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You’re going to die if you don’t eat.

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 18/12/2025 19:23

Those prisoners starving themselves, what the hell is going on in this crazy world!!!!

Pro Palestine activists are on a hunger strike, I really hope you get the result you want, the people of Gaza remember you seven kids who died for…… oh for them! 😂

I watched an interesting interview months ago now a young guy who was born in Israel then his father ended up being one of the head chiefs ( killers) in Hamas he know lives back in Israel after escaping…. His wise words were…. ‘ you lot in the west have no idea what is going on, with your protests and flags, stop trying to get involved in something we can and won’t be able to change’
This comes from a person on both sides who stayed very humble but very blunt.

Stop your silly little hunger strike, go and enjoy time with your family and friends you are lucky enough to be able to do that.

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LastTrainsEast · 19/12/2025 15:15

UxmalFan · 18/12/2025 20:02

It's a brave action on their part and finally people are recognising what they are doing. There was very little media coverage at first.
'Silly little hunger strike', OP, really? They are young people in their twenties ready to give up their lives for something they believe in. What could be more seirous.

Terrorists are often willing to die for their cause. More so perhaps in Islam as there's a tradition that it gets you a better deal in heaven, but even before that it can get your family fame and fortune in this life. We've seen mothers keen to have a martyr in the family.

In this case two have given up already to avoid actually dying and are mostly demanding to be released so they can arrange more attacks. Which is one reason they won't be.

Bunnycat101 · 19/12/2025 15:17

I think they are attention seeking and some of the MPs jumping on the bandwagon waggon are pissing me right off.

At the end of the day, they’re doing a rolling hunger strike which isn’t a proper hunger strike and any medical problems are a direct result of their own free will. I’d bet money the prisoner didn’t actually need an ambulance and the clinical staff inside the prison have been monitoring them closely.

I have a relative who nearly died due to anorexia. It is messy and horrible and they have most likely damaged themselves irreparably. I found it hard to deal with in someone I love who was mentally Ill. I have no sympathy at all for the people choosing to do this out of their own free will and they need to accept the consequences of their own actions. Some of them tried to break into a bloody military base. What did they think was going to happen? A pat on the back and a cup of tea?

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 15:21

LastTrainsEast · 19/12/2025 15:15

Terrorists are often willing to die for their cause. More so perhaps in Islam as there's a tradition that it gets you a better deal in heaven, but even before that it can get your family fame and fortune in this life. We've seen mothers keen to have a martyr in the family.

In this case two have given up already to avoid actually dying and are mostly demanding to be released so they can arrange more attacks. Which is one reason they won't be.

What a tempting offer! I for one can't wait to see how much more helpful they could be to Putin if we let them out.

Malvasylvestris · 19/12/2025 15:45

The increasingly hysterical nature of those vilifying the hunger strikers is becoming more apparent, as they resort to Islamophobia and trying to discredit Jews who don't agree with them and trying to ban tik tok as well as asserting they are not doing a proper hunger strike.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 19/12/2025 15:50

They’re not ‘giving up their lives for their cause’. 2 have ended the strike, the others have demanded medical attention if they felt they needed it. Defeats the whole point of ‘giving up their lives’

DangleDonkey · 19/12/2025 17:47

Staringintothevoid616 · 18/12/2025 23:25

Why? This is what happens to people determined as potentially dangerous or flight risks.

if someone is accused of say murder shall we let them walk the streets until they are found guilty

There's meant to be a 6 month limit really, and any more than that should be for good reason and also a reasonable time limit. It's mad in a western democracy that anyone should be held on remand for 16 months. It's not good for anyone if the justice system/ police/ prison service can act with impunity.

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 17:50

Well, they clearly meet the 'good reason' limb of that test.

The delays in the criminal justice system are very bad indeed cheers Tories but they're also something we are stuck with even if we throw all resources at fixing it, starting tomorrow. The damage will take time to repair. This means that meanwhile, we have to make some hard decisions about what to do with people accused of violent behaviour who haven't yet been convicted. And Palestine Action are dangerous, so they need to stay in.

None of this is a good thing. It would obviously been better if they'd been convicted by now.

Thegreyhound · 19/12/2025 17:55

It never fails to amaze me how unspeakably horrible some of the things some people on mumsnet post are.
It seems that the chance to be anonymous allows people to just say anything at all, including wishing death on people, defending people being detained without trial for over a year, laughing at people’s efforts and mocking the likes of Bobby Sands.
Just wow really

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 18:04

I wonder what those of you advocating for bail would do if they got it and one of them broke another person's spine with a hammer.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 19/12/2025 18:31

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 18:04

I wonder what those of you advocating for bail would do if they got it and one of them broke another person's spine with a hammer.

They’d probably again blame the person whose spine they broke for being there. It’s clear that these idiots see themselves as always the victims!

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 19/12/2025 18:35

Thegreyhound · 19/12/2025 17:55

It never fails to amaze me how unspeakably horrible some of the things some people on mumsnet post are.
It seems that the chance to be anonymous allows people to just say anything at all, including wishing death on people, defending people being detained without trial for over a year, laughing at people’s efforts and mocking the likes of Bobby Sands.
Just wow really

Absolutely @Thegreyhound the calls of these Palestine supporters are atrocious “globilise the intifada” “river to the sea” and other such calls to killing and violence are appalling!

Cleikumstovies · 19/12/2025 18:59

Are Muslims on Muslim majority countries protesting? No.
Are Muslim protesters in Muslim countries having weekly hate matches? No.
If the concept of the "ummah" so great, why are Deash, al Quaeda and others not doing anything, other than killing civilised westerners in Western counties?

