Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

[Horrace]

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

I'm very sorry but I don't think that most trans people are respectful in the way that your child is.

But the number of men who behave this way is irrelevant.

Once one man is let in, they all are. The space is no longer single sex.

Safeguarding doesn't work on that basis.

I still think your gripe is with the wrong people. Be angry with the men who disrespect women's rights not with the women who are trying to protect them.

It's not always a choice. Some companies make it mandatory.

If we can cope with seeing pronouns that are symbolic of an ideology we find deeply regressive and harmful, why can't the pronoun lovers cope with seeing a little push back?

Yes I agree

I don't share my pronouns and happy for people to guess, but your description was unprofessional

Does it matter if people read your email and don't know if you are male or female?

So just biological sex but no gender categories then?

Their what now?

I do not believe in gender, therefore I do not have a "cisgender identity". Alex, Sam and Charlie are either he or she and that will be blindingly obvious when you meet Sam in the lift or are talking about Alex in a meeting.

"I don't feel emotionally safe to share my pronouns" should do the trick

I'm not even sure what you mean by 'gender categories' - do you have a list?

But personally, peoples 'gender category' should be totally irrelevant to others. People can knock themselves out with whatever gender categories they like.

So long as there is no suggestion that they ever usurp sex based categories or sex specific language - which is necessary to uphold for women's rights and safeguarding.

@Diverzeyou mention your dc using third spaces etc so are you ok with women maintain single sex spaces?

If it’s a yes to that then I think you’ll find agreement.

They can bring their concerns to their manager or HR?

I am not sure how they would be alienated in the situation OP described though?

And yet, people complained about OP sharing her viewpoint - essentially harassing her

No, i was talking about something else. Something more to do with personality..I agree with you about that though..There are only 2 sexes and.space should be divided up accordingly.

I’m afraid of you @Horrace - afraid of your amazing bravery at doing this in the first place. I’m in awe (& slightly jealous as I’d never be that brave in my organisation).

I completely agree that it should not be enforced. My apologies, I assumed it was a choice everywhere.

If my name was eg Alex, I might be happy if some people assumed I might be male. It's well known that some people still take men more seriously in the workplace

I knew of one older trans woman who avoided using the Mens or the Ladies, so restricted her social activities and her fluid intake. I felt sad for her - we need some individual unisex cubicles as well as the Mens and the Ladies. I use these myself when I have a heavy period and want to wash my hands before getting dressed.

Of course, I've also heard of school girls restricting their fluid intake in order to avoid using mixed sex toilets. So I think it's important to sort this out.

Saying take a wild guess is now considered harassment?
Wow

No, I am saying the language routinely used on the site is dehumanising of trans people, the majority of whom just want to live a quiet life that makes sense to them, in the full knowledge that they are not actually the opposite sex.
That posters on this thread who say "they" actually believe this or that, "they" take women's prizes and sports, "they" enjoy going in the women's changing room, "they" or "these people" do such and such.

Qualify your language.
You'd be disgusted if I wrote "these people are all terrorists" about Muslims because there is a radical fringe. Don't do it about trans people. Say "trans people who go in women's spaces/take their prizes are a problem". Don't start vilifying all trans people or talking of them as a unitary thing.

So what do you think politicians, transactivists and others really mean when they chant "Transwomen are women"?

The definition of “cis” means “on the same side as” - would you be able to explain why this is offensive?

Or of Alex wants to make it known she's female, surely that's easily achieved?

Have you seen what happens when women take their concerns about trans issues to HR? Have you seen the numerous tribunals taking place because women have done just that and been vilified for it?

It's alienating if you are forced to take pronouns seriously when you don't believe in gender woo and you consider it to be an insidious and harmful ideology.

Of course I am, and so are the trans people I know. They are often forced not to use the toilets at all and restrict fluids instead, if no third space exists.

As a person with a name that can be used by both sexes, I genuinely don't see why it's useful for people to know I'm a female 'Alex' rather than a male one.
In the vast majority of jobs the sex of the person with whom you're communicating via email is entirely irrelevant. It does however alter the way in which you are treated at times, often in a way that is detrimental to women.
So my experience is that clarity about my sex when emailing achieves nothing useful at all. I am typically assumed to be a man, and the to the point 'matey' responses from men assuming this, amuse me. As does the double take if we later meet in person. The way I'm more likely to be spoken to as an equal and a person of importance when assumed to be a man doesn't amuse me. But that is useful.

Because it is making women a subset of their own sex so that men can colonise it, and it was never used about humans before trans activists started to do so. It also assumes that we believe in gender identity, which most of us do not.