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CountingDownToAutumn · 09/12/2025 15:27

This will be long so please bare with me.

I’m currently pregnant with my fourth child and as I’m hitting the third trimester I’m starting to get really anxious about the newborn period. Particularly my mother during the newborn period. I see her at least once a week so she can see the children and while I’d say things are generally ok, that also has a lot to do with me not rocking the boat.

The problem is she can be very overbearing, cannot tolerate not having her own way and will fly of the handle or flounce if she doesn’t like something. This is usually manageable but when there’s a newborn it goes to a completely new level! Examples;

Dc1; Would not accept that I did not want her in the room when I gave birth. After months of wearing me down she guilted me into it by saying her best friend’s daughter had her in the room when she had her grandchild and it was a lovely experience for her friend.
Tried to take newborn ds of my ex a couple of minutes after he started having his first hold in the delivery room. When he politely said he’d like a bit longer first she flounced. I called her an hour later just for her to shout at me about how she felt pushed out by ex.
Ds had reflux and before we changed his milk would not sleep and scream for hours. After around 48 hours of nobody getting any sleep I’d finally got him down for an afternoon nap. She called informing me she was on the way with my dad. I begrudgingly agreed but asked her not to pick him up as he needed sleep. She started pouting and disappointedly complaining until I gave in.
Invited various family members over to my house to meet the baby when I wasn’t up to visitors.
And the one that still makes me furious when I think back to it… first proper outing with ds in the pram at a few days old. We got out of the car and immediately she takes the pram off me shouting ‘my pram’ and starts pushing it. I let her do it because I didn’t have the energy for the hassle and think I’ll have a go later. She pushes the pram the entire time. At the last shop I’m paying at the till and as we leave to go back to the car I take the pram. We’ve barely made it outside and yet again she takes it off me shouting ‘my pram’. This time I say I’d like a go now and she flies off the handle, marches ahead of me all while screaming behind at me that ‘she wants the best bits’ and that she ‘won’t be left with just the shit’.

Dc2; The newborn period was a bit more of a blur. The two instances that stand out are her bringing ds1 to visit the baby in hospital. He has ASD and Global developmental delay so was non verbal at the time and needed constant supervision. She got so sidetracked by the baby that she repeatedly ignored him to fuss the baby. This resulted in me panicking as he tried to get in the discarded medical sharps bin. I couldn’t move to get him as I had a catheter.
She put a lot of pressure on me for her to take baby dd for the day at around two weeks old. I’d kept brushing it off hoping she’d get the hint that I wasn’t ready but she’d paint it as me being able to give my undivided attention to ds. Making me feel awful for wanting to refuse. I spent the entire day anxious and miserable.

Dc3; I had needed a large piece of furniture assembled for a while and my dad had agreed to do it. It ended up being that the day he scheduled happened to be the day after she was born. What usually would happen is my mum would drop my dad over and pick him up when he was done as he can be quite slow (likes to make sure a job is done properly). Not this time! She spent nine hours planted on the sofa, only leaving to collect her friend so the friend could also see the baby. She held the baby the entire time, if I so much as tried to have a turn holding her she’d get twitchy and take her back. Dd was very mucus-y after birth and this would come up in feeds. She fed her and this happened. Next feed she originally said she wouldn’t do it as she was nervous only to say ‘actually I want to do it, give her to me’ about five seconds after the bottle hit her mouth. When she eventually left she placed dd in her basket and as she was leaving I went to pick her up. She turned to me and had the nerve to say ‘don’t, she’ll be spoilt and expect it all the time’. So it was ok for her to hold my day old baby all day but heaven forbid I actually want to give her a cuddle! Then I’m spoiling her! I actually took up breastfeeding at that moment because there was a family event a few days later I had to attend and I couldn’t tolerate the thought of my mum holding her the entire time again.

So on to now. Pregnant with dc4. This baby has a different father to my first three. My ex can be quite a meek man. If he does react it will be snide so it often went over my mother’s head. Dp is far more forthright and if he feels someone is pushing his boundaries will be upfront about it. This will not go down well with my mum. He’s already pushing for us to have the first week just ourselves as he/we feel the children will need time to adjust. I brought this up to my mum and she shouted that she ‘just won’t bother then’. My sister has also mentioned people having time just themselves after birth to her in the past and she replied that she wouldn’t listen and would turn up regardless of what we said. My sister also fell out with her on several occasions leading up to the birth of her child and after.

I’m so anxious about this. I don’t want another recently postpartum period of her taking over/being demanding. I don’t know how to get her to understand how she acts has consequences on my mental health. I don’t want to fall out with her, it’s hell but if she goes about this birth the way she has with the previous childrens it will happen regardless because dp wont put up with it!

