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Shingles bell for xmas and Mil

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arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 20:27

My 15 y old son has got the shingles. My Mil says he can't come to hers because she's afraid. I have told her it is not contagieus unless she licks his back (only on back) because she has already had chicken pox as has the rest of the family.

She is convinced that it is contagieus even though I have sent her nhs links "oh, I don't care about the net" because she is adamant she got it from someone in her thirties and it was extremely painful. She does anecdotal evidence rather than scientific ex insists on antibiotics for viral infections so you can't reason with her. She's normally a lovely woman and a wonderful grandma but my son is so sad if he has to stay home for christmas (with me ofcourse). Personally I don't care but since christmas is important for him I'm frustrated with her stance on this. So DH and ds2 will go and ds1 will he heartbroken. To add: he's autistic and very immature, I doubt his brother would be as upset as him for ex.

Am I unreasonable to think that Mil should follow scientific guidance rather than her own "experiences"?

(And why didn't she get the vaccine when she went to have her covid and flu jab if she's so worried about it- they do all three and it's on a big sign in our pharmacy we both go to).

OP posts:
MrsDoomesPattersen · 19/12/2025 22:03

arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 21:25

No, her brother and her Sil. But she would be devastated.

As are you - it’s just one of those things - can’t always go smoothly

DH stay home

Incelebration · 19/12/2025 22:06

ProfessorofCunning · 19/12/2025 20:52

You can’t catch shingles from shingles. You can however catch chickenpox from shingles if you’ve never had it. As we discovered one Christmas when in-laws didn’t tell us FIL had it until we’d been there a day. Spent most of January and half of February at home with one child after the other 🫣
If anyone else is going who hasn’t had chickenpox, they will likely be infected. You can have it twice too if your first go round was mild, as we subsequently discovered with DH!

Jeez, I bet FIL was popular after all that!

Teenagehorrorbag · 19/12/2025 22:06

shiningstar2 · 19/12/2025 20:37

You can get shingles even if you've had chicken pox. I have had the shingles jab to protect me, even though I had chicken pox as a child. I know olde people who have had shingles even though they have had chicken pox and it is extremely painful.

You get shingles once you've had chicken pox, that's how it works! As long as she has had chicken pox she is fine. Plus she's not going to be in contact with his blisters anyway..

My MIL has this same attitude, and won't believe the science!

Agree the whole family should stay home! Have a lovely Christmas without her.

seafoamhair · 19/12/2025 22:06

MotherofPufflings · 19/12/2025 21:59

Yes shingles is serious but you CANNOT CATCH IT FROM SOMEONE WITH SHINGLES OR CHICKENPOX.

You can catch chickenpox from someone with shingles. It may not be common to be reinfected with chickenpox, but some people's immunity does wane over time, especially if they had chickenpox very young.

Once an older person gets chickenpox, it can be very unpleasant, and sometimes it can be serious: pneumonia, sepsis, liver inflammation, etc, even death.

Blinkingbother · 19/12/2025 22:06

Your dh is a dick (sorry!). If one child can’t go, none of you go. It’s as simple as that. At least you know where you & the kids come in order of priorities. What a git. You need to spell this out to him. Leaving one child at home is horrible. You should absolutely all stay. I can’t believe this is a question!!!

BettysRoasties · 19/12/2025 22:07

Who’s autistic dh?

I mean you’d think he would have some compassion to his son.

This is hardly a forgettable age.

Yeah dad left because his
mum who had company, who couldn’t catch it banned me from Christmas. hopefully your ds has more compassion than his father 🤷🏻‍♀️

Pranksters · 19/12/2025 22:07

FastFood · 19/12/2025 21:58

The level of misinformation here is actually quite concerning.

It always is.

As a nurse I’m allowed to go to work with shingles providing the rash is covered.

Piccante · 19/12/2025 22:08

I’ve had chicken pox twice, and shingles twice 🤷🏾‍♀️

Coconutter24 · 19/12/2025 22:08

arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 21:25

No, her brother and her Sil. But she would be devastated.

So MIL being devastated trumps your son being heartbroken?

MrsDoomesPattersen · 19/12/2025 22:09

MotherofPufflings · 19/12/2025 21:59

Yes shingles is serious but you CANNOT CATCH IT FROM SOMEONE WITH SHINGLES OR CHICKENPOX.

Read what I said - she has her own frame or reference and won’t be convinced

seafoamhair · 19/12/2025 22:09

Pranksters · 19/12/2025 22:07

It always is.

As a nurse I’m allowed to go to work with shingles providing the rash is covered.

One would certainly hope your hand hygiene is better than the average 15 year old boy.

CatFaceCatFace · 19/12/2025 22:11

Pranksters · 19/12/2025 22:07

It always is.

As a nurse I’m allowed to go to work with shingles providing the rash is covered.

Good to know, I covered it up and carried on as normal, after reading this thread I was starting to get worried I'd infected half the town by going to work 😅

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 19/12/2025 22:13

arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 21:12

Wow. Thank you all for posting. Will try to answer questions:

Christmas is always at Mil's- family tradition- she loves hosting and we usually bring drinks/desert/chocolate/cheese/salmon etc so it won't be too much work for her. We live 30 minutes away from her so dh and ds2 will not sleep there. Dh is her only son he has to go.

