To start a conspiracy theory thread about the pyramids?

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Do you believe the pyramids or The sphinx were built by the ancient Egyptians?
I’m just watching Egypt’s Secret code and Bradley Walsh isn’t accepting this theory, my husband believes it was Aliens.
I don’t know what I think really, please discuss, Share your thoughts.

The highly developed civilisations that had technology but were wiped out is quite a common theory aided by ai pictures which apparently aren't ai but reality. 🤔Tartarian mud floods IIRC were part of it.
I also have a theory that as a whole population our IQ is in reverse and we are getting less intelligent.

I watched a documentary in the 90’s that showed how they believe they moved the blocks. It took a hell of a lot of manpower and a lot of deaths occurred but it made perfect sense. For the life of me I can’t fully remember how though 😅

I’m sure there is something else in regards to the actual places they were built. Number wise. I’ll have to have a Google and get back because I can’t remember fully.

Science wise it could be done. But I also love the conspiracy theories with the pyramids.

Neuroscientists have been studying the brains of people who believe in conspiracy theories. They found they often process information differently. Their brains show slightly lower activity in areas linked to flexible, critical thinking, which can make random events seem like hidden patterns. Conspiracy theorists aren’t the geniuses they think they are, but their brains are wired to mislead them basically.

Some of you may be terribly disappointed to read this:
https://aeraweb.org/great-pyramid-quarry/

There were massive quarries right next to the pyramids. They got the blocks into position using ramps they built out of sand and mud.

Not in this article, but they made those 'impossible' precision cuts by inserting small wooden wedges along the line they wanted to cut, then trickling water onto the wedges. The wood expands and the stone splits.

You can find videos of people doing this, plus there's a quarry with one massive block abandoned before it was fully removed. You can see the little indents along the split side, where the wedges were drilled in. They would have sanded off the indentations afterwards.

I would definitely be very bothered by being married to someone dimwitted enough to believe such conspiracist bullshit. It's not that believing in this one specific bit of nonsense causes anyone any direct harm, but it would make me question his general sanity and judgment on everything else as well.

There's also an actual account of moving blocks of fine limestone to Giza for Khufu's pyramid. From Google:

The Diary of Merer (or Wadi al-Jarf Papyri) consists of the oldest known inscribed papyri, discovered at Wadi al-Jarf, detailing the work of an official named Merer during the 4th Dynasty (c. 2570-2566 BC) under Pharaoh Khufu. Written in Hieratic script, these logbooks document Merer's crew transporting fine limestone blocks from Tura quarries to Giza for the Great Pyramid's construction, revealing logistics, organized labor (not slaves), daily routines, and crew names, offering a rare, firsthand glimpse into pyramid building's operational side.

Key Details about the Papyri

• Discovery: Found in caves at Wadi al-Jarf on Egypt's Red Sea coast by a French archaeological mission led by Pierre Tallet.
• Age: Dates to the 27th year of Khufu's reign, around 2570–2566 BCE, making them the oldest written papyri ever found.
• Author: Merer, an inspector (middle-ranking official) in charge of about 200 men.
• Content: A daily logbook (logistical diary) describing the transportation of building materials, specifically fine white limestone, by boat from Tura to Akhet Khufu (Giza).

What the Diary Reveals

• Logistics: Detailed records of boat movements, work schedules, and supply routes along the Nile.
• Labor Force: Shows workers were organized into teams with names (e.g., "Escort Team of 'The Uraeus of Khufu Is Its Prow'") and received rations (bread, meat, beer, dates).
• Not Slaves: Confirms the workers were skilled laborers, not slaves, humanizing the massive project.
• Leadership: Mentions Khufu's half-brother and chief architect, Ankhhaf, connecting the diary to key figures.
• Timekeeping: Shows the application of the Egyptian calendar in daily work.

Significance
The Diary of Merer provides concrete, day-to-day evidence of the meticulous organization and management behind the construction of the Great Pyramid, offering invaluable insights beyond royal decrees or grand architectural plans.

Nothing is more idiotic than a conspiracy theorist.

Yep, her husband is a racist. Awful.

The Ancient Madonna With The Big Boobies?

This. It’s racist drivel. And I say that as a massive sci-fi fan and Stargate watcher. I can separate entertainment from historical fact, though.

Oh come on, anyone who has seen how fast good clinical practice yielded to ideaology where gender distressed children are concerned will have a healthy skepticism towards any supposed "experts" now

How did such an advanced civilisation collapse?

What you are all falling into is the ‘Great Pyramid Existence Conspiracy’.

• Husband has a view and thinks it was aliens.
• Bradley Walsh has some AI images and uses mummies and other stuff as props
• You’re no convinced

What the real issue is - is that THERE ARE NO PYRAMIDS. It’s mathematically impossible for 3D triangles to exist. I know it. The carving bits are a smokescreen.

…. slowly puts on tin foil hat and creeps back into my cave….

Just because your husband doesn’t understand something does not mean it’s not possible!
I don’t really understand how the internet, chemotherapy or planes actually work but I do not attribute them to magic or aliens as a result.

There is a fabulous podcast series called More Like Ancient Failiens which debunks ancient aliens claptrap.

stonehenge is going to blow your mind

Aliens with the technology to travel across many lightyears came here to carve some stones...? Then leave again without leaving any trace of this technology or anyone in the civilisation that was really big on writing, writing about them. OK.

I'm assuming your husband has no idea how long it takes to travel from other galaxies. Even if you could travel faster then the speed of light, you would need to accurately map everything in space and be able to tell where it is going to be at any given point or you would crash into it before you could see it. Anything is slightly out of place and it would tear through your spaceship like a hot knife through butter.

You're comparing apples with parsnips there. The two are not related. Of course historians and archaeologists will get things wrong and have their own biases; this doesn't mean they aren't working from actual evidence as opposed to woo nonsense that says aliens did it

Inbreeding and invasion.

These kinds of conspiracy theories are fundamentally based in racism/white supremacism as people who don't want to acknowledge cultural and technical prowess in non-caucasian civilisations make up outlandlish theories to help them to continue their racist mindset. I don't expect everyone who then subsequently believes the conspiracy theories is guilty of the same racism, you don't have to be racist to be a bit dim.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/egyptian-pyramids-new-studies

As is being hyper individualistic "I don't need anyone telling me what to do" types, thus they can't comprehend that when large numbers of humans work collaboratively we can achieve stuff impossible for a single human working alone.

All over the planet things were carved and built out of big rocks. It's pretty obvious it was all done by local humans societies. It just takes a lot of people a lot of time, so there has to be a point. This is really what we don't understand - the why they wanted to.

The reason we can't do it now is because no one can get enough people who want to, and have the time to do it. Its usually 5 historians and some local reenactment groups over a weekend.

Think of UK cathedrals - no one thinks they were built by aliens, but they took hundreds of years to build. Now it would be impossible to organise that too, but we all understand it could be done if we wanted to.

I feel like I'm alone in not being particularly bothered about how the pyramids were built and not finding them particularly noteworthy.

Just look at all the churches and cathedrals we have in the UK. Built long before the industrial revolution, in tiny poverty stricken villages.

Many advanced societies have collapsed in the past. Often seems to be because they were so successful - they get bigger and bigger and more people, and then there's a slight change in the weather, the rains don't come when expected..

I love reading archeology and ancient history. Shame no one else seems to, there are lots of lessons for a modern society to learn 😬