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To think it is not at all sad that the Women's Institute is now only for actual women?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/12/2025 11:36

“Incredibly sadly, we will have to restrict our membership on the basis of biological sex from April next year,” Green said. “But the message we really want to get across is that it remains our firm belief that transgender women are women, and that doesn’t change.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/03/womens-institute-no-longer-accept-trans-women-members-april

Tellingly - they still think women can have a penis.

Women’s Institute will no longer accept trans women as members from April

Exclusive: CEO says decision taken with ‘utmost regret and sadness’ after supreme court ruling on definition of a woman

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/03/womens-institute-no-longer-accept-trans-women-members-april

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ThatCyanCat · 06/12/2025 14:54

LarkspurLane · 06/12/2025 14:33

Just got booted out of an Anti Reform group online for questioning a person who said that the WI should allow people of all genders. I asked if it would need to change its name in that case, got called a transphobe and while I was thinking of a reply, was booted out of the group.
I am not a Reform supporter (far from it) but it's so silly that this issue seems to over ride all others in terms of different views. I'm sure if I'd said I was a staunch Brexiteer, or am ardent Tory but still anti-Reform, they would have let me stay.

I tried to join a group a few years ago for a creative pursuit that's less than fuck all to do with sex or gender. They were trying to keep it private and not too large. A few questions for entry, and one of them was "do you accept that transwomen are women?"

I guess they can have whatever conditions they like for a private group but of all the irrelevant purity tests they could have landed on... that was the favourite?

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 16:06

ThatCyanCat · 06/12/2025 14:54

I tried to join a group a few years ago for a creative pursuit that's less than fuck all to do with sex or gender. They were trying to keep it private and not too large. A few questions for entry, and one of them was "do you accept that transwomen are women?"

I guess they can have whatever conditions they like for a private group but of all the irrelevant purity tests they could have landed on... that was the favourite?

Chosen precisely because 1. Forcing people to demonstrate willingness to mouth absurdities reveals who is willing to submit to authority and 2. Because most still see women's safety, privacy, dignity, and preference as things that should rightly be sacrificed to maintain the correct hierarchy of subordinate women and prioritised men.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 06/12/2025 18:21

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/12/2025 12:20

Disagree. I clocked a transwoman walking in front of me in a group of women all dressed in the same uniform. His gait and body shape was very obviously male in contrast to the actual women.

I passed them and looked back to check and his voice and face also confirmed that he was male.

You may also have passed transwomen that you did not clock because you thought they were women.

itsthetea · 06/12/2025 18:21

Well I would be happy if they would accept all genders ( and none) as long as they were all female

in fact if the world was more tolerant of all genders a lot of this nonsense would disappear

differnece gender and personality ? I think personality is totally unique whereas gender is about belong to a group and being at pains to advertise that you are in that group

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 06/12/2025 18:23

This idea that all transwomen are close to passing is fucking bizarre. It just doesn't reflect reality.

Not all are close to passing. No-one is arguing that. I am just saying that you have no way of knowing if you do pass a passing transwoman in the street. Or indeed if you spot someone you think is a transwoman but is in fact a woman, unless you go and ask them or something.

RedToothBrush · 06/12/2025 18:30

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 06/12/2025 18:23

This idea that all transwomen are close to passing is fucking bizarre. It just doesn't reflect reality.

Not all are close to passing. No-one is arguing that. I am just saying that you have no way of knowing if you do pass a passing transwoman in the street. Or indeed if you spot someone you think is a transwoman but is in fact a woman, unless you go and ask them or something.

Oh give over.

ThatCyanCat · 06/12/2025 18:50

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 06/12/2025 18:23

This idea that all transwomen are close to passing is fucking bizarre. It just doesn't reflect reality.

Not all are close to passing. No-one is arguing that. I am just saying that you have no way of knowing if you do pass a passing transwoman in the street. Or indeed if you spot someone you think is a transwoman but is in fact a woman, unless you go and ask them or something.

So what?

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:00

I feel so utterly sorry for trans kids and teens. What on earth must they be thinking?That they don’t belong anywhere. Lives will be lost. I hope JK Rowling is proud of herself. Thd crowing and glee is vile, just vile.

