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AIBU to be fed up of defending my choice to use formula

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Sequinbow · 10/12/2025 15:58

I just want a bit of a rant, I’m fed up of having to defend formula feeding my little girl. She is 5 months old and thriving šŸ’“ she absolutely loves her bottle and it’s wonderful to feed her she’s happy and content.

but….

I’ve had a stranger tell me (whilst I was feeding my LO) ā€˜breast is best’ and i should try harder to breast feed. I’ve also had colleagues and other mums pointing out ā€˜oh you’re not breastfeeding’ when I get her bottle out and asking why im not breast feeding.

There is a lot of chat in the mums WhatsApp group about how they are beside themselves to make the decision to bring in one bottle per day of formula to top up their supply and how they need to come to terms with it etc I find myself wanting to defend formula feeding my baby. And it’s the implication that my little girl is at a disadvantage because of me, her mum.
I wonder what do they think of me if they’re so caught up with adding just one bottle of formula when I exclusively formula fed.

im really fed up of having to defend my choices and having to provide a reason for formula feeding. I feel looked down on for formula feeding my daughter x

OP posts:
Purplecatshopaholic · 11/12/2025 10:34

The phrase, I give zero fucks about your opinion, is your friend here..

TheKeatingFive · 11/12/2025 10:36

Fuckoffeasypeelers · 11/12/2025 10:29

No we don't need to find reasons that BF is better, its the optimal way to feed babies.
Full stop

But the other poster is absolutely right. The difference (accounting for all other factors) is absolutely minimal.

There are FAR more important things we could be focused on.

I'm speaking as someone who BF, loved BFing and is a big advocate of BFing. But there should be no shame or guilt in formula, which is an absolutely excellent alternative.

TheseWinterDays · 11/12/2025 10:37

Fuckoffeasypeelers · 11/12/2025 10:29

No we don't need to find reasons that BF is better, its the optimal way to feed babies.
Full stop

It might be the optimal way to feed babies - might - I don’t have strong opinions either way. But the benefits in terms of breast cancer risk reduction are definitely oversold. I had breast cancer in my late 20s after exclusively breastfeeding and I know someone who had breast cancer after breastfeeding seven children. It’s dangerous advice that breastfeeding prevents breast cancer. Statistically there may be less overall risk, but midwives and health visitors stating this as fact are irresponsible.

TheseWinterDays · 11/12/2025 10:38

TheKeatingFive · 11/12/2025 10:36

But the other poster is absolutely right. The difference (accounting for all other factors) is absolutely minimal.

There are FAR more important things we could be focused on.

I'm speaking as someone who BF, loved BFing and is a big advocate of BFing. But there should be no shame or guilt in formula, which is an absolutely excellent alternative.

I agree!

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:39

Idontpostmuch · 11/12/2025 10:07

The trouble is that the medical profession are always out of date and dinosaurs. They can take forever to take on new evidence. For example they're still telling us HPV is only transmitted sexually, despite it being prevalent among nuns and despite a significant number of virgins getting it. So it is with formula. It's come a long way since it was first developed, and at that time breast was superior. Now it makes little difference. Having said that, I can't imagine why any mother would choose to bottlefeed - too much work. Sadly many health professionals don't understand breastfeeding and give bad advice, leading to some woman failing to breastfeed when they wanted to and could easily have done so. Neither of my children had even a drop of formula, had nothing but breastmilk until 6 months, were breastfed until 20 months/22 months and I loved every minute. However I don't believe they had advantages denied to the bottlefed lot.

I agree the benefits are amazing on paper but if you quantify them they’re very small. I was breastfed as a baby until last 1, DH was never breastfed at all and straight to formula. I’m riddled with autoimmune type conditions, pick up colds etc, DH has zero conditions and never catches anything. And this is with presumably a primitive formula from the 70s.

I get it, you don’t want to put in all that effort to be told it makes not much difference from something you can buy in Tesco, but that’s fact. Of course on a population level it makes a difference and that’s why they push it, which I understand.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:41

TheKeatingFive · 11/12/2025 10:36

But the other poster is absolutely right. The difference (accounting for all other factors) is absolutely minimal.

There are FAR more important things we could be focused on.

