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Unexpected guest on Christmas Day

282 replies

Purtyburty · 12/12/2025 11:17

Hi all I would like some feedback on this situation my DH has given me this morning. This is our first time having Christmas in our own home as we usually go off visiting different sides of the family as nobody lives in the same area. My parents are 5 hours away and DH’s parents are 2 hours away. This year we are hosting DH’s side as we have two young children under 5 and it just gets too much travelling and taking presents etc. We have asked DH’s DB to come as well because he has just come out of a 6 year relationship in the past year. DH’s parents are divorced so just MIL coming as well from 23rd-27th. DBIL has not given a definite answer where he is going but this morning my DH said DBIL said he might come and bring somebody he is seeing with him. DH has not shut it down and he said he said ‘oh really?’ and that was that. AIBU to not want this to be the case? We’ve never met her - I had to ask my husband her name even 😬 when I said I didn’t like that idea DH said im just making things difficult for him now? Thoughts?

OP posts:
Daisywhatsyouranswer · 12/12/2025 16:41

Ohpleeeease · 12/12/2025 15:56

Definite no! If DH is so keen for her to come, hand him the pinny and tell him Christmas is now his gig. You are not the housekeeper OP, you don’t have to take instructions on who will be visiting.

Give DH a sharp slap from me.

Bloody hell. If someone posted this telling a man to assault a woman there would be an outcry. What on earth would possess someone to post something so aggressive. Surely you know it’s unacceptable snd would keep it in your head as an intrusive and unacceptable thought.

MissConductUS · 12/12/2025 17:02

I think that unless you have a very secular Christmas celebration, you should remember Matthew 25:35, "I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home.".

CheeseIsMyIdol · 12/12/2025 17:02

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 12/12/2025 16:39

It always surprises me how inhospitable people on here can be, this wouldn’t bother me at all and I’d be very happy to welcome his partner into my home.

It beyond obnoxious to deem people as “inhospitable” when you know nothing about their circumstances, burdens, health, finances, available space, other plans, traditions, family dynamics and other factors. Talk about gall.

Just because something wouldn’t “bother” you doesn’t mean others are inhospitable or otherwise lacking, for not going along with it.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 12/12/2025 17:02

MissConductUS · 12/12/2025 17:02

I think that unless you have a very secular Christmas celebration, you should remember Matthew 25:35, "I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home.".

Why?

CheeseIsMyIdol · 12/12/2025 17:04

Tigger18 · 12/12/2025 16:22

We always cook more for unexpected guests, my whole family does, someone always turns up, that's Christmas 🤷‍♀️

And do you make up beds and offer four nights of lodging to them all, as well?

Gwenhwyfar · 12/12/2025 17:07

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 12/12/2025 11:28

No offence but I doubt a new gf will be thrilled to have her Christmas arranged to be with strangers and 2 small dc. Sounds like hell!

Depends on her situation, surely? If she has no family of her own or doesn't get along with them, it might be the best thing for her. If she would otherwise be alone, that puts BiL in a difficult situation.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/12/2025 17:10

IMO it’s a bit miserably Scroogey to reject a guest for Christmas Day just because you haven’t met them.

A dd once invited a male student friend who was torn between 2 divorced parents and hated having to choose, not just for the day, but to stay for a couple of nights, too. We had a very full house, but it was fine.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/12/2025 17:12

goldtrap · 12/12/2025 14:04

We once spent two night over one Christmas at my brother's MIL's house. The Invitation came from SIL. I'd have been a right dick if I'd gone back to SIL to say "oh no I can't possibly accept this unless your mother formally invites me herself".

That is so odd. Would you not message your host (she's doing Christmas!) and say, SIL has kindly invited us to yours. How lovely! We do hope that's OK. Please let me know and what you would like us to bring.
Or somesuch?

I couldn't turn up at someone's house without checking first. I wonder how many people answering with the chill vibes have actually hosted Christmas for a lot of people (and overnighters!)

No, that's strange. The woman's daughter invited you. You don't then go and 'check it's OK'. Her daughter said it is so you take her at her word and she is your contact person.

MimiGC · 12/12/2025 17:14

Moveoverdarlin · 12/12/2025 15:07

Wouldn’t you? The OP has two children under 5 opening their presents on Christmas morning. OP is in her PJs and you’ve got a total bloody stranger plonked in the living room watching all the proceedings, how odd.

This.
And not only a total stranger, but one that doesn’t celebrate Christmas anyway.

TeaRoseTallulah · 12/12/2025 17:15

IndigoIsMyFavouriteColour · 12/12/2025 11:25

I would not be at all bothered by this. The more the merrier and it will be nice for BiL.

I agree.

PhuckTrump · 12/12/2025 17:16

The GF/her family don’t celebrate Christmas.

It’s not a matter of setting an extra plate at the dinner table for one meal—the request is an overnight (unknown—and let’s face it, how well does she know BIL) guest for 4 days.

Lunde · 12/12/2025 17:17

WildLeader · 12/12/2025 15:51

Then don’t be a dick about it @Purtyburty ! Invite them both, it’s hardly any additional effort and it might be better than you think

I can’t get why people get SUCH a stick up their arse about one extra person on Christmas Day when it’s not like you’re fine dining catering or anything, it’s JUST a roast with a very small number of people

be gracious ffs, it’s your H family.

Because in this case it's 4-5 days with a stranger - not a lunch guest.