She loves my sons as much as I do and it will be painful for her not having them both at hers. If that wouldn't be the case I would have told dh to stay home. But she's really afraid- she had an awful experience with shingles for weeks with awful pain. She has never been like this when the children are sick with something else. When one had fever she still wanted him to come (I declined) so she's not normally like this.

What annoys me is that she doesn't get that it's not contagious- a doctor in our family even tried to explain it to her to no avail. I think we just have to accept it and I will make it up to ds1 (plenty of chocolate and video games allowed). It's just frustrating when people are stubborn and won't believe scientifical facts.

Dh is her only son he has to go.

and your DH is your DS’s only father.

Your autistic DS who loves Christmas very much and will be incredibly upset to be “left behind”.

have a family Christmas with your DH visit his DM on Boxing Day.

godmum56 · 19/12/2025 22:14

arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 21:46

Thank you. I didn't think about this- I stupidly assumed that since he's fine now it will stay that way. He's rarely ill unlike his brother so I just assumed he'd be fine. Guess we'll wait and see then.. if he's ill then it would be logical for him not to go (but Ofcourse I don't hope for it).

I thought the same. When the rash came out where I could see it, I went to the docs because I knew about getting the antiviral ASAP. It was quite a shock when the pain kicked off.

Calendulaaria · 19/12/2025 22:16

ScaryM0nster · 19/12/2025 20:29

I think I’d be tempted to have a family Christmas at home if she’s not budging.

Same.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 19/12/2025 22:17

Coconutter24 · 19/12/2025 22:08

So MIL being devastated trumps your son being heartbroken?

Right?? Especially when one considers that she is an adult making the choice to exclude DS1 (doesn’t matter if the exclusion is reasonable or not. It is her choice to do this).

whereas OP’s DS1 is an autistic teenager who apparently really loves Christmas and did not choose to be excluded…

Changename12 · 19/12/2025 22:23

Your husband is being very very unreasonable. He should stay at home and you should have a family Christmas together. Your son should be far more important to him than his mother. Christmas should be an exciting time for children.
I say this as a Grandmother. I would not want a child of mine to come to me for any occasion if it meant leaving one of my grandchildren behind.

Summerbay23 · 19/12/2025 22:26

I can’t believe you wouldn’t just have a family Christmas at home! Your MIL won’t be on her own but she needs to understand that you, DH and other DC should be together. I’d be hugely upset if my DH didn’t spend Christmas with myself and our family.

BestZebbie · 19/12/2025 22:28

arcticpandas · 19/12/2025 21:12

Wow. Thank you all for posting. Will try to answer questions:

Christmas is always at Mil's- family tradition- she loves hosting and we usually bring drinks/desert/chocolate/cheese/salmon etc so it won't be too much work for her. We live 30 minutes away from her so dh and ds2 will not sleep there. Dh is her only son he has to go.

She loves my sons as much as I do and it will be painful for her not having them both at hers. If that wouldn't be the case I would have told dh to stay home. But she's really afraid- she had an awful experience with shingles for weeks with awful pain. She has never been like this when the children are sick with something else. When one had fever she still wanted him to come (I declined) so she's not normally like this.

What annoys me is that she doesn't get that it's not contagious- a doctor in our family even tried to explain it to her to no avail. I think we just have to accept it and I will make it up to ds1 (plenty of chocolate and video games allowed). It's just frustrating when people are stubborn and won't believe scientifical facts.

MIL should put it all in the freezer until the week after! You have family Christmas and good long Zoom call with her on the 25th, then have bonus MIL Christmas asap once everyone is healthy.

Sassylovesbooks · 19/12/2025 22:38

You can't 'catch' Shingles, it's the chicken pox virus that's reactivated in the body, causing the Shingles. However, if someone hasn't had chicken pox, they can get that from someone who has Shingles. My son had Shingles in April/May, and couldn't go to school, and it was very painful. I'm not sure why your husband and other child are still going to your MIL's?! Surely, your husband tells his Mum that none of you will be coming, and it will be a quiet Christmas at home?! It's her choice not to want your eldest son there, even if you think her reasoning isn't correct.

StripyHorse · 19/12/2025 22:44

While MIL has the right to avoid potential viruses (however ill informed) she does not get to split your family unit up. I am with other posters with this.

Do you think if DH and other DC weren't going, that MIL might backtrack and decide she is OK with it after all? I can see my MIL doing that.

Toomanysofttoys · 19/12/2025 22:44

I had shingles on my thighs, buttocks and inside bits only a torch could see and it felt like I'd been burned with an iron and then like water was dripping down me and clothing hurt so much. Even if doctor told me I couldn't catch it I'd be nervous too. I can understand why she's acting like that.
I also think you should all stay at home and facetime her instead. Then see her at new years

Zonder · 19/12/2025 22:54

This is crazy. It's 6 days til Christmas. Even if he is still blistery now he won't be by Thursday so won't be contagious at all.

OakleyAnnie · 19/12/2025 22:56

There’s not a chance in hell that he’d be in my house with shingles. I’ve had it before too and am vulnerable to catching it again. She will be too. I was Dreadfully ill and then had post hepatic pain for months. For some people this never goes away. It can lead to suicide for some poor sufferers.
you have to be quite elderly to qualify for the vaccination. Believe me I’ve tried to get my surgery to give it to me to no avail.

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 19/12/2025 22:58

LuckyCharmz · 19/12/2025 20:54

You stay as a family at Christmas, if he can’t go then you all stay at home together surely?

Thats how my family work ...all of us or non of us.