I'm speaking as someone who BF, loved BFing and is a big advocate of BFing. But there should be no shame or guilt in formula, which is an absolutely excellent alternative.

Completely agree 100%.

Frankly I get ā€˜upset’ at seeing toddlers being given Greggs and cans of vimto for lunch, or sucking on Chupa chups.

I know a lot of breastfed babies who are now clearly heading for obesity after their mums took their foot off the gas when it came to their actual diet.

PlasticTr33s · 11/12/2025 10:43

Fuckoffeasypeelers · 11/12/2025 10:29

No we don't need to find reasons that BF is better, its the optimal way to feed babies.
Full stop

There are far more important daily optimal choices to worry about.

everdine · 11/12/2025 10:44

It’s a personal choice and no one should make anyone feel guilty. I’ve never understood why people tear each other down for making different choices.

tilypu · 11/12/2025 10:44

I would be saying random shit back to them.

'I'm a trans man'
'you can't breast feed when you've had a double mastectomy'
'do you know what expressed breast milk looks like when it's in a bottle? Pretty much exactly like this'
'the last time I breast fed in public a judgemental asshole told me to put them away. He looked a bit like you actually.'

PlasticTr33s · 11/12/2025 10:44

Laptopinthelivingroom · 11/12/2025 09:09

But sometimes Mums want to discuss their experiences. Mums shouldn't be made to feel like they should shut up and get on with it. That is like saying parental support is offensive to those that cannot have DC, Mums should should be greatful and get on with whatever is thrown at them. It is ok to discuss your parenting journey, it is ok to celebrate the bits you are proud of. People shoudn't be making everything about themselves and silencing other Mums.

But nobody wants to hear your parenting journey it has no relevance to anybody else.

TheseWinterDays · 11/12/2025 10:46

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:41

Completely agree 100%.

Frankly I get ā€˜upset’ at seeing toddlers being given Greggs and cans of vimto for lunch, or sucking on Chupa chups.

I know a lot of breastfed babies who are now clearly heading for obesity after their mums took their foot off the gas when it came to their actual diet.

My DC had Greggs a couple of times a week as a toddler and has a BMI of 19!

Milliemoons · 11/12/2025 10:49

BuffaloCauliflower · 10/12/2025 16:04

If you were breastfeeding you’d be getting comments about that too - are you sure baby’s getting enough, they’d sleep better if you gave them a bottle, aren’t they getting too big for that now, don’t you want someone else to feed them so you can get a break…

This is firmly in the category of things we do as women where whatever we choose it’s wrong. It’s frustrating all round. You made your choice, you’re happy with it, best to let comments wash over you

Can confirm this is true. I’m breastfeeding a baby born in May. I get stares and comments, I get people moving seats in cafes so they don’t have to
be near me. My family comment that I need to pump or give formula so they can feed a bottle. It’s not about how you feed. It’s about the fact you’ve made a choice. How dare we.

DarkPassenger1 · 11/12/2025 10:50

YANBU. The whole breast is best ideology is a flimsily concealed facade designed as yet another way to subjugate and control women, keep them at home, keep them chained to their baby and providing 100% of the childcare when they're little. Ironically it's often other women pushing it because they've fallen for it too and enjoy feeling superior and smug. Internalised misogyny is a bugger. They just can't bear to see a happy, confident mum choosing to feed her baby how she feels is best instead of kowtowing to lactivists.

It's disgraceful and I call it out every time I see it, and I say that as a mum that breastfed for a long time and loved it. There is no universal best way to feed your baby, and anyone trying to force their views onto you when you and your baby are healthy and thriving needs their intentions examined.

chellewillnotbebeaten · 11/12/2025 10:51

Breastfeeding broke my metal health, I lasted 2days. I never wanted to do it (made this decision years before dd was born) but felt pressured and midwife at hospital literally pulled baby out and grabbed my breast to get her to latch on 😱
I was miserable, dd was miserable, promptly switched to formula and she took to it like a dream! I now have a very happy and very healthy 4yr old whom I’m very close to and have a fantastic bond.
Breast is NOT BEST.
Fed is BEST!!!
Do what’s right for you! Your wellbeing and happiness is imperative and if that suffers so will baby.
This is 2025, each to their own, everyone has a choice!

Milliemoons · 11/12/2025 10:51

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:41

Completely agree 100%.

