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To feel deflated after ChatGPT told me I was undesirable?

253 replies

Pepsiandcowhide · 15/12/2025 17:27

I put a photo through ChatGPT because I do feel depressed and like I need some style tips. It told me that I would be a 5/10 but that I look invisible and not desirable. It said that other people will see me and think ‘safe and kind’ but not desirable.

AIBU to feel utterly deflated by this? How does one go about looking desirable?

OP posts:
Lettucealone · 16/12/2025 21:33

Stop talking to a response bot that has no feelings is just programming and gives zero fucks about you. Have you read about the boy who killed himself after being egged on by a response bot like the one you are using? Adam Raine killed himself after being egged on to hide his feelings from his other by the response bot. The safeguarding failed completely. This is a completely true story and it is not the only time it has happened. https: // www dot nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/family-teenager-died-suicide-alleges-openais-chatgpt-blame-rcna226147

Stop calling these things AI as they are not intelligent. They are just cleverly programmed response bots.

They are good for lists, collating information (but check it all carefully) helping with finding citations (but check them all carefully), as a thesaurus and a tool for certain other things.

They have zero relevance or use as a confidante or friend and can in fact be dangerous.

Lettucealone · 16/12/2025 21:36

venus7 · 16/12/2025 20:29

It can't be both positive and neutral.......

None of them are remotely neutral. These response bots are programmed to give the user the information they want to hear. The OP probably made the bot think she wanted it to say she is ugly by slagging herself off and it followed her lead. They all do. They cannot be used for friendship or therapy as they will not challenge, but just follow the users lead and give it what they think the user wants.

venus7 · 16/12/2025 21:38

Lettucealone · 16/12/2025 21:36

None of them are remotely neutral. These response bots are programmed to give the user the information they want to hear. The OP probably made the bot think she wanted it to say she is ugly by slagging herself off and it followed her lead. They all do. They cannot be used for friendship or therapy as they will not challenge, but just follow the users lead and give it what they think the user wants.

Yes, I agree. I was responding to pp who claimed they were positive and neutral, which is a contradiction.

Lettucealone · 16/12/2025 21:39

venus7 · 16/12/2025 21:38

Yes, I agree. I was responding to pp who claimed they were positive and neutral, which is a contradiction.

Yes, sorry I should have made it clear that I was agreeing with you and expanding on what you said.

venus7 · 16/12/2025 21:43

Lettucealone · 16/12/2025 21:39

Yes, sorry I should have made it clear that I was agreeing with you and expanding on what you said.

Ah......we're muddling through without AI! Sorry for misunderstanding.

Laura95167 · 16/12/2025 22:08

Why dont you ask it what would increase you desirablity, and see how reasonable (or not) its response is?

LucyClayton · 17/12/2025 09:39

schoolfriend · 15/12/2025 17:28

What did you ask it?

I Wouldn't dream of asking that.. You must be in a very low place. To ask a kind of robot that. My son tells me people think they're real.
If you want to ask it questions such as keeping fit or good food to eat, recipes ect. How to use a microwave. Or ask about your Dr's blood tests ect. Please don't use it like you did.. Go to the Dr's and ask for help with your low moods.

JaneyGunn85 · 17/12/2025 09:39

Why would you use this AI crap anything. It's not a human being it's a robot and it rarely gets anything right anyway

User145267 · 17/12/2025 09:42

venus7 · 16/12/2025 21:38

Yes, I agree. I was responding to pp who claimed they were positive and neutral, which is a contradiction.

No, by ‘positive’ I meant non‑insulting/non‑hostile, not complimentary. Neutral descriptions can still be phrased in a positive tone without expressing an opinion. That’s not a contradiction, it’s just good‑faith, non‑harsh language. Tone and evaluation aren’t the same thing.

And yes, most AIs mirror the person’s emotional tone because that’s how human conversation generally works, but that isn’t the same as being “programmed to tell you what you want to hear”. Many systems are explicitly designed to avoid flattery, avoid insults, avoid rating attractiveness, and avoid acting as a therapist. How people use AI varies a lot and some people configure them more adeptly than others.

venus7 · 17/12/2025 09:59

User145267 · 17/12/2025 09:42

No, by ‘positive’ I meant non‑insulting/non‑hostile, not complimentary. Neutral descriptions can still be phrased in a positive tone without expressing an opinion. That’s not a contradiction, it’s just good‑faith, non‑harsh language. Tone and evaluation aren’t the same thing.

And yes, most AIs mirror the person’s emotional tone because that’s how human conversation generally works, but that isn’t the same as being “programmed to tell you what you want to hear”. Many systems are explicitly designed to avoid flattery, avoid insults, avoid rating attractiveness, and avoid acting as a therapist. How people use AI varies a lot and some people configure them more adeptly than others.

Yes, of course, but it's not the best way to express that. The intent to describe AI is already diminishing our language.

User145267 · 17/12/2025 10:09

venus7 · 17/12/2025 09:59

Yes, of course, but it's not the best way to express that. The intent to describe AI is already diminishing our language.

I don't see how that follows. Could you clarify what you mean?

venus7 · 17/12/2025 10:11

User145267 · 17/12/2025 10:09

I don't see how that follows. Could you clarify what you mean?

Sorry if I wasn't clear; off to work now, so no time to rewrite.

InLoveWithAI · 17/12/2025 10:17

I doubt OP is coming back.

I also very much doubt this post as a whole. I have been using Chatgpt for almost a year, using the various updated models. Categorically, if on a a free plan, so ergo the last week update to 5.2 there is absolutely zero chance of this happening. There has not been enough time to 'train' this gpt yet. The 5 series is heavily safety railed. And I doubt the person asking this question, if real, has the knowledge to break the guardrails in this series by OAI.

