you thank her for being in the right place at the right time (if she manages it). Then you build on it. Slowly. So you do that again. Then next time she gets to go to the local city, maybe has lunch out then comes back at a set time etc. Then when you think she’s trustworthy, a sleepover.

If she doesn’t succeed, heavy guns of disappointment won’t work. Very much do this from a place of love. You have 1-2 years to get this right. As for feedback to her, you can be a bit sad that things didn’t go to plan. You can see that she wasn’t quite ready for that. And you can talk about doing things differently another time. And maybe when she’s sobered up and the dust has settled, you can ask her if she has any ideas how to manage this one. She may not though. And if there is failure, you let her earn something perhaps a little more manageable next time. And hopefully if you can all get the balance right, she will succeed.

Dd does chores and earns stuff. This is important to move her forward and to reduce the controlling behaviour... she has always tried to control me from age 4, perhaps younger. So for example she’s away and now asleep in a hotel with a friend having been to a rave (dd is 17 and year 13). For that she had to do a bunch of things related to her specialist needs to move her on. Ongoing we’ve instigated things like studying 3 hours at a weekend and 1 hour in the evening Monday-Thurs, stacking the dishwasher and tidying the kitchen a few times a week, emptying her bin twice a week. The studying is new and we are in the process of cracking it btw. She needs to do this get very high grades for the course she really wants to do but isn’t capable yet of instilling the self discipline.

This all perhaps sounds a bit controlling to most. But absolutely necessary if dd is going to be able to look after herself, which she isn’t capable of doing right now. And we are doing this with specialist advice btw.

We are perhaps 18 months / 2 years or so ahead of you and dd is coming up 18 and also fixed on the idea she will move out at 18 on the dot. You don’t have long. And these are the years, where kids really start to go off the rails if not given boundaries. And your dd needs more boundaries, not fewer because she is vulnerable. My dd’s lovely friend now is pretty ill, waif thin, pregnant, engaged and living with a violent / controlling drug user. He loves her and in essence he is a nice person. But the baggage…

You and your dh need to be seamless in this. Right now you’re fire fighting. This is how I am approaching it with dd. Lots and lots and lots of love and ‘love bombing’, messages with kisses and hearts about how much dd is loved. Encouraging dd to spend family time (this doesn’t happen much). Drip feeding all of the stuff dd needs to learn about life. Eg

  • several boy discussions on various themes eg being first choice rather than an option, careful of being used for sex, a lot of small conversations about how some boys/ men are because I could see some big red flags from a lad, who was love bombing her but she still months later is struggling to see what he’s really like… living examples from what happened with her friends, people we know etc. And we have dd’s friend over and it’s really useful to talk to her about stuff in front of dd
  • friendships and who she spends time with being people, who should have her back because she is vulnerable even if she doesn’t feel that way,
  • condoms. A lot of teens think it’s not cool to use them btw…
  • about how dd gets to decide the level of freedom she has based on how much she can participate in the stuff she needs to be doing to move her forward
  • loving and respecting herself etc

I write notes and scripts in my phone to deliver them to dd. And ask dh to deliver some as well. But it’s mainly me as I have the time, the guts to do it when dh just wants an easy life, and the attention to detail.

Edited

You should add the word ‘Super’ at the start of your username. So much useful and practical advice here for parenting teens who may need extra support, I’m saving your post for future reference.

Nextweektoo · 01/01/2026 09:02

I would look at professional intervention at this point. Some kind of youth worker or drugs and alcohol support from your LA. It sounds incredibly dangerous.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/01/2026 09:02

suburberphobe · 01/01/2026 02:50

wandering barefoot down the street!!! It's fucking January!

every single time she gets the chance she gets blackout drunk

This is more serious than you and your husband running around can fix.

15 years old?

I'd be taking her to the GP, or A&E. She needs serious intervention.

Sorry you're going through this OP. Kids can be a nightmare but you and her dad have to seriously step up.

Before you know it she'll be forced into prostitution.

I hope others will be by to give serious help with places you can access help. I don't live in UK. Maybe women's Aid to help you guide the way to it.