Frankly I get ā€˜upset’ at seeing toddlers being given Greggs and cans of vimto for lunch, or sucking on Chupa chups.

I know a lot of breastfed babies who are now clearly heading for obesity after their mums took their foot off the gas when it came to their actual diet.

Oh man, my toddler had Greggs for lunch yesterday šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø guess I should be home cooking home cooked meals every day.

DarkPassenger1 · 11/12/2025 10:54

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:39

I agree the benefits are amazing on paper but if you quantify them they’re very small. I was breastfed as a baby until last 1, DH was never breastfed at all and straight to formula. I’m riddled with autoimmune type conditions, pick up colds etc, DH has zero conditions and never catches anything. And this is with presumably a primitive formula from the 70s.

I get it, you don’t want to put in all that effort to be told it makes not much difference from something you can buy in Tesco, but that’s fact. Of course on a population level it makes a difference and that’s why they push it, which I understand.

This is really true. The benefits are minor and short term, and disappear by the time the baby is one. It literally makes no longterm difference to the child. The only evidenced longterm difference is a smaller risk of certain cancers for the mother. That's it.

I've noticed people often react really strongly against the evidence around this, I totally get that if it's been incredibly difficult and you kept going and got lots of pats on the back from people saying well done it can be hard to recognise that actually, it doesn't matter for your child either way, especially if you persevered because you were under the impression it was a magical substance that would cause them to grow up slim, smart, successful and in perfect health. But the evidence doesn't lie. The best way to feed your baby is the way that works for you and your baby. If they're getting enough calories of formula milk or breast milk they'll thrive.

GeorgieFG · 11/12/2025 10:59

OP, if you had been clear in your first post that you wanted to breast-feed but were unable before saying that your daughter is doing really well on formula and you wish other mums would not go on about breast being better, the responses might have been quite different.

Idontpostmuch · 11/12/2025 11:09

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 10/12/2025 23:35

Rubbish. Fed is bed. If there are benefits to bf, they are tiny, and they are never weighed up against the massive and economically heavy burden on the mother, or the toxins in breast milk, or the period of significant and dangerous infant weight loss while the mother is building up her supply.

Fed is best. Every. Single. Time.

What a load of bollocks.

Idontpostmuch · 11/12/2025 11:12

HoneyParsnipSoup · 11/12/2025 10:39

I agree the benefits are amazing on paper but if you quantify them they’re very small. I was breastfed as a baby until last 1, DH was never breastfed at all and straight to formula. I’m riddled with autoimmune type conditions, pick up colds etc, DH has zero conditions and never catches anything. And this is with presumably a primitive formula from the 70s.

I get it, you don’t want to put in all that effort to be told it makes not much difference from something you can buy in Tesco, but that’s fact. Of course on a population level it makes a difference and that’s why they push it, which I understand.

@HoneyParsnipSoup Have you quoted the wrong post?

Procrastinatrixx · 11/12/2025 11:14

Phwoar, what a thread.

It’s hard to know what’s a useful contribution here, but I’ll try.

OP: to get back to your original post, as others have said you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so try to let the comments from strangers and colleagues wash off like water off a ducks back. That’ll put you in good stead for a lot of the criticisms ahead of you as a parent too. However, as others have said, the Mums in your Watsapp group have every right to share their concerns about feeding too, without being judged by you (which is what you do when you criticise them for being concerned). Try not to let it drive a wedge between you and them.

Beyond this, I think there’s far too much personal anecdote and lot of hyperbole in this thread and too little actual evidence - especially from those claiming the benefits of breast milk have been oversold - if you state this can you please share receipts? Because all the authoritative sources I have found say the following:

  • In terms of baby nutrition, fed is best. Both have health & social & economic pros and cons and it’s ultimately down to parental preference. That’s the official and very neutral line across the board, in UK & US at least.
  • There’s still indeed enough reliable research to show at both individual and population level further health benefits to mum & baby from breastfeeding, that have not been reliably disproved (short and long term immunity and resilience, bonding, quicker post partum recovery, reduced risks of obesity, diabetes, and cancers, etc). See NHS and Mayo Clinic for references (especially the latter). In my view anyone claiming the opposite is on par with anti-vaccers unless they share their sources. And no, one persons personal & unique experience/opinion is not the same as data collated and scrutinized from a 1000+ patient sample studied by medical researchers and subject to peer review publication. Come on people use your noggins.
  • Lastly, the UK has one of the lowest rates of breastfeeding in the world - this thread illustrates why. We have a culture that at best does not support breastfeeding and at worst is downright hostile to it, and trades in misinformation that discourages breastfeeding.