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:05

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:00

I feel so utterly sorry for trans kids and teens. What on earth must they be thinking?That they don’t belong anywhere. Lives will be lost. I hope JK Rowling is proud of herself. Thd crowing and glee is vile, just vile.

blame stonewall and mermaids and the BBC and schools and society in general for jumping on the trans train back in 2015-2018 and for telling lies to children.

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:08

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:05

blame stonewall and mermaids and the BBC and schools and society in general for jumping on the trans train back in 2015-2018 and for telling lies to children.

And so it goes on, just vile.

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:10

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:08

And so it goes on, just vile.

find something genuine to complain about and leave girls and women alone please. Your disdain for girls and women is vile. The grift is over now though, thank goodness.

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:11

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:10

find something genuine to complain about and leave girls and women alone please. Your disdain for girls and women is vile. The grift is over now though, thank goodness.

You really don’t care do you.

medievalpenny · 06/12/2025 19:11

I don't like bullies.

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:11

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:11

You really don’t care do you.

oh I care very very much and have seen firsthand the appalling damage this ideology has done and is doing. Don’t presume to second guess whether I care or not.

britneyisfreebutnotokay · 06/12/2025 19:13

Men everywhere always trying to sneak in. I didn’t get it before but I see it now. I’d never ever try and join a men’s group. Wouldn’t occur to me. I joined a women’s writing group (women in the name of the group) only to discover another fucking man. Just leave us alone, bad enough some of us have to live with one!

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:13

truthsayers · 06/12/2025 19:11

oh I care very very much and have seen firsthand the appalling damage this ideology has done and is doing. Don’t presume to second guess whether I care or not.

You don’t care. It’s clear. I’m a woman and I have a daughter. The trans community has done nothing to hurt us, nothing.

RedToothBrush · 06/12/2025 19:13

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:00

I feel so utterly sorry for trans kids and teens. What on earth must they be thinking?That they don’t belong anywhere. Lives will be lost. I hope JK Rowling is proud of herself. Thd crowing and glee is vile, just vile.

There's no such thing as a vegan cat.

Distress through puberty is normal. Most child desist. And even if they are distressed there is no reason why their distress is for other people to deal with at their own distress.

Being inclusive requires you to acknowledge the issues of all parties. This does not equal validation.

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:15

RedToothBrush · 06/12/2025 19:13

There's no such thing as a vegan cat.

Distress through puberty is normal. Most child desist. And even if they are distressed there is no reason why their distress is for other people to deal with at their own distress.

Being inclusive requires you to acknowledge the issues of all parties. This does not equal validation.

Yeah whatever.

climbintheback · 06/12/2025 19:16

I don’t care - my new mantra replacing ‘let women speak’

RedToothBrush · 06/12/2025 19:17

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:13

You don’t care. It’s clear. I’m a woman and I have a daughter. The trans community has done nothing to hurt us, nothing.

To you personally perhaps.

Others on this thread would disagree.

Shedmistress · 06/12/2025 19:17

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:00

I feel so utterly sorry for trans kids and teens. What on earth must they be thinking?That they don’t belong anywhere. Lives will be lost. I hope JK Rowling is proud of herself. Thd crowing and glee is vile, just vile.

You feel sorry that we want kids to grow up happy, healthy and without lifelong medical interventions and early onset diseases caused by cross sex hormones and without being sterilised and mutilated? Gosh.

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:17

climbintheback · 06/12/2025 19:16

I don’t care - my new mantra replacing ‘let women speak’

You don’t speak for all women.

RedToothBrush · 06/12/2025 19:17

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:15

Yeah whatever.

Your arrogance is spectacular.

ThatCyanCat · 06/12/2025 19:18

S1ngS1ng · 06/12/2025 19:00

I feel so utterly sorry for trans kids and teens. What on earth must they be thinking?That they don’t belong anywhere. Lives will be lost. I hope JK Rowling is proud of herself. Thd crowing and glee is vile, just vile.

Oh look, someone trying to emotionally blackmail and moralise women (they recognise us) into giving up their rights. Never seen that before.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 19:19

ThatCyanCat · 06/12/2025 19:18

Oh look, someone trying to emotionally blackmail and moralise women (they recognise us) into giving up their rights. Never seen that before.

Kind of nostalgic, feels like 2018 again.

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