Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

[Horrace]

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

I still get letters addressed to 'Miss Sapphire September' even though I've been a Mrs since 2014! I've kept my ex-H's surname and my Mrs title, but luckily no longer get things addressed to Mrs Topaz November instead of my actual name.

I think that if those who have transgender identities created their own words and terms, then quite a few things would be different right now. However, that was not the strategy which was to normalise their destabilised version of the commonly used terms for their political claims.

I think that the more that people reject being emotionally manipulated or coerced in any way to use female language for male people and vice versa it will become easier for many others to do it. If that group wants to reset their thinking, I hope that they start soon.

You are talking about a completely different situation.

OP was given the chance to add their pronouns, if they so wished, and used the opportunity to mock others.

It makes actual women a subsection of their own category (ie there are trans women and cis women), which is why people object to the term.

Personally, I've never understood what the unifying feature is supposed to be between biological women and some men that would make this a coherent category?

I don’t want to be called “guys” either. I’m not a guy!

Nice work OP, that profile entry both made a point and was funny. Shame you had to remove it.

Utterly unsurprised that the complaint about the OPs pronoun field took the form of cry-bullying. ‘Waaah, this fwightens me.’

Im.not saying that I claim there is such a thing. I'm saying isn' t that THEIR argument. Or at least that's what I meant....that they claom.there is a female way of being and that they are THAT thing. And, yes. I get your point. What would that be ? I am a female and I don' t know what that' state of mind ' would be.

That's not the question you asked me though, is it?

Did she actually clarify that she was given the option? I might have missed it. Because in some places I've worked, it has been mandatory.

Why can't they use the facilities provided for their sex?

Its the first and last time.
The reason it was noticed is a whole other story which also got me in trouble but that's for another day

Anyone with a basic understanding of fetishistic behaviour will also know that you don't necessarily even have to do a deep dive. See men dressing as young girls in public ie school uniform, the likelihood is that they are attracted to minors.

i am a female and I don' t know what that' state of mind ' would be

Quite. And then actually being male complicates that further.

They do it because it's an effective way to get women silenced, but also because it plays into their fantasy of being a weak little woman who's so delicate that even a few mild words can cause them fear. It's so sexist I don't even know where to begin.

Thanks so much for this thread @Horrace . I don't normally make new year's resolutions, but prompted by you, I have decided that anyone who tries to 'ciswoman' or 'cisfemale' me in 2026 can get to fuck. They are totally superfluous terms.

Sometimes i feel i live in a different world to other people.Where are these 'most men who identify as women' behaving in a way that is threatening to women? I live just outside of London and work in London and I have never, ever been attacked or threatened or even looked at funny by a trans man or woman. I dont see 'middle aged men stomping around in skirts and tights' as someone put it,anywhere. i have never seen a trans person in a female toilet. I have however, been threatened both verbally and physically by men dressed as men throughout my life. I continue to be concerned about violence against women and girls and continue to fight that, if that does include trans then it does, but most of the time it doesn't. You could almost say that arguing about this deflects from the actual issue. As a mum of a young teen girl, i am far more worried about Andrew Tate and casual misogyny in younger men than I am about trans.

Yeah, i should have put it on inverted commas coz i didnt mean it asxacgiven but as an idea

I asked you how a woman would feel alienated in OP's situation (in being given the opportunity to add pro-nouns).

She has said that she's now left it blank, so it's obviously not mandatory.

Of course making it mandatory could be alienating for various people.

Because they don't want to? Though if forced DC tends to use the men's, but doesn't feel she belongs in there.
I have no intention of policing that. You don't understand what it feels like to trans and neither do I. I just believe that she would rather not go than use male facilities, and knows if she uses female facilities she will make others feel uncomfortable. If forced, she chooses her own discomfort over making others uncomfortable.

Just because you haven't come across them doesn't mean they don't exist. There are high profile cases which you can look up if you like.

The issue, as you rightly point out is MEN. But men with a 'female gender identity' are statistically no less of a threat than any other man. The question is why on earth we would support any man having access to female sex specific spaces?

Fair enough, I missed where she said that, and I do feel that it was kind of unprofessional for her to put that down as her pronouns, however, the person who complained saying they're fearful is just cry-bullyingm, or play acting the delicated female whose sensibiities are so delicate that silly words are too much for them, which we see so often with trans activists, so I struggle to care.

There are men. And women. No need for the word "cis".

It sets up a position where "cis" is a qualifier, just as "trans" is. It implies there are two types of women, or men. It's a language game to give validity to "trans" as being an actual woman.

Whereas we don't need any qualification. We are women. They are not.

Whatever that was, hope you’re ok.

The term 'cis' is meaningless because the term includes any male person who has a DSD yet has a body that is **formed around the production of small gametes that has any degree of sensitivity to any of the testosterone that body produces.

There is no word left for female people.

Because even male people are now saying they are also ‘female’ . When ^^ female means only a person of the sex category where that person's body has been formed around the production of large gametes, regardless of whether the body does, has or ever will produce those large gametes. ie that requires the presence of ovaries or ovarian tissue - never testes.

In fact, we now have examples of many male people declaring that they are female people. So even the word for female has become meaningless in that sense.

But 'cis' is a* *word that was repurposed from its original usage and is meaningless for the purpose of discussing female people in its current usage. It has been used in academic papers as well in an attempt at using inclusive language which then renders the papers meaningless because the term is not describing a unique grouping of human bodies, even when it claims to be doing just that.

To see how this works, we have been told that 'girl' and 'woman' both now include:

1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **.
2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.
3 And any person who has a female body ^^.

Under the label of 'girl' and 'woman', extreme transgender activists have been telling us for years that those labels break down into two types of girls or women:

Cis and Transwomen/transgirls.

These terms mean:

Cis
= (1) Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **
and
= (3) Any person who has a female body^^
Trans
= (2) Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

Therefore there is no unique word to mean female people who have a body ^^ formed around the production of large gametes.

Cis is meaningless as a unique description for female people and it always was. It is also misogynistic because it leaves female people with no unique word for their needs.

Just change it to human female adult - it’s true??!

As many women find it offensive would you stop using it?