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Stepdaughter’s bedroom at Christmas

735 replies

Balletbabe · 06/12/2025 15:18

My 14 year old stepdaughter has an en-suite bedroom at our house which she uses maybe two or three nights a month.. This room is sacrosanct and DH won’t entertain conversations about it.

Essentially she will not allow my mother to use it over Christmas even if she isn’t here.

My sister is with her in-laws.

We either put my daughter in with our youngest two, or bring baby back in with us. Either of these solutions would potentially lead to sleep regression for both the younger kids. Or we travel for just under an hour to my mother’s, taking kids away from their presents and she will then feel the need to host us.

We still have no idea if stepdaughter is even going to be here.

All DH will say is he wouldn’t want anyone in his room either and he is willing to collect her after presents and she could get Uber back.

OP posts:
rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:04

Balletbabe · 06/12/2025 18:12

My stepdaughter is 14, my daughter is 13,

The younger two are not in a position to offer their room to their grandmother as they are nearly 4 and 11 months. They do not have beds that would be suitable for my mother anyway.

My elder daughter I think will go in with younger ones on a makeshift bed while my mother has her single bed but there is no en-suite. she does not have any additional needs. I have no idea where people got that from.

Meanwhile there is a double bed and en-suite with potentially no one in it. Utterly ridiculous.

Stepdaughter’s mother’s family are not Christian culturally and are atheist/agnostic. Christmas is not resonant to them as it is to me. Stepdaughter however does have a belief.

Stepdaughter does not know what she is doing as they are waiting to see if one of her grandparents is well enough to travel to a house they have in Europe.

You’ve said your eldest could go in with one of the younger ones and then your mum can have her single. This sounds ok right??everyone has a bed and step daughter can come and go if needed.

nobody needs an en suite. You said mum doesn’t have any additional needs so she can use the family bathroom. It’s only a couple of nights.

I know you’re annoyed but the stepdaughter probably feels more protective of her space as it’s not her main home.

edited for typo

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:04

snoopythebeagle · 06/12/2025 18:20

Then OP's children can muck in for their granny, can't they?

OP’s children don't have an en suite.

I’d absolutely dig my heals in here, OP.

I am the oldest and had the biggest room in the house. I always moved to the box room over Christmas and whenever else adult relatives visited. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to try and say no and if it had my parents would’ve rightly ignored me.

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:06

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:04

You’ve said your eldest could go in with one of the younger ones and then your mum can have her single. This sounds ok right??everyone has a bed and step daughter can come and go if needed.

nobody needs an en suite. You said mum doesn’t have any additional needs so she can use the family bathroom. It’s only a couple of nights.

I know you’re annoyed but the stepdaughter probably feels more protective of her space as it’s not her main home.

edited for typo

Edited

Why should be en-suite lie unused in case a child visits instead of it being utilised by an adult? Utterly mad. The kids give way to the adults.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:09

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:06

Why should be en-suite lie unused in case a child visits instead of it being utilised by an adult? Utterly mad. The kids give way to the adults.

Maybe I’m just not fussed about en suites?!

I just think it’s an option that keeps everyone happy. We don’t yet know if step daughter will be there so OP will need a few ideas.

also mum is less than an hour away - does she need to stay?

puppymaddness · 06/12/2025 21:10

CheeseIsMyIdol · 06/12/2025 20:59

Then someone needs to ask her: "Are you coming for Christmas or not, and which days? because we expect a visitor and could use your room if you won't be there."

Fourteen-year-old children don't get to dictate household arrangements and how their parents receive guests.

(the husband is a whole separate problem.)

because we expect a visitor and could use your room if you won't be there."

well I definitely wouldn't say this part!!

But yes they should ask her to make up her mind and let them asap as they need to make plans,

Frenzi · 06/12/2025 21:13

One of my DD's had an ensuite. If friends came to stay she bunked in with her sister and they had her room.

SD or not, its the rules of the house.

InterIgnis · 06/12/2025 21:15

IIRC you may be using it as the marital home, but it’s still very much his house. It doesn’t really matter if you or anyone else thinks him unreasonable or not, he’s said no. So figure something else out.

SheilaFentiman · 06/12/2025 21:16

puppymaddness · 06/12/2025 21:10

because we expect a visitor and could use your room if you won't be there."

well I definitely wouldn't say this part!!

