To think its scary how messed up and horrible some people are?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4q9pxyv7go.amp

Poor women having to deal with him.
Is there any point to his life.
Dosent seem like he wants to live himself?

When we get depressed remind ourselves we are lucky we are not him.
Should he have the right to end his life if wants to though?

I wonder if his parents go and see him or any family?

Someone in the care and legal responsibility of the authorities can not be allowed to kill themselves, no.

Yes I think he should have the right to end his life if he wants to and has capacity. I'm not sure he does have capacity though.

Personally I believe that everyone should be able to end their lives if they choose to. But overwhelming public opinion is that emergency services, prison staff, and healthcare workers shouldn’t just shrug their shoulders and tell them to get on with it (and legally, those professionals owe a duty of care which prevents them doing so, even if those who want to end their lives have a criminal conviction, or are mentally unwell, or just obnoxious and troublesome.)

He is a very mentally unwell man. Female shouldn’t be expected to tackle a man like that. Instead large and strong male nurses.
I have the same opinion about women prisons officers - especially young naive ones.

he should be put in a straight jacket and kept in a padded cell.

He probably is a lot of the time. But that’s not an effective way to manage him. These professionals know what they’re doing. Of course it’s still high risk dealing with someone like him and things go wrong

This!

The issue is, where does this end?

The Southport killer is a disgusting piece of shit, and should be locked away for life.

But when it come to people who are mentally ill (as this man must be, to be in Broadmoor), does the line get drawn at people who are mentally ill and offend? What about people with chronic depression who want to die? Or people with health issues that mean they won’t work? Where does it cross from this into something else?

I don't agree when 'things going wrong' means loss of a life. Keep him locked up where he cannot harm anyone, sedating him wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Do we know if he ACTUALLY cannot control any aspect of his behaviour? Whether he can or not, he is a danger to society and I cannot see any justification for keeping him alive.

No, but they should be allowed.

Agreed. Let him. No loss to anyone

Why do we have to accommodate him?

The whole point of human rights is that everyone has them. If the criteria is amended to “rights for humans except the humans whom the government decides shouldn’t have rights” we’re into a snowstorm.

Valuing human rights doesn’t mean being supportive of those who commit crimes, but recognising that the government of the day defining who they believe is worthy of life is a bad idea.

I don’t give a single shit how lonely he is.

They raised him.

I think it’s time parents started being held accountable for outcomes.

But he planned it, so he has some control. There was a recording of a therapy session where he said he wanted to throw someone off a building - one year before he acted. And the day before he was at the Tate, he googled killing people and whether his autism would have an impact on sentencing. He has huge culpability for this.

This. He should never have been on jolly nice days out with the general public.

This, has he ever said why he wanted to do something malevolent?
if he says again he’d like to damage or kill other people what then?

If a poster posted that her partner had attacked her by kicking her in the thigh and clawing her face and someone tried to stick up for him by going on about his mental health problems , well they would be riasted.
Yet this man has dud this to two women and it's "oh he's really mentally ill". Noone knows that, firstly psychopathy is a personality disorder and nowhere in the article does it say anything else apart from needing his current mental health condition assessed

I think because he's part of the human condition.

We have geniuses such as Einstein and Musk, and heros such as the guy who stopped the Huntingdon train stabber, sorry just first examples that came to my mind. They're examples of how great humans can be. They're outliers in a positive sense. Developmentally speaking, every brain evolves differently- we take the good. On the other hand, there will be unfortunate people such as JB who develop brains that lead them to actions such as his. Basically, his brain is fucked. He's got the totally shitty end of the evolutionary stick. So, I think yes he should be accommodated. He's a part of the human race. And by accommodated I mean locked away forever. I dont think we can just kill him. He disgusts and scares me, but he's part of us.

Just my opinion- I'm not explaining very well.

Musk is in no way an example of how great humans can be. In fact he is probably far closer to JB than the general population in terms of personality and ND.

I’m talking about his treatment whilst he’s at broadmoor. He is locked up. The suggestion was a padded cell and I said that is probably how he does spend most of his time.

things have gone wrong because he’s had the opportunity to assault staff, but he’s such a high risk patient unfortunately that’s not going be entirely preventable

I dont think he's a great person morally speaking. He sounds like a massive cunt. I'm just saying he's highly intelligent. His brain is an example of the best that we can be intellectually speaking. J's the opposite. 2 sides of the same coin, how our brains work and develop.