I’m also mindful of the Nestle Baby Formula scandal in the 1970s - it seems misinformation they spread (that formula is superior to breast milk) is still going strong, generations later. I didn’t realise that the boycott was ongoing & that they had recently been criticised for adding honey to baby food too.

Allswellthatendswelll · 11/12/2025 11:54

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 11/12/2025 09:03

I am all for women breast feeding or formula feeding or doing whatever combination works for them and their child, but they should be educated about the RISKS of breast feeding.

Fed Is Best was a phrase that came into being because the push to breast feed has become so militant that it's killed and injured babies. The phrase was coined around 2018 by Dr Christie del Castillo-Hegyi, whose perfectly healthy son had a cardiac arrest 12 days after birth due to hypernatremic dehydration; he developed severe brain injury and died at 19 days of age. Both the pediatrician and lactation consultant told her to keep trying to breastfeed her newborn, even though she knew she was producing no milk and her baby was losing a lot of weight. She trusted them, with ghastly consequences.

This was NOT an isolated case. Up to a quarter of babies of first-time mothers develop hypoglycemia that is severe enough to induce brain damage. Most of the 80,000 U.S. neonatal readmissions annually are because of hypernatremia and hypoglycemia. Both can cause brain damage and death as well as a wide range of other physical impairments.

Re. toxins, breast tissue is fatty and accumulates lipophilic toxins such as PCBs, dioxides, heavy metals such as lead, parabens, pesticides, and industrial chemicals. Because breast milk is fatty, the lipophilic toxins in breast fat (and fat elsewhere in the body) enters the breast milk. This is why environmental scientists and public health researchers are so interested in breast milk - because it is an EXCELLENT biomarker of previous and current exposures to pollution and environmental toxins.

The lactavists don't tell you this, or about the unspeakable dangers of militancy about breast-feeding, because they are zealots and/or they are making money/careers from pushing breast feeding. A LOT of babies have died or suffered brain damage because of this.

So Fed Is Best is the way to go.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8491802/
https://fedisbest.org/2016/09/the-scientific-evidence-on-the-effects-on-accidental-starvation-on-the-newborn-brain/

That's a very sad case but clearly a very particular set or circumstances and the woman went against clear medical advice. It's completely deranged to say that that is a likely outcome for breastfed babies or that breastfeeding is dangerous.

Babies are very delicate and can develop issues for all sorts of reasons. DS was born with severe hypoglycaemia and being on a feeding regime of formula saved his life or at least stopped him from being brain damaged. Then we switched to EBF when he was a week old and he completely thrived. So I'm not anti formula at all but I am pro supporting breastfeeding and completely anti wacky misinformation.

Allswellthatendswelll · 11/12/2025 11:55

Procrastinatrixx · 11/12/2025 11:14

Phwoar, what a thread.

It’s hard to know what’s a useful contribution here, but I’ll try.

OP: to get back to your original post, as others have said you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so try to let the comments from strangers and colleagues wash off like water off a ducks back. That’ll put you in good stead for a lot of the criticisms ahead of you as a parent too. However, as others have said, the Mums in your Watsapp group have every right to share their concerns about feeding too, without being judged by you (which is what you do when you criticise them for being concerned). Try not to let it drive a wedge between you and them.

