Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

You’re going to die if you don’t eat.

329 replies

SheThinksShesAllThat · 18/12/2025 19:23

Those prisoners starving themselves, what the hell is going on in this crazy world!!!!

Pro Palestine activists are on a hunger strike, I really hope you get the result you want, the people of Gaza remember you seven kids who died for…… oh for them! 😂

I watched an interesting interview months ago now a young guy who was born in Israel then his father ended up being one of the head chiefs ( killers) in Hamas he know lives back in Israel after escaping…. His wise words were…. ‘ you lot in the west have no idea what is going on, with your protests and flags, stop trying to get involved in something we can and won’t be able to change’
This comes from a person on both sides who stayed very humble but very blunt.

Stop your silly little hunger strike, go and enjoy time with your family and friends you are lucky enough to be able to do that.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 07:41

The Palestine Action protestors are not terrorists and their organisation should never have been classified as a terrorist organisation. Hunger strikes have often been used by political prisoners, such as the suffragettes.

Your use of the laughing emoji is crass and misplaced, whatever you think of these prisoners.

HellsBalls · 19/12/2025 07:45

There is no genocide. Israel has the capability to carry out a genocide, but they haven’t.
About half the 70,000 dead are terrorist, do perhaps 35,000 dead civilians.
It was a terrible war, started, and lost, by Hamas.

Are the pro-pal lies campaigning for Hamas to disband so peace can continue?
Or just that Israel should not defend itself?
🇮🇱

Malvasylvestris · 19/12/2025 08:11

Staringintothevoid616 · 18/12/2025 23:51

Are you justifying the expulsion, torture and genocide against the Jews for millennia?

No. You are displaying a failure of logic

Humdingerydoo · 19/12/2025 08:22

thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 07:41

The Palestine Action protestors are not terrorists and their organisation should never have been classified as a terrorist organisation. Hunger strikes have often been used by political prisoners, such as the suffragettes.

Your use of the laughing emoji is crass and misplaced, whatever you think of these prisoners.

They participated in terrorist activity, so I'm not sure what else they really could be classified as.

Just because you agree with their actions doesn't make them not terrorist actions. It just means that you should probably take a good, long, hard look at yourself and realise what you have become.

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 08:36

I don’t agree with these people, their tactics, or their demands. At the same time I don’t want them to starve to death. They are very young, some of them just 20. At that age it is quite common to get involved in crazy stuff for a cause you passionately believe in, and in ten years or so their views might be very different - if they live.

They should be taken to hospital, restored to health, then we deal with the charges.
My simple point is that it is quite possible to disagree with someone yet not want them to starve to death, even if they are inflicting the starvation on themselves.

noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 08:39

How can they be restored to health if they won’t eat? The treatment they require is food.

The one who was urgently hospitalised yesterday has resumed her hunger strike, a fact celebrated by the despicable Zarah Sultana who should be convincing her to eat instead.

Dollymylove · 19/12/2025 08:42

Ilovecrispytofu · 18/12/2025 23:17

I agree with you. Luckily I manage to avoid such vile unempathetic people in real life. I need to go back to reading posts from people who are stressing about Christmas dinner to restore my faith in humanity!

People may potentially be a little kinder towards these people if they did a bit of protesting about some of the other many atrocities going on, right now, around the world. But hell no, theres no Jews to blame

Everyone back on the bus!!

Humdingerydoo · 19/12/2025 08:42

noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 08:39

How can they be restored to health if they won’t eat? The treatment they require is food.

The one who was urgently hospitalised yesterday has resumed her hunger strike, a fact celebrated by the despicable Zarah Sultana who should be convincing her to eat instead.

Encouraging people to self harm like this is a particularly despicable act. If she thinks hunger strikes are the way forward, why isn't Zarah Sultana joining in from the outside instead? It's so incredibly gross of her to encourage others to continue to self harm.

