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Sky News segment on visa overstayers tonight

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icannotbelievethis · 11/12/2025 22:29

One woman who came here on a 3 month visitor visa 12 years ago, who is a “full time carer” for her sister.

One man who came here on a student visa which was then cancelled because he stopped attending his lectures, who has been here illegally for two years and works cash in hand. Therefore not paying tax or national insurance.

Wtf?! Why did Sky News interview them (and no doubt pay them!) and not turn up with the border force to get them sent home?! This is baffling

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Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 06:21

DuncesAreThere · 16/12/2025 22:41

The lower skilled jobs always get paid less. It reflects a lack of skill. Nothing about exploitation, they get paid relative to their skills. Nothing about billionaires. Cleaners, drivers, and retail workers get paid low just because it's how it is. In retail the profit margins are notoriously tiny anyway. Many billionaires create highly paid skilled jobs.

The tax gap is mostly from small businesses as I learnt. It's the truth. It's what the data says.

It’s not about being lower paid it’s about receiving a decent pay. You can have highly skilled jobs receiving higher pay and lesser skilled jobs receiving lower paid but those lower paid job should morally be paid enough to pay for somewhere to live, to eat and to heat without tax subsidies. Instead what is happening is those wages are kept low and the people at the top are pocketing any extra profit to the tune of money that they are unable to actually spend. If money was time the a million minutes takes you to 2023 a billion minutes takes you back to the Roman Empire.

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 06:29

DuncesAreThere · 17/12/2025 00:05

Because take a trip to Bradford, Whitechapel, alum rock Birmingham and see the damage rampant multiculturalism has done. Some places don't feel English anymore.

I got to spend some time in central and eastern Europe this summer. They've resisted pressure from the EU to accept mass migration and it's so nice there. It was like a breath of fresh air.

Birmingham is a beautiful multicultural city, I used to live and work there. That multiculturalism is part of being English. England is multicultural, the whole bloomin history of this country is around immigration.

Secondly immigration is not a EU thing, let me guess you voted Brexit and now you’re unhappy about the Brexit boats.

I’d be interested to know exactly where you spent time in central or Eastern Europe where there wasn’t immigration.

DuncesAreThere · 17/12/2025 07:17

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 06:21

It’s not about being lower paid it’s about receiving a decent pay. You can have highly skilled jobs receiving higher pay and lesser skilled jobs receiving lower paid but those lower paid job should morally be paid enough to pay for somewhere to live, to eat and to heat without tax subsidies. Instead what is happening is those wages are kept low and the people at the top are pocketing any extra profit to the tune of money that they are unable to actually spend. If money was time the a million minutes takes you to 2023 a billion minutes takes you back to the Roman Empire.

The wages are low because that's how the market is. Nothing to do with billionaires. In the private sector it's how it is. Wage is tied to the monetary value of their output, if it's low it's low. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. Maybe prices have been rising due to rampant inflation but wage haven't risen. But I don't just blame billionaires for that.

I don't care about how big it is, yes it's big. So what? It's theirs? Lots of their assets are intangible anyway and are in shares of companies they've built.

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 07:33

DuncesAreThere · 17/12/2025 07:17

The wages are low because that's how the market is. Nothing to do with billionaires. In the private sector it's how it is. Wage is tied to the monetary value of their output, if it's low it's low. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. Maybe prices have been rising due to rampant inflation but wage haven't risen. But I don't just blame billionaires for that.

I don't care about how big it is, yes it's big. So what? It's theirs? Lots of their assets are intangible anyway and are in shares of companies they've built.

Markets don’t operate in a vacuum, and wages aren’t set by productivity alone, they’re also shaped by who has bargaining power and how the rules are written. It reflects structural changes like weakened labour, bargaining, employer concentration, outsourcing, and importantly policy choices that put capital over labour. And how influences policy choices? All while influencing the media output and the therefore narrative. Who’s to blame for a decrease in living standards for thousands them or those pesky immigrants or have very little impact on anyone personally? This narrative being pushed also allows nasty little racists to believe that it is acceptable to be racist, however it’s not and it never is and shows more than we need to know about an individuals character and morals.

DuncesAreThere · 17/12/2025 07:48

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 06:29

Birmingham is a beautiful multicultural city, I used to live and work there. That multiculturalism is part of being English. England is multicultural, the whole bloomin history of this country is around immigration.

Secondly immigration is not a EU thing, let me guess you voted Brexit and now you’re unhappy about the Brexit boats.

I’d be interested to know exactly where you spent time in central or Eastern Europe where there wasn’t immigration.

I've had the misfortune of going to Birmingham. I hated it there. Think it's the worst city for crime in the UK as well.

I supported remain. But those who voted for Brexit are allowed to have these views as well.

I was just recently in Hungary and I absolutely loved it there. There is still immigration, but they do heavily limit it and don't let it get out of control.

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/12/2025 08:03

DuncesAreThere · 17/12/2025 07:48

I've had the misfortune of going to Birmingham. I hated it there. Think it's the worst city for crime in the UK as well.

I supported remain. But those who voted for Brexit are allowed to have these views as well.

I was just recently in Hungary and I absolutely loved it there. There is still immigration, but they do heavily limit it and don't let it get out of control.

It also has the highest % of children living below the poverty line and one of the density populations of people and you don’t think these are significant factors in crime rates? Probably easier to blame immigration.

I’m honestly not suprised you loved Hungary, your kind of people.

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