As a mum I'm worried for her.

That counsellor sounds utterly crap. He should have signposted it to child services, or whatever it's called in UK.

Prostitution ? Get a grip.

Tiedbutchorestodo · 01/01/2026 09:04

I’m not sure any telling her or grounding will really change things although obviously it’s a necessary thing to do - I was similar at her age (although thankfully with good friends / boyfriends who never let me get into dangerous situations but it was luck not judgement).

I was also a high achiever, I think it was a self esteem thing as others have said plus I wouldn’t be surprised if I have ADHD (DD does).

I grew out of it by end of uni / around time of getting a job and although I do drink now it’s never to drunk stage.

counselling might have been the only thing that would have helped with a decent counsellor

Needlenardlenoo · 01/01/2026 09:09

I am also saving @Mummyoflittledragon's fantastic post!

RubyBirdy · 01/01/2026 09:10

I had a problem with getting blackout drunk from the age of 14, I put myself in some very dangerous situations. I really struggled socially throughout school and it took all my energy to try and fit in. I also was a high achiever at school and threw it all away after a breakdown at 17. Moved away and got in with the punk scene where everyone was completely nihilistic. Later diagnosed with auDHD. Managed to completely rebuild my life in my late 20s. I would find a better therapist and offer love and support not just punishment. Tell your daughter you love her and care for her and want to understand what is making her feel she needs to get so drunk. Why does she like the feeling, is it escapism? Explain the dangers. Tell her you don’t want anything to happen to her calmly and with care, not anger. Arrange things she loves to do where she can’t drink. My parents had no time for my spiral as I have a disabled sister and feeling like I just had to be okay all the time because they had no time for me and that I came secondary (understandably as an adult) made me spiral more. She needs to feel completely safe and supported with you and at home so she can talk to you.

Meggy123 · 01/01/2026 09:11

Are you sure it's not her friends that are the problem? Leaving her in that state and not calling for help seems odd. Do you know them well? Is she out with who she says she is with? Can you host her 16th birthday and have a few friends over. That way you are supporting her and can maybe work out the dynamics of the friendship group and see what's going on. Are you sure' the friends' are are not spiking drinks and buying for her. If she only drinks when she goes out it could be the company she's keeping that's the problem not that she's an alcoholic

Needlenardlenoo · 01/01/2026 09:11

I mean teens can and do grow out of this but the risk is something life altering happens while they do isn't it?

I must say I'm not impressed with the "friends" or their parents.

whattheysay · 01/01/2026 09:12

suburberphobe · 01/01/2026 02:50

wandering barefoot down the street!!! It's fucking January!

every single time she gets the chance she gets blackout drunk

This is more serious than you and your husband running around can fix.

15 years old?

I'd be taking her to the GP, or A&E. She needs serious intervention.

Sorry you're going through this OP. Kids can be a nightmare but you and her dad have to seriously step up.

Before you know it she'll be forced into prostitution.

I hope others will be by to give serious help with places you can access help. I don't live in UK. Maybe women's Aid to help you guide the way to it.

As a mum I'm worried for her.

That counsellor sounds utterly crap. He should have signposted it to child services, or whatever it's called in UK.

A&E? Women’s Aid? What do you think they’ll do with a drunk 15 year old ?
The counsellor can’t do much if the client isn’t engaging and telling the truth, but you think he should have made a referral to social services?!

Leopardspota · 01/01/2026 09:12

suburberphobe · 01/01/2026 03:35

Well, I am sad that UK services like for a child walking around barefoot in January are so bad that other posters are saying you cannot take her to A&E.

I can phone for a doctor's appointment here and get one next day or later in the week.

What would an and e do? It’s neither an accident nor an emergency.

We can also get GP appointments in most places (I’ve never failed to get one the same day!)

It would be a good idea to speak to school,
they may be able to help with a CAMHs referral.

Id definitely look into anxiety and CBT approaches privately if you have the means.

Needlenardlenoo · 01/01/2026 09:15

Yes the counsellor should have made a safeguarding referral. Counsellors always tell you they'll do that if the situation merits it (at least, decent ones).

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