HappyFace2025 · 19/12/2025 08:45

Malvasylvestris · 18/12/2025 23:40

That's right, all the hundreds of thousands of them, along with numerous independent news sources, and prominent Jewish scholars such as Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim.

Prominent self hating Jews, Finkelstein, Pappe and Schlaim. The vast majority of Jews do not agree with them.

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 09:28

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 08:36

I don’t agree with these people, their tactics, or their demands. At the same time I don’t want them to starve to death. They are very young, some of them just 20. At that age it is quite common to get involved in crazy stuff for a cause you passionately believe in, and in ten years or so their views might be very different - if they live.

They should be taken to hospital, restored to health, then we deal with the charges.
My simple point is that it is quite possible to disagree with someone yet not want them to starve to death, even if they are inflicting the starvation on themselves.

Just to be clear, are you advocating for force feeding given that they don't want to eat?

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:10

Staringintothevoid616 · 19/12/2025 06:49

Which poster in particular do you think would say that. Do you really feel the need to create a fictional person with fictional ideas and reactions to make you feel better about yourself? How utterly sad and bizarre .

I don’t need to create any fictional characters, because there are plenty of PP saying that the hunger strikers should just eat. See the thread title - it is not that simple. Anorexia is a serious illness with a high mortality rate, but many non-medical people see it as choosing not to eat. Research into IRA hunger strikers has shown that women hunger strikers were left with lifelong eating disorders.

noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 11:14

The hunger strikers have chosen not to eat. Conflating them with people with anorexia is pretty offensive.

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:16

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 08:36

I don’t agree with these people, their tactics, or their demands. At the same time I don’t want them to starve to death. They are very young, some of them just 20. At that age it is quite common to get involved in crazy stuff for a cause you passionately believe in, and in ten years or so their views might be very different - if they live.

They should be taken to hospital, restored to health, then we deal with the charges.
My simple point is that it is quite possible to disagree with someone yet not want them to starve to death, even if they are inflicting the starvation on themselves.

They can’t be force fed under human rights law, the precedent in the UK being the Suffragettes. I don’t necessarily think it is ideological at this point - they can’t be thinking logically and will have developed eating disorders. I am very worried for them, they’re so young. I notice that the organisers aren’t on hunger strike.

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:24

noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 11:14

The hunger strikers have chosen not to eat. Conflating them with people with anorexia is pretty offensive.

Biologically, it is very likely that these young people are developing eating disorders. That’s my understanding from the research into eating disorders, which goes back centuries but has been studied in psychology since people were subjected to starvation in World War Two. I think it’s exploitative of the organisers to use young women as hunger strikers. I am extremely concerned for them.

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:26

noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 11:14

The hunger strikers have chosen not to eat. Conflating them with people with anorexia is pretty offensive.

I chose not to eat as a teenager, for non-political reasons, and it is very easy to become anorexic.

25milesfromhome · 19/12/2025 11:44

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 00:24

Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, according to the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem. I suppose they’re all anti-Semitic as well?

Dropping in with a quick reminder that the UN International Independent Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory including East Jerusalem and Israel is made up of just three members- independent human rights lawyers appointed by the HRC, all of whom have a long history of extreme anti-Israel bias and antisemitism. They released their findings that in their opinion it's a genocide. The Commission does not speak on behalf of the UN.

Pappe, Finkelstein and Schlaim are not actually prominent Jewish scholars but experts in manipulation and self-promotion with opinions who've been amplified to prominence because they represent a particular narrative. Presenting them as voices with more authority or moral value because they're Jewish has strong overtones of tokenising and strays uncomfortably close to Good Jew/Bad Jew territory.

HappyFace2025 · 19/12/2025 11:48

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:16

They can’t be force fed under human rights law, the precedent in the UK being the Suffragettes. I don’t necessarily think it is ideological at this point - they can’t be thinking logically and will have developed eating disorders. I am very worried for them, they’re so young. I notice that the organisers aren’t on hunger strike.