But yes they should ask her to make up her mind and let them asap as they need to make plans,

OP has stated that it’s dependent on what another relative of DSD’s is doing. It’s not DSD being indecisive.

Stepdaughter does not know what she is doing as they are waiting to see if one of her grandparents is well enough to travel to a house they have in Europe.

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:16

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:09

Maybe I’m just not fussed about en suites?!

I just think it’s an option that keeps everyone happy. We don’t yet know if step daughter will be there so OP will need a few ideas.

also mum is less than an hour away - does she need to stay?

She might not need to but what’s wrong with her wanting to?

I can’t imagine expecting an adult to share a family bathroom with three kids and two adults whilst a child has her own instead of appointing that room as the adult visitor’s. Actually, I couldn’t imagine making my older relatives share a bathroom with five others now whilst I had an en-suite.

puppymaddness · 06/12/2025 21:17

SheilaFentiman · 06/12/2025 21:16

OP has stated that it’s dependent on what another relative of DSD’s is doing. It’s not DSD being indecisive.

Stepdaughter does not know what she is doing as they are waiting to see if one of her grandparents is well enough to travel to a house they have in Europe.

Oh right I missed that bit . Well I guess it's just wait and see then,

Ddakji · 06/12/2025 21:19

snoopythebeagle · 06/12/2025 20:00

You do like to make incorrect assumptions, don't you?

I stay there occasionally because it's easier for my job sometimes and saves me a long journey on rural roads - if that's okay with you? 😂

Edited

Fine by me. I’ve done the same. Difference is that because I’m a grown up I was staying in a guest room at my mum’s, like any other guest would.

InterIgnis · 06/12/2025 21:19

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:06

Why should be en-suite lie unused in case a child visits instead of it being utilised by an adult? Utterly mad. The kids give way to the adults.

Because the adult whose house it is has said no.

The kid doesn’t have to give way to OP.

Youdontseehow · 06/12/2025 21:20

MrTiddlesTheCat · 06/12/2025 15:51

Same. Saying no wasn't an option. I remember one year my brother slept in the bath.

Sleeping in the bath is a new one!

but yeah, we got booted out our beds as kids and never even thought to question it. It was all part of the fun of Xmas.

flibbertygibbet5 · 06/12/2025 21:33

BeaRightThere · 06/12/2025 20:58

She is being nasty about the daughter. Who gets limited time with her father, who clearly loves her and wants her to feel welcome in his house. He spent 62k on an extension so that she could have her own space so clearly this is extremely important to him.

The poster that was quoted didn’t even mention anything directly about the dd, it was all about the father.

Obviously he should make his daughter feel welcome and create a home that fits everyone comfortably. But it seems like the stepdaughter is getting a lot of special treatment and being treated favourably. As I’ve said, if she’s there for Christmas it isn’t clear cut. If she’s not then it’s ridiculous to make others uncomfortable when there’s an empty room sat there unoccupied. It’s really pretty obvious imo.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:33

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:16

She might not need to but what’s wrong with her wanting to?

I can’t imagine expecting an adult to share a family bathroom with three kids and two adults whilst a child has her own instead of appointing that room as the adult visitor’s. Actually, I couldn’t imagine making my older relatives share a bathroom with five others now whilst I had an en-suite.

Didn’t say anything was wrong with it. Just thinking of solutions/ideas for the OP!

it’s only a couple of nights. It’s good to hear everyone’s ideas though- everyone has different views and experiences

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:41

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 21:33

Didn’t say anything was wrong with it. Just thinking of solutions/ideas for the OP!

it’s only a couple of nights. It’s good to hear everyone’s ideas though- everyone has different views and experiences

Indeed. It’s only a couple of nights.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 06/12/2025 21:52

Settings11111111 · 06/12/2025 21:41

Indeed. It’s only a couple of nights.

That's what gets me. She's not being asked to permanently give up her room. She's being asked to act like a family member and cede her room to an older guest for a couple of nights. It's unhealthy to raise a child to think that such a situation is infringing on her rights or somehow denigrating her.

If her MH issues are so bad that giving up her room to her father's mother-in-law for a couple of festive nights is traumatizing, they need to urgently prioritize therapy.