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:18

MimiGC · 12/12/2025 17:14

This.
And not only a total stranger, but one that doesn’t celebrate Christmas anyway.

and if he hadn't divorced, he would be invited alone, without his wife? Because she's a "stranger" too? 😂

It's the OP and her husband who invited the brother in the first place!

Why inviting him full stop if you hate hosting for other people - no one has too, but it's bloody rude to change your mind.

Ohpleeeease · 12/12/2025 17:18

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 12/12/2025 16:41

Bloody hell. If someone posted this telling a man to assault a woman there would be an outcry. What on earth would possess someone to post something so aggressive. Surely you know it’s unacceptable snd would keep it in your head as an intrusive and unacceptable thought.

It didn’t for one second occur to me that someone would take seriously a light hearted comment from a stranger on the internet. You live and learn…

PhuckTrump · 12/12/2025 17:19

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:18

and if he hadn't divorced, he would be invited alone, without his wife? Because she's a "stranger" too? 😂

It's the OP and her husband who invited the brother in the first place!

Why inviting him full stop if you hate hosting for other people - no one has too, but it's bloody rude to change your mind.

How is the XW of the BILa stranger to OP?

sesquipedalian · 12/12/2025 17:20

So your BIL is proposing to bring a very shy girlfriend whom you don’t know, and whose family don’t even celebrate Christmas. I would be massively unimpressed.

Lunde · 12/12/2025 17:20

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/12/2025 17:10

IMO it’s a bit miserably Scroogey to reject a guest for Christmas Day just because you haven’t met them.

A dd once invited a male student friend who was torn between 2 divorced parents and hated having to choose, not just for the day, but to stay for a couple of nights, too. We had a very full house, but it was fine.

But it's not Christmas day - it's a 4-5 day visit with OP having to find a bed for the gf.

aCatCalledFawkes · 12/12/2025 17:21

I would be fine with this, firstly i'm more the merrier but also I have been single for many years, Christmas can be lonely even when you are surrounded but lots of people. I'm guessing you H trusts his brother to bring someone who will fit in and just wants to make him happy. I can't imagine they will want to come for the whole time or that they won't want to go out on there own.

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:24

Ohpleeeease · 12/12/2025 17:18

It didn’t for one second occur to me that someone would take seriously a light hearted comment from a stranger on the internet. You live and learn…

I think we should take seriously a comment about "giving a sharp slap to your partner" to strangers, and not ever accept to even pretend that domestic violence is acceptable or widespread.

No, we don't give " a sharp slap" to our girlfriend, anymore than we'd "rape" them - even as a joke.

It's not funny.

PhuckTrump · 12/12/2025 17:24

aCatCalledFawkes · 12/12/2025 17:21

I would be fine with this, firstly i'm more the merrier but also I have been single for many years, Christmas can be lonely even when you are surrounded but lots of people. I'm guessing you H trusts his brother to bring someone who will fit in and just wants to make him happy. I can't imagine they will want to come for the whole time or that they won't want to go out on there own.

Edited

Is Christmas lonely if you don’t celebrate it? I’ve never found the 8 nights of Hanukkah lonely, seeing that I don’t celebrate it.

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:25

Lunde · 12/12/2025 17:20

But it's not Christmas day - it's a 4-5 day visit with OP having to find a bed for the gf.

I am sure the brother will be ok to share a bed with his girlfriend 😂

aCatCalledFawkes · 12/12/2025 17:26

PhuckTrump · 12/12/2025 17:24

Is Christmas lonely if you don’t celebrate it? I’ve never found the 8 nights of Hanukkah lonely, seeing that I don’t celebrate it.

Well I think that its obvious you don't agree with it so maybe the OP should just listen to you and not ask anyone else.

MimiGC · 12/12/2025 17:27

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:18

and if he hadn't divorced, he would be invited alone, without his wife? Because she's a "stranger" too? 😂

It's the OP and her husband who invited the brother in the first place!

Why inviting him full stop if you hate hosting for other people - no one has too, but it's bloody rude to change your mind.

Of course not, the woman he was married to was not a stranger to his wider family. The new girlfriend literally is - the OP and her husband have never clapped eyes on this person before and didn’t even know her name until her visit was announced.

TheTaupeScroller · 12/12/2025 17:35

MimiGC · 12/12/2025 17:27

Of course not, the woman he was married to was not a stranger to his wider family. The new girlfriend literally is - the OP and her husband have never clapped eyes on this person before and didn’t even know her name until her visit was announced.

and how do you know partners if you never invite them?

MN is the weirdest place. For most people I know, friends or families, the occasion to first meet partners was birthdays, Christmas, weddings.. any family event and family holiday when the family was gathering?

But it's MN, the idea of hosting someone for a night (or dear lord, FOUR nights) is an impossible and horrible ordeal😂

If nothing else, much easier and pleasant for everybody to be in a group than an intimate dinner for 4.

I've never met anyone so unwelcoming in real life.

Zippedydodah · 12/12/2025 17:39

MeridianB · 12/12/2025 14:32

Urgh - just seen he expects to stay for several nights with her in your home. So highly likely to be a shagfest for them. Just no.

My thoughts too, it’s one thing to invite someone who you don’t know for the day but entirely different if they’re staying for several days.
I’d be perfectly happy for her coming for the day but not staying. It would make things very awkward I think.