Irish protestors were force fed - the Price sisters in Belfast, for example

thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 11:56

Humdingerydoo · 19/12/2025 08:22

They participated in terrorist activity, so I'm not sure what else they really could be classified as.

Just because you agree with their actions doesn't make them not terrorist actions. It just means that you should probably take a good, long, hard look at yourself and realise what you have become.

I don't think that damaging two Royal Air Force (RAF) Voyager aircraft is terrorist activity. It was vandalism and nobody were hurt. Other people have been arrested for just holding up a sign saying that they support Palestine Action.

I don't need to take a good look at myself. I'm perfectly happy with my position.

thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 12:02

HappyFace2025 · 19/12/2025 08:45

Prominent self hating Jews, Finkelstein, Pappe and Schlaim. The vast majority of Jews do not agree with them.

I think that calling Jewish people that you disagree with self-hating Jews is anti-semitic.

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 12:10

DonicaLewinsky · 19/12/2025 09:28

Just to be clear, are you advocating for force feeding given that they don't want to eat?

Well yes I guess I am. If they’re near death they won’t have the capacity to make rational decisions, so couldn’t they be sectioned? I’m not sure of the law on this tbh. But I imagine ‘force feeding’ is a lot less brutal now than it was in the time of the suffragettes.

keepeofthesevenkeys · 19/12/2025 12:48

Malvasylvestris · 18/12/2025 23:40

That's right, all the hundreds of thousands of them, along with numerous independent news sources, and prominent Jewish scholars such as Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim.

The same Avi Schlaim who stands with Hamas?

HappyFace2025 · 19/12/2025 13:07

thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 11:56

I don't think that damaging two Royal Air Force (RAF) Voyager aircraft is terrorist activity. It was vandalism and nobody were hurt. Other people have been arrested for just holding up a sign saying that they support Palestine Action.

I don't need to take a good look at myself. I'm perfectly happy with my position.

But beating up a policewoman and breaking her back is ok is it? I'm guessing her life is in pieces now thanks to mere vandalism!

My pro Palestinian MP voted in favour of prescribing Palestine Action as a terrorist group, intimating in her letter to me that there was more going on that hasn't been made public. Consequently these vandals support terrorism by their actions.

Humdingerydoo · 19/12/2025 14:19

thepariscrimefiles · 19/12/2025 11:56

I don't think that damaging two Royal Air Force (RAF) Voyager aircraft is terrorist activity. It was vandalism and nobody were hurt. Other people have been arrested for just holding up a sign saying that they support Palestine Action.

I don't need to take a good look at myself. I'm perfectly happy with my position.

I've attached a screenshot to show that it is terrorist activity. So you are supportive of terrorism.

You being happy to support terrorism doesn't mean it's right. It means you are literally supporting terrorism. You are a terrorism supporter. I don't know how else to phrase it for you to understand the seriousness of what you're admitting to.

You’re going to die if you don’t eat.
noblegiraffe · 19/12/2025 14:41

BusyBat · 19/12/2025 11:26

I chose not to eat as a teenager, for non-political reasons, and it is very easy to become anorexic.

If you consider these people as anorexic then it is even more disgusting to be supporting them in their action.

LastTrainsEast · 19/12/2025 15:05

ThatNewMoose · 18/12/2025 19:50

Maybe they aren't doing it just for recognition from the people of Gaza,
Maybe they are on hunger strike as they just cant stomach that its now the new normal to sit back and watch Israel (killers) mercilessly murder innocent civilians and defenceless babies and children?.....
They are trying to make a difference however small.
Unfortunately every government has shown just how bloody spineless they really are and it will probably achieve nothing,

but YABU as I wouldn't be making snide jokes about it.

How far does your sympathy stretch? Hamas were forced to give up the remaining child hostages.

The ones they took on the Oct 7 massacre.

The ones they hadn't 'used up' in the meantime.

So would you be willing to offer one of yours to show your support for the good guys?

I note that two of the hunger strikers have decided to eat after all. The adult hostages Hamas took didn't have that option, but were starved just for the fun of it.