Labour Voters. Honest question

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I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

@DenizenOfAisleOfShameyou got that Brown nonsense posted again lucky you ;

That graph is entirely relevant in the face of the continual lies about Labour governments and the economy. I realise you find it highly inconvenient.

care to elaborate? I’ve attached links, including from Labour itself.

You’ll need to update to current Labour at some point, I realise you’ll find that highly inconvenient. So do they.

I’m interested too. Any proof from pp

You’ve provided two links on your most obscure points. One of which is to a local council website. Where are the rest?

Sure, which points would you like clarification on?

Who is a Tory?

Pardon?

More toys leaving the pram now?

“Give me one example of someone who’s not a benefit scrounger doing better under Labour”
”here’s two…”
”those don’t count”

Yeh I got you. Not a serious poster. Reform supporter? Figures

You haven’t answered, who is better off?

The examples count, someone who thinks inflation is lower under Labour and someone who has a feeling they’re better off. These are the types of people who aren’t on benefits I’d imagine still support Labour. Makes total sense.

Reform are economically delusionary. Happy to clarify that. You cannot have your cake and eat it.

The first Gulf war started in August 1996 when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. I had a friend who lived there in hiding while it was on, and military friends who did the mine clearance afterwards.

While we are all arguing about who is a Tory, I will declare that I prefer governments whose primary goal is to grow the economy to those that only want to redistribute its spoils. That probably makes me a Tory. It does not make me corrupt or stupid.

Stupid is the word I'd reserve for those who think it is possible to put everyone on the same footing. Some people are simply cleverer at life than me, or you. Or more beautiful, better with money, harder working, more energetic, or gifted with a football. Life is not fair or equal. It never will be.

Can you clarify further by explaining which of their policies are economically ‘delusionary’ ?

The one to exempt all frontline healthcare workers earning less than £50k from income tax is a good one. Lifting the threshold to £20k is another. Pure madness.

All of them.

Interns aren't expressing their own opinion.

The promise to cut taxes by £90bn was a corker but even Farage realised that was, shall we say, a little unrealistic.

I voted Lib Dem’s as a tactical vote but my heart was with Labour

yes I’d vote again for Labour to be in power. Because the Tories are old news - Reform is the alternative and that’s way scarier

Agree! And I wish people who consider themselves left would stop doing it! It's self indulgent grandstanding; do they want a Reform government?!

I absolutely can’t vote Tory or reform. I would probs vote Green although I don’t fully align with all their values, if not then probably labour.

Could you tell me in the short time they’ve been in power - bearing in mind the damage they were left with after 14 years - what they have done so far that you feel so strongly about and were you genuinely expecting them to sort the countries debt and other problems out in a few months? People were already moaning after they’d been in power for 12 weeks 🤣
There are many great things they’ve accomplished so far (listed above) and many more to come, but the one close to my heart is that knife crime and serious violent crime is dramatically down.

It’s bizarre at this stage given Labour’s approval rating that anyone still posts ‘intern’ or whatever stuff on here.

Labour's main, immediate problems are:

• that the UK was already in a very difficult economic spot (only partially self-inflicted) and the incumbent government usually suffers, regardless of fault;

• not only do we have the same old right-wing dominated press, but now right-wing social media platforms that go beyond bias into misinformation;

• they a moderate in an age whether voters are becoming more polarized; and

• Starmer is a poor communicator.

I'd vote for them again, as the least bad viable option. I'd love to see something more transformational and forward thinking in terms of a concrete plan to deliver a more equitable society, but all I see further to the left (and further to the right, too) is ideological fantasy.