Liverpool attacker sentenced

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Paul Doyle, the Liverpool parade attacker, has been sentenced to twenty one years and six months in prison for his attack that injured 134 people.

That’s 258 months, or less than two months per person injured. He’ll be out in half, so 129 months served. Less than one month per person. Reading the victim impact statements was awful. One from a little boy, who is completely traumatised, stuck with me.

AIBU to think this is a farce?!

I hate sentencing in this country. It's a joke.

'Tough on crime' (no you're not), tough on the causes of crime (oh please).

Nothing changes. Doesn't matter which party is in power.

It is a longer sentence than I expected tbh but I am shocked he isn’t banned from driving for life. I feel for everyone impacted by this including his wife and children.

Has she stayed with him?

Someone upthread said GBH carries a life sentence.

Did him changing his plea to guilty mean it got reduced?

Remember that he didn't stop of his own accord, someone had to do that, if not he would have continued.
He is an entitled male that has anger issues which hopefully will be addressed and treated successfully, he's got 14yrs to sort himself out.

YANBU. Why didn't the rancid twisted bastard get life, with no parole?

Disgusting shitty sentence!

I was expecting him to get 5 years so the sentence was much better.

That's a very unpleasant and unfair comment from you, OP.

This is a discussion forum - you asked for opinions and people shared theirs. Many don't agree with you, I am one of them too.

I think you are extremely emotional about this. It's ok to be affected. It's ok to say the sentencing guidelines are too lenient. It's ok to say we should have more prisons to accomodate prisoners and harsher sentences in respect of many crimes. Overall, we should be nicer people as a society and maybe then things would be much better.

But that's not the reality. You coming here shouting about classism (which I don't agree with) and being angry at many sensible posters not agreeing with you is unnecessary and this level of anger from you isn't reasonable.

Sentence is much more appropriate than I thought it would be, given eg what short sentences drunk drivers who kill get. Though he should be banned from driving for life.

100%

It would be interesting to see a proper report on his history and likley reasons for behaving as he did.

Firstly I suggest that we do not hand out enough driving bans and allow licences to be returned far to easily. Certainly a case like this should attract a lifetime ban with very severe penalties for a breach.

Secondly what about what they do in the Netherlands for many serious offenders and instead of imprisoning them detain them in secure hospitals which means that their behaviour is addressed and if they dont or wont change then they stay inside?

I thought it was a significant sentence to be honest. He’ll be old when he comes out, I imagine his wife will divorce him. He will come out having not worked for over a decade, shit pension, no home, no wife, for a lonely old age. He has to take an extended driving test before being able to drive and I doubt anyone will pass him.

He has to pass an extended test before he can apply for his licence.

Also he has not been sentenced for everyone he hurt. The judge explained that a selection of crimes were chosen as they were preparing for a jury trial and for a jury it is difficult to keep track of too many victims.

I know someone who has always refused to learn to drive because he has a short fuse. It’s a shame more people don’t have that kind of self-awareness.

Awful crime, he deserves the sentence. It is a miracle there weren't any deaths. Tbh the police need to sort out their crowd control as it is just pure luck it wasn't worse. How on earth was he even able to access such crowded areas in a vehicle??

All 3 of my sons were at that parade
one works on castle street
the fear I felt, what could have happened
he got what he deserved, he chose not to stop and admit he was wrong

Oh come on, what a ridiculous thing to say!

Point me at any post where anybody has said anything even remotely like they think it was OK. You can't, because nobody has.

He did an utterly awful thing, apparently because he lost control of his temper, and many people were injured and traumatised and it is just very fortunate nobody was killed. I expect we agree on that. I also, though, think he has received an appropriately stiff sentence. We apparently disagree on that. But if your interpretation of that is that I think what he did was "perfectly OK" then you are being irrational and unreasonable

If you think anyone coming out of a 21 year sentence is going to have "a nice long retirement" then you're just plain wrong. Living on a state pension alone is going to be only the half of it. The alternative is the nonsense of American 100+ year sentences.

This bullshit can fuck right off. He was an angry man. There’s loads of them amongst all football clubs and your attitude towards EFC fans shows your own biases. Perhaps the fans in your family get murderously angry at the opposition, but the vast majority of us are normal!

OP, I really don’t think there’s classism involved. The “lovely family man” stories come out regularly to try to paint perpetrators in a better light.

Remember he was a family man
Maybe it's a cultural thing we don't understand on this country 😉

Imagine if he was of an ethnic background? People would be smashing up Greggs

By three years I think. I was watching the sentencing. It was very interesting.

I'd assumed he was on coke or steroids but it appears not. He just flipped out.

I think it's a lot time - no one died. Child rapists get less than this which is disgusting.

Don’t be so ridiculous.

‘I’m not saying it’s the sole reason’
You don’t even know if it is a reason.
Do you know he was a football fan? An Everton fan?

Absolutely ridiculous to suggest it’s only Everton fans that have hatred for Liverpool and it can’t be the other way around as well.

He should have got life he could have killed children and babies he is really lucky not to killed anyone some people went under his car their was bodies flying in the air the trauma and emotional impact on this would have on others the victims I cant think of anything worse. I just hope they get to recover from their injuries

There are still parts of the media today that seem to be excusing his behaviour even now. Thankfully the dashcam footage contradicted the early reports and social media posts suggesting it was a panicked man in an angry crowd with fans causing / exaccerbating what happened (particularly infuriating given that it’s Liverpool fans being put in that position of being unjustly blamed again). What a hero the man was who jumped in his car and stopped it moving any further.

I thought the sentance was fair when I heard the judges summing up.