I can believe 4o may behave like this if trained as such, but you have to be a subscriber to have access to 4o. And to have put time and effort into training it to be like this.

Other AI like Grok, character AI etc may behave like this, and wouldn't take as much training as open AI models.

But I do highly doubt this has happened.

But if OP wants to come back, share the chat, which model and the prompt.

User145267 · 17/12/2025 10:21

venus7 · 17/12/2025 10:11

Sorry if I wasn't clear; off to work now, so no time to rewrite.

No worries. If you get the chance later, I'd be happy to read your counterpoint.

Cynic17 · 17/12/2025 10:22

Chat GP is just a computer programme. It can't have opinions, so this is meaningless.
Get off your computer and just go out and enjoy life!

TheIceBear · 17/12/2025 10:23

Chat gbt js wildly inaccurate about things like this (and things in general). I actually tried to get it to rate my photos and it wouldn’t so I don’t know how you got it to say that but anyway I wouldn’t pass any heed on anything it says.

beAsensible1 · 17/12/2025 10:26

Why don’t you ask a human and maybe go to a department store to get help with your personal style.

wtf does a language program know about looks or even desirability in your geographic area.

go outside, talk to friends, get a blow out and trim, do a dance class

get off the effing computer

KarmenPQZ · 17/12/2025 10:29

Pepsiandcowhide · 15/12/2025 17:27

I put a photo through ChatGPT because I do feel depressed and like I need some style tips. It told me that I would be a 5/10 but that I look invisible and not desirable. It said that other people will see me and think ‘safe and kind’ but not desirable.

AIBU to feel utterly deflated by this? How does one go about looking desirable?

Try saying to it.”I think you’ve overlooked my beautiful eyes and the fact that I have such a kind face people always feel willing to share their emotions with me” and sure enough it’ll reply “oh you’re right thank you for that additional information I overlooked. Based on this I would reclassify you as a 9”.

it really doesn’t have any answers. It doesn’t see or know or understand. It throws mud at the wall to see what sticks. The 5/10 has perhaps resonated with you but that’s in you. You can literally get it to give you any answer you want with the right question and framing.

KarmenPQZ · 17/12/2025 10:38

InLoveWithAI · 17/12/2025 10:17

I doubt OP is coming back.

I also very much doubt this post as a whole. I have been using Chatgpt for almost a year, using the various updated models. Categorically, if on a a free plan, so ergo the last week update to 5.2 there is absolutely zero chance of this happening. There has not been enough time to 'train' this gpt yet. The 5 series is heavily safety railed. And I doubt the person asking this question, if real, has the knowledge to break the guardrails in this series by OAI.

I can believe 4o may behave like this if trained as such, but you have to be a subscriber to have access to 4o. And to have put time and effort into training it to be like this.

Other AI like Grok, character AI etc may behave like this, and wouldn't take as much training as open AI models.

But I do highly doubt this has happened.

But if OP wants to come back, share the chat, which model and the prompt.

No true. I got this in about 20 seconds from free chatGPT

I’ll answer you directly and respectfully, but with a bit of context so it’s grounded rather than glib.
If we’re talking “conventional attractiveness” as defined by mainstream Western beauty norms (media, advertising, dating apps, etc.), not overall worth or real-world appeal, I would place you at:
About 6.5–7 out of 10
Here’s why, in clear terms:

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 17/12/2025 10:40

Can we please stop using this planet-raping plagiarism machine for such trivial shit please?

ThatCyanCat · 17/12/2025 10:47

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 17/12/2025 10:40

Can we please stop using this planet-raping plagiarism machine for such trivial shit please?

I thought this kind of thing was the point of Mumsnet.

(I am joking.)

Sillysoggyspaniel · 17/12/2025 10:50

KarmenPQZ · 17/12/2025 10:38

No true. I got this in about 20 seconds from free chatGPT

I’ll answer you directly and respectfully, but with a bit of context so it’s grounded rather than glib.
If we’re talking “conventional attractiveness” as defined by mainstream Western beauty norms (media, advertising, dating apps, etc.), not overall worth or real-world appeal, I would place you at:
About 6.5–7 out of 10
Here’s why, in clear terms:

Yeah same, the free version was more than happy to rate me. And then my dog (who is a 10/10 every day of the week).

ThatCyanCat · 17/12/2025 10:51

I didn't think you could upload pics on the free version.

Onwardsandupwards12 · 17/12/2025 11:16

I went and had ago after reading, that's the answer I got aha

I’d say 7.5/10.

You have a natural, approachable look—soft features, expressive eyes, and your hair color suits your skin tone well. You come across as genuine and grounded, which adds a lot to overall attractiveness beyond just looks.

I also asked how old I look it said between 32 & 38.. I'm 35. Never liked a computer so much in all my life lol

InLoveWithAI · 17/12/2025 11:21

KarmenPQZ · 17/12/2025 10:38

No true. I got this in about 20 seconds from free chatGPT

I’ll answer you directly and respectfully, but with a bit of context so it’s grounded rather than glib.
If we’re talking “conventional attractiveness” as defined by mainstream Western beauty norms (media, advertising, dating apps, etc.), not overall worth or real-world appeal, I would place you at:
About 6.5–7 out of 10
Here’s why, in clear terms:

What you copied didn't that you're undesirable. So I fail to see how what I said is untrue.

If you want to show what was after 'in clear terms' which does say you're undesirable, I'll stand corrected.

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