Beyond this, I think there’s far too much personal anecdote and lot of hyperbole in this thread and too little actual evidence - especially from those claiming the benefits of breast milk have been oversold - if you state this can you please share receipts? Because all the authoritative sources I have found say the following:

  • In terms of baby nutrition, fed is best. Both have health & social & economic pros and cons and it’s ultimately down to parental preference. That’s the official and very neutral line across the board, in UK & US at least.
  • There’s still indeed enough reliable research to show at both individual and population level further health benefits to mum & baby from breastfeeding, that have not been reliably disproved (short and long term immunity and resilience, bonding, quicker post partum recovery, reduced risks of obesity, diabetes, and cancers, etc). See NHS and Mayo Clinic for references (especially the latter). In my view anyone claiming the opposite is on par with anti-vaccers unless they share their sources. And no, one persons personal & unique experience/opinion is not the same as data collated and scrutinized from a 1000+ patient sample studied by medical researchers and subject to peer review publication. Come on people use your noggins.
  • Lastly, the UK has one of the lowest rates of breastfeeding in the world - this thread illustrates why. We have a culture that at best does not support breastfeeding and at worst is downright hostile to it, and trades in misinformation that discourages breastfeeding.

I’m also mindful of the Nestle Baby Formula scandal in the 1970s - it seems misinformation they spread (that formula is superior to breast milk) is still going strong, generations later. I didn’t realise that the boycott was ongoing & that they had recently been criticised for adding honey to baby food too.

Very useful summary thank you! Agree this thread has got completely out of control.

PlasticTr33s · 11/12/2025 12:09

Procrastinatrixx · 11/12/2025 11:14

Phwoar, what a thread.

It’s hard to know what’s a useful contribution here, but I’ll try.

OP: to get back to your original post, as others have said you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so try to let the comments from strangers and colleagues wash off like water off a ducks back. That’ll put you in good stead for a lot of the criticisms ahead of you as a parent too. However, as others have said, the Mums in your Watsapp group have every right to share their concerns about feeding too, without being judged by you (which is what you do when you criticise them for being concerned). Try not to let it drive a wedge between you and them.

Beyond this, I think there’s far too much personal anecdote and lot of hyperbole in this thread and too little actual evidence - especially from those claiming the benefits of breast milk have been oversold - if you state this can you please share receipts? Because all the authoritative sources I have found say the following:

  • In terms of baby nutrition, fed is best. Both have health & social & economic pros and cons and it’s ultimately down to parental preference. That’s the official and very neutral line across the board, in UK & US at least.
  • There’s still indeed enough reliable research to show at both individual and population level further health benefits to mum & baby from breastfeeding, that have not been reliably disproved (short and long term immunity and resilience, bonding, quicker post partum recovery, reduced risks of obesity, diabetes, and cancers, etc). See NHS and Mayo Clinic for references (especially the latter). In my view anyone claiming the opposite is on par with anti-vaccers unless they share their sources. And no, one persons personal & unique experience/opinion is not the same as data collated and scrutinized from a 1000+ patient sample studied by medical researchers and subject to peer review publication. Come on people use your noggins.
  • Lastly, the UK has one of the lowest rates of breastfeeding in the world - this thread illustrates why. We have a culture that at best does not support breastfeeding and at worst is downright hostile to it, and trades in misinformation that discourages breastfeeding.

I’m also mindful of the Nestle Baby Formula scandal in the 1970s - it seems misinformation they spread (that formula is superior to breast milk) is still going strong, generations later. I didn’t realise that the boycott was ongoing & that they had recently been criticised for adding honey to baby food too.

Sorry but this is ridiculous, nobody has said breast isn’t best but that lots of things are best for babies and children and breast v formula is but one of many parenting choices. This choice has been blown hugely out of proportion in comparison to other decisions far more worthy of scrutiny.

The misinformation, hostility and scaremongering is towards formula.

Imanautumn · 11/12/2025 12:11

I breastfed for years, and I wouldn’t have an issue either way, your baby, your choice, most important thing for babies is to have a happy mum, and these people’s comments don’t help at all. Ignore them.

SouthLondonMum22 · 11/12/2025 12:15

Allswellthatendswelll · 11/12/2025 11:54

That's a very sad case but clearly a very particular set or circumstances and the woman went against clear medical advice. It's completely deranged to say that that is a likely outcome for breastfed babies or that breastfeeding is dangerous.

Babies are very delicate and can develop issues for all sorts of reasons. DS was born with severe hypoglycaemia and being on a feeding regime of formula saved his life or at least stopped him from being brain damaged. Then we switched to EBF when he was a week old and he completely thrived. So I'm not anti formula at all but I am pro supporting breastfeeding and completely anti wacky misinformation.

Edited

She was following medical advice, that is the whole reason why the fed is best foundation exists.