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LadyDanburysHat · 09/12/2025 15:36

Hold your boundaries and let her flounce. Allow yourself to feel no guilt when she throws her toys out of the pram.

rainbowunicorn · 09/12/2025 15:37

Sorry OP but if she was my mother she wouldn't have seen the 2nd and 3rd grandchildren after her behaviour with the pram and the first. She sounds completely unhinged. I wouldn't be having that behaviour anywhere near my kids.

putthehamsterbackinitscage · 09/12/2025 15:43

You’ve said your do is forthright and wants time as a family… tell him your worries and let him support you by taking charge and blocking her access in the early days.

she will make all sorts of threats about cutting you off - but that is what they are - threats to manipulate and control you.

stand together and stand firm - your growing family is what matters!

GrumpyInsomniac · 09/12/2025 15:43

Let your DP have your back on this and let your mother fume if need be. You know that if you don’t stand up to her you will have yet another tale of horror to add to the first three: you owe it to yourself and your DP and all of your kids to stand up to her and finally set some boundaries.

Let her throw her toys out of the pram. She will be the one missing out and the only way to have a more healthy relationship is to push back on the batshit.

Helpwithdivorce · 09/12/2025 15:43

I’d leave your partner to deal with her. Let her flounce. Let her fall out with you. Once she realises you’re not budging she will stop. You give in to her all the time so she thinks she’ll get her own way. Show her that this time it isn’t happening. If she turns up send your partner to tell her to go away and shut the door in her face

lazyarse123 · 09/12/2025 15:44

I never usually agree with keeping family away from newborns but in this case I think you have to. She has ruined every newborn experience for you and it's time to stop.
It's good you have a partner who will stand up to her nonsense. If she flounces and says she won't come take that as a win and enjoy the peace.
I can't believe you caved on letting her be at the birth that's just mental. Not trying to be mean but you need to start standing up to her.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 09/12/2025 15:47

If my mum was like that, I’d move and leave no forwarding address. Keep her away from you all post-partum, this is not ok on any level.

readingmakesmehappy · 09/12/2025 15:47

She sounds awful. Put the boundaries in place now and hold to them. Is your dad any help?

SweetBaklava · 09/12/2025 15:48

rainbowunicorn · 09/12/2025 15:37

Sorry OP but if she was my mother she wouldn't have seen the 2nd and 3rd grandchildren after her behaviour with the pram and the first. She sounds completely unhinged. I wouldn't be having that behaviour anywhere near my kids.

Absolutely this!!!! She sounds completely and utterly bonkers. Let your DP do the gate keeping for you after baby arrives. What does your dad make if this behaviour?

ridl14 · 09/12/2025 15:48

Thank goodness for your partner, OP. I'd say either invite her to the hospital visiting hours (I liked this, defined times and limited how long people can stay as well) with your partner present to manage any BS or just have your week without her. Let her flounce - she's used to doing it and getting her way. I'm sorry she's affected every other postpartum period you've had. Enjoy your baby and congratulations!

QforCucumber · 09/12/2025 15:52

Do you use her for childcare much with the older 3 now?

BettysRoasties · 09/12/2025 15:54

If your dh is willing let him play the bad guy regarding the week. Plan her visits so they are only when he is there.

But you do need to grow a back bone yourself. You’ve three children and yet let her treat you like the child.

Sahara123 · 09/12/2025 15:55

Jeez is it too late to move several hundred miles away …. Or perhaps another country!
I am hoping your partner is going to be able to fend her off.
My daughter gave birth to our first grandchild 2 weeks ago, and much as I’d like to be round there every day cuddling the baby I completely accept that the 3 of them are the most important thing now, whatever they need, I’ll be there , but they are a little family now.

Moggies3 · 09/12/2025 15:55

Let your DP handle her
He sounds as though he's already had enough of her shit and is laying down some rules
If you allow her to undermine you, take over etc then she'll do it
Personally I would have told her to fuck off with her selfish and disrespectful behaviour after the first one
But that's just me 🤷‍♀️

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 09/12/2025 15:56

It isn’t healthy for your kids to be exposed to your mother without clear boundaries and consequences. What would you say to your kids if someone was treating them the way your mother is treating you. I think I would let your new partner to help you keep your mother in line and see if you can work out a new way for your relationship to work for you all. If you don’t want to go nuclear start small and I would suggest making her visits less often so she isn’t so entitled. Good luck I am sure it isn’t easy as you grew up dealing with your mother and being trained to deal with her.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 09/12/2025 15:57

Let her fly off the handle. Let her flounce. These are her ways of controlling you, so let her get on with it.

kimonok · 09/12/2025 15:59

Stop. Giving. In.

Let her react however she reacts, and prioritise your baby and what you need to do.

If she turns up having been told not to, get your DP to go out and tell her to go home. He is not to take no for an answer.