KTheGrey · 19/12/2025 19:30

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 08:36

I don’t agree with these people, their tactics, or their demands. At the same time I don’t want them to starve to death. They are very young, some of them just 20. At that age it is quite common to get involved in crazy stuff for a cause you passionately believe in, and in ten years or so their views might be very different - if they live.

They should be taken to hospital, restored to health, then we deal with the charges.
My simple point is that it is quite possible to disagree with someone yet not want them to starve to death, even if they are inflicting the starvation on themselves.

It is indeed common at the age of 20 to be very passionate in your beliefs. It is also quite common to be finding out the limits of your power. I think they are likely to find out both the limits of both their physical bodies and of their influence on political bodies by going without food. One hopes they will not die but it’s mighty hard to stand between an adult and self endangering behaviour.

Malvasylvestris · 19/12/2025 20:15

Cleikumstovies · 19/12/2025 18:59

Are Muslims on Muslim majority countries protesting? No.
Are Muslim protesters in Muslim countries having weekly hate matches? No.
If the concept of the "ummah" so great, why are Deash, al Quaeda and others not doing anything, other than killing civilised westerners in Western counties?

Hi Suella! Yes, millions of Muslims in countries such as Indonesia, Yemen, Bangladesh etc as well as all civilised countries around the world have been protesting. Unfortunately their puppet leaders (like ours) do not represent them whilst some countries suppress dissent eg in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

I laughed at your 'civilised Westerners' (as opposed to the barbaric brown savages, I expect).

As Gandhi once said when asked what he thought about Western civilization, he thought it would be a good idea!

nicepotoftea · 20/12/2025 11:09

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 08:36

I don’t agree with these people, their tactics, or their demands. At the same time I don’t want them to starve to death. They are very young, some of them just 20. At that age it is quite common to get involved in crazy stuff for a cause you passionately believe in, and in ten years or so their views might be very different - if they live.

They should be taken to hospital, restored to health, then we deal with the charges.
My simple point is that it is quite possible to disagree with someone yet not want them to starve to death, even if they are inflicting the starvation on themselves.

They have the same right to medical care as anyone else on remand, but if they don't want to eat, what can be done? They can't be force fed.

inamarina · 20/12/2025 15:23

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:10

I don’t need to create any fictional characters, because there are plenty of PP saying that the hunger strikers should just eat. See the thread title - it is not that simple. Anorexia is a serious illness with a high mortality rate, but many non-medical people see it as choosing not to eat. Research into IRA hunger strikers has shown that women hunger strikers were left with lifelong eating disorders.

Surely deciding to go on a huger strike and suffering from anorexia is not the same?

growingsideway · 20/12/2025 15:31

Malvasylvestris · 19/12/2025 15:45

The increasingly hysterical nature of those vilifying the hunger strikers is becoming more apparent, as they resort to Islamophobia and trying to discredit Jews who don't agree with them and trying to ban tik tok as well as asserting they are not doing a proper hunger strike.

I just think it’s a bit silly really.

They’re not doing it because of what’s happening in Gaza. They’re doing it because they don’t like that they’ve been remanded in custody after being accused of committing crimes.

growingsideway · 20/12/2025 15:31

inamarina · 20/12/2025 15:23

Surely deciding to go on a huger strike and suffering from anorexia is not the same?

It’s not. At all.

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 15:46

growingsideway · 20/12/2025 15:31

I just think it’s a bit silly really.

They’re not doing it because of what’s happening in Gaza. They’re doing it because they don’t like that they’ve been remanded in custody after being accused of committing crimes.

Exactly.

ByWisePanda · 20/12/2025 15:49

What impact do these fools think they are going to do. Why don't they do that in Israel where the shit is happening, they won't do that will they.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g98pqxvzjo

Dozens of protesters carrying Palestinian flags are seen in Liverpool. At the front, several people hold a large banner which has the words 'Support the hunger strikers' painted on it

Palestine Action: Two protesters awaiting trial end hunger strike

Five more people awaiting trial over alleged offences are said to be continuing to refuse food.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g98pqxvzjo

growingsideway · 20/12/2025 15:51

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 15:46

Exactly.

I keep saying it but it’s a case of fuck around and find out. They committed a crime, and thought the justice system wouldn’t be delayed when it came to them. They’re now finding out that mummy and daddy’s money can’t save them from the consequences of breaking into a military base and damaging military planes.

ByWisePanda · 20/12/2025 15:51

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ByWisePanda · 20/12/2025 15:55

ByWisePanda · 20/12/2025 15:49

What impact do these fools think they are going to do. Why don't they do that in Israel where the shit is happening, they won't do that will they.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g98pqxvzjo

I take back my last comment and the one above. Isn't Kier Starmer supporting Israel and selling weapons. I can understand their position. I was a little too hasty with my judgement.

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 16:10

ByWisePanda · 20/12/2025 15:55

I take back my last comment and the one above. Isn't Kier Starmer supporting Israel and selling weapons. I can understand their position. I was a little too hasty with my judgement.

The 'hunger strikers: are doing so in the hope that they will be released on bail not remanded. Their 'hunger strike' has nothing to do with what they are accused of, which involved the beating and breaking of a policewoman's back.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 21/12/2025 23:23

Prisons minister today:

"I'm very clear, I don't treat any prisoners differently from any other, and that is why I will not be meeting any prisoners ".

They have demanded to meet. I guess if he met these hunger strikers, then any prisoners that wanted attention would do the same. They chose not to eat. I wouldn't want any to die. They need to stand trial for the charges against them, just like any remand prisoners and let the court of law hear evidence and then decide if innocent or guilty of charges.