ThisLittlePony · 06/12/2025 22:01

CheeseIsMyIdol · 06/12/2025 21:52

That's what gets me. She's not being asked to permanently give up her room. She's being asked to act like a family member and cede her room to an older guest for a couple of nights. It's unhealthy to raise a child to think that such a situation is infringing on her rights or somehow denigrating her.

If her MH issues are so bad that giving up her room to her father's mother-in-law for a couple of festive nights is traumatizing, they need to urgently prioritize therapy.

Do you also think op should have urgent therapy @CheeseIsMyIdol? Given her level of jealousy and self reported floods of tears if the dsd and half sister do anything with dads side of the family without op’s dd?

CamillaMcCauley · 06/12/2025 22:01

CheeseIsMyIdol · 06/12/2025 21:52

That's what gets me. She's not being asked to permanently give up her room. She's being asked to act like a family member and cede her room to an older guest for a couple of nights. It's unhealthy to raise a child to think that such a situation is infringing on her rights or somehow denigrating her.

If her MH issues are so bad that giving up her room to her father's mother-in-law for a couple of festive nights is traumatizing, they need to urgently prioritize therapy.

It’s not mentally unwell, that’s a ludicrous exaggeration. It’s about her feeling that something belongs to her and is special to her and she shouldn’t have to share it if she doesn’t want to.

“Go on, give Gran a few sips from your drink, you might not finish it anyway!”
”Isabel, let your stepsister wear your favourite dress to a party, you’re not planning to wear it that night.”
“Why can’t you just hug your uncle, you’re being rude!”

Children and teenagers are allowed boundaries, even when those boundaries mean adults aren’t going to get their way.

ThisLittlePony · 06/12/2025 22:05

Absolutely @CamillaMcCauley but best not stop the wonderfuly kiiinnnd mnetters rejoicing in sticking the boot into this child! Maybe they’re the ones who need therapy!

snoopythebeagle · 06/12/2025 22:11

Ddakji · 06/12/2025 21:19

Fine by me. I’ve done the same. Difference is that because I’m a grown up I was staying in a guest room at my mum’s, like any other guest would.

Good for you, I guess? 👍

Hankunamatata · 06/12/2025 22:13

Balletbabe · 06/12/2025 15:41

I wouldn’t want to move the baby. Both stepdaughter and three year old would be happy together but three year old has a toddler bed that my mother couldn’t fit in.

So buy proper adult size bed for baby/toddler/3yr old room and your mum can sleep in that.

I do get why dh wants to keep the room. He barely gets to see dd, its a difficult age anyway where none resident parent see less of their teens.

If this is ongoing then review how rooms are allocated and consider swapping rooms about so dsd doesnt have the ensuite.

SheilaFentiman · 06/12/2025 22:20

flibbertygibbet5 · 06/12/2025 20:46

No she’s being nasty about the dh which is appropriate given his ridiculous behaviour. Anyone who would let a child sleep on the floor when there’s a free room available is not a kind father or stepfather. He needs to show his dd that she’s part of the family by treating her the same way as the rest, not giving her such blatant special treatment at the expense of the other dc, his wife and wider family.

Edited

There is also the option for OP’s DD to sleep downstairs:

There isn’t a bed for my mother if she can’t use my stepdaughter’s unless my elder daughter sleeps downstairs or on a mat in with the younger two

Or for OP to take the baby back into her room, as she states in the first post.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 06/12/2025 22:26

ProudPearl · 06/12/2025 15:28

Why don't you and your DH sleep on a blow up bed in the lounge and give your mother your room? Or DH on the sofa and you share with your mum? Why is it only your stepdaughter who can give up her room?

Because she is the only one with two beds and two bedrooms and will be sleeping in her other bed and bedroom for the duration of the visit.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 06/12/2025 22:27

Hankunamatata · 06/12/2025 22:13

So buy proper adult size bed for baby/toddler/3yr old room and your mum can sleep in that.

I do get why dh wants to keep the room. He barely gets to see dd, its a difficult age anyway where none resident parent see less of their teens.

If this is ongoing then review how rooms are allocated and consider swapping rooms about so dsd doesnt have the ensuite.

We did this: our toddler in full sized bed early to increase options for guests. Works well.