You need to start asserting your boundaries properly.

FuzzyWolf · 09/12/2025 16:01

I would leave your DP to keep the boundaries you want in place and enjoy your first week or so as a family without your mother interfering.

CountingDownToAutumn · 09/12/2025 16:08

Dp knows about her previous behaviour and knows I’m really anxious about it. He’s happy to step in if my mum becomes difficult. It’s another reason why he’d like to enforce the week to ourselves rule. It’s difficult because not only would my mum hit the roof and as much as I’d like to say I’d ignore it and let her, it’s easier said than done. It’s also dp’s first child and it’s the first grandchild for his parents. I’d feel awful keeping them away when they are generally respectful and so beyond excited. If my mum ever discovered she’d been kept away for a week and they’d seen the baby i’d never hear the end of it. I also know exactly what my mum would do. She’d be under the impression that I’d never exclude her like this of my own violation or due to her behaviour (she can never see that she’s done anything wrong) so therefore I must be being controlled. She’d tell everyone who would listen that my relationship was controlling before the week was out.

With my dad it’s difficult. He will admit that she can be difficult but in the same breath he will make excuses for her behaviour. It doesn’t help that she ‘remembers’ things very differently to how they happened. I used to think I was going mad. Eventually my sister came over to referee me and my mother trying to sort out a disagreement. My mum flew off the handle immediately and my sister spent the whole time telling her that she’d promised to keep a cool head and talk instead of shout. As my sister was a witness my mum couldn’t tell my dad the edited version and I finally realised there was no point in trying to ‘win’ with her.

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FatCatPyjamas · 09/12/2025 16:18

Kindly, she only behaves like this because she knows you'll always cave. 15 years ago I had a DM similar, but she behaves herself now. It wasn't easy, but after 4 months of "training" and 18 months of sulking on her part, she now knows she'll get sent away if she behaves badly. It was so frightening for me to say the first few "no's", but I quickly learned that her tantrums and flounces didn't lead to catastrophe. Life is much more peaceful, now.

Good luck.

CountingDownToAutumn · 09/12/2025 16:20

Sorry I missed the childcare question! No she doesn’t do any childcare and truthfully I’m completely ok with that!

When I was pregnant with Ds she really wanted to have him for me to go back to work. This lasted around two months before she decided she couldn’t. Ds was a very high needs baby/toddler and I understood that she was struggling with his needs. I quit my job. Then the second was born with even more complex needs (she’s in a stf school and will require life long care). I don’t trust anyone other than her dad to look after her. Now there’s three and the routine is she sees them usually at least once a week but I have to be there. It’s for hers and the children’s benefit mainly. She loves them and wants to spend time with them and they do love her so I facilitate it.

What I do struggle with is her throwing a strop if I can’t commit to her schedule. Woe betide their dad having them on a day she wanted to see them! I get phone calls where she’ll go on about how she ‘hasn’t seen them in ages’ and sometimes her ‘jokingly’ asking why he has to have them at all!

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TeatimeForTheSoul · 09/12/2025 16:22

It sounds like your DH is are at a point where you have to choose:

  • do you allow you ‘D’mother to rule over you all again and placate her temper tantrums
  • or do you put your DP and yourself first, accept she’ll throw a tantrum but you will survive it
PevenseygirlQQ · 09/12/2025 16:28

Say no OP, if you keep relenting she’ll keep acting the way she does. Stand firm and she’ll soon learn, if she doesn’t then thats on her, she’ll be the one missing out. This is your life not hers, she’s had her kids, don’t let her ruin this for you x

Dontlletmedownbruce · 09/12/2025 16:28

I think you could be tactical here. Tell her you want one week to yourselves and this rule is for everyone. Let her make a fuss. Then tell her you could make an exception for a special visit from her on day 5 but just for two hours and would that be OK. She will jump at it.

This relationship sounds so much like my Mum and Gran. My Mum never really stood up to her although I'm sure she tried. You have to keep trying, it's extremely difficult but hopefully DP will support you.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2025 16:31

@CountingDownToAutumn This was particularly hard to read:

'She put a lot of pressure on me for her to take baby dd for the day at around two weeks old. I’d kept brushing it off hoping she’d get the hint that I wasn’t ready but she’d paint it as me being able to give my undivided attention to ds. Making me feel awful for wanting to refuse. I spent the entire day anxious and miserable.'

Your mother is supposed to love and support you. She is utterly selfish, self-centred, completely lacking empathy and obviously thinks that she has as much right to your children as you do. What would she do if you were breastfeeding? I bet she would still insist on taking the baby away from you.

I would have cut contact after all the incidents you have listed. Let your DP advocate for you as he sounds as though he has got the measure of her and will not accept any of her nonsense.