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Doctor lying on report..

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Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:27

So I've sent a very blunt email with threats to report to the ombudsman and GMC after appointment with specialist.. Long story short - Shoulder trauma injury, felt shoulder pop out and tear. Still no improvement after 21 weeks, unable to lift arm out any further than 30 degrees. Extreme impact on quality of life

I've been to multiple appointments and four physio sessions (referred by doctor.) Last one was extremely dismissive and actually lied in the report. Physio wrote a letter suggesting he thought I had a paralysed muscle, muscle wastage and nerve damage. Doctor completely wrote that of as he "doesn't trust that physio" because he doesn't specialise in my kind of injury... Why send me there and waste two whole months then?! He told me I was holding my arm down.. it's completely deformed, as mentioned above, I felt it like pop out and it was instantly lower.

He lied on the report saying
*I could touch my thumb to my lower lumbar spine which was an outright lie. I can't get my arm to rotate backwards at all.
*He noted there was no muscle wastage - my shoulder is pretty much skin and bones, there has definitely been a massive amount of wastage.

  • noted no weakness of rotator cuff. I'd say not being able to lift my arm out any further than 30 degrees indicates a significant amount of weakness?

I've written a complaint email to the pals team noting that I'm going to complain to the ombudsman and GMC and will even go down the legal route if a delayed diagnosis leads to further problems/permanent paralysis.

I asked for a second opinion and they've just booked me back in to see the same doctor.. fastest response and appointment offer I've ever recieved I might add.

Am I being unreasonable to ask again for a second opinion from a different doctor?
I'm still going to attend the one with the same doctor and have said I'm requesting to be able to audio record this next appointment so any discrepancies can be properly noted with no denial. I'm also requesting for the report to be changed.

I believe the reason he said all of the lies as mentioned would be to downplay my injury to avoid having to take the reasonable steps to treat me properly? He referred me to a rehab saying they'd give me a diagnosis on my first appointment and he'd trust everything they say. They phoned to book my appointment and told me that the doctors massively lie and act like they're some kind of miracle workers. They said they're essentially just another physio and they wouldn't be able to give me a diagnosis.)

I've honestly just had enough, I'm going to have to pay to go private.. maybe our NI and Tax should be a thing of the past, or massively dropped as we obviously aren't recieving what it's all advertised to be. 🙄

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wordywitch · 04/12/2025 13:32

I wouldn’t be wasting time going to see the same doctor again unless you just want to give him an earful. Better to demand to see a different doctor and lodge a complaint against this one, he’s clearly got a god complex amd thinks he knows best so will likely just wind you up. I’m sorry you’ve had such shoddy treatment and I hope your arm improves soon.

Nicemugsmrs · 04/12/2025 13:32

Have you had proper diagnostics ?

it took me a year to get an ultrasound on my shoulder after I injured it which diagnosed torn tendons which were not picked up on the x rays that were done at the time of injury.

I had been sent to physio before the ultrasound and the exercises were making the injury worse.

I would push for a firm diagnosis as physio cannot be effective and could be damaging without that.

Surgery fixed my injury eventually.

vincettenoir · 04/12/2025 13:33

You sound hyperbolic and angry. But I can tell you’re in an extremely stressful situation. I hope things turn a corner for you soon.

calkel · 04/12/2025 13:34

What would be his motive for downplaying the injury so he didn’t have to treat you properly? Thst makes no sense. It’s his job?

Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:34

@JC19827 The physio has done all he can do, there's nothing a physio can do to fix an arm that has no ability to do what they want it to do. He said the should at the minimum offer to do nerve testing to see how buggered they are. I'm told something different every time I'm seen.. impingement, nerve damage, torn rotator cuff, burstitis, tendinopathy, thinning of subscapularis. I honestly have no trust and can't see any light at the end of the tunnel anymore.

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Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:36

@JC19827 they bloody well did! My impression on it would be that they're pissed off with being referred patients that they cannot help?!

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SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 13:37

OP you'll be torn to shreds here - apparently we have to be grovellingly grateful for the shit NHS we pay a fortune for.

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Yes i agree there is no way a physio would risk their own professional reputation by telling a patient that a Doctor lied.

Bambamhoohoo · 04/12/2025 13:37

Presumably the doctor was pissed off the physio tried to diagnose something?

what or who is this report for?

x2boys · 04/12/2025 13:38

Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:36

@JC19827 they bloody well did! My impression on it would be that they're pissed off with being referred patients that they cannot help?!

The actually said Doctors lie ?
In those words ?

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Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:39

@wordywitch I want to hold him accountable for his blatant lies and I'm also requesting that he changes my medical record. I have already lodged the complaint, I'm in contact with the pals team

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Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:41

I'm not going to lie about what the rehab lady said.. also not going to argue with anyone on here saying otherwise. They lied to me about what the rehab would be able to do, she reiterated that to me.

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Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:42

@JC19827 Yes, showed tendinopathy, burstitis and thinning of the subscapularis

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Shoeshone · 04/12/2025 13:42

What kind of dr is this? Have you seen an orthopaedic consultant yet?

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NeedyLemonCat · 04/12/2025 13:43

Have you actually seen a shoulder surgeon or not?

You sound hard work. Good luck with that GMC referral and recording appointments 😂

Anon662120622 · 04/12/2025 13:44

@shoeshone he is an orthopedic consultant

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Dontyoulooktired · 04/12/2025 13:44

Have you had a nerve conduction study? (also checks for muscle wastage).

Who is the specialist? Are you under pain management who can refer for nerve testing etc?

Bambamhoohoo · 04/12/2025 13:44

OP I’ve just realised your Op is actually “aibu to ask for a second opinion”- this isn’t a big deal at all, totally common place and no drama. Obviously if it’s a specialist it might be tricky to arrange but if it’s a GP it’s BAU.

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DoNotDisturb67 · 04/12/2025 13:45

Can you go private for second opinion?? If you current GP is not meeting your needs and it takes ages via NHS to get anything sorted, given that you’re in pain and need resolution asap, private might me the way 🤷🏼‍♀️

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 04/12/2025 13:45

I had this injury. I couldn’t lift my arm or put it behind my back or over my head.

It was eventually diagnosed as a neck nerve issue. I had some physio which really helped ( he was a specialist nerve physio-through the nhs😲). He said it would go away eventually. And it would take about 2 years.

It did go away, then the other side went.