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My best friend of nearly 20 years and I have fallen out

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Mondura · 02/12/2025 14:04

a long one..

My friend and I have known each other for 17 years. We both live in the UK. We’ve had a wider friendship circle since our twenties when we met but ppl move away and their lives end up going in different directions so it's not a strong group of friends anymore. I’d say she’s been a constant, supportive presence in my life throughout these years and we’ve never fallen out until a couple of months ago. I’m not even sure how things got to this point. She is turning 40 soon (a few months before me) and together with a third friend we were trying to organise something to celebrate her birthday. We all had some ideas, put them in the group chat but she decided she just wanted something simple, like going away to a cottage, just the three of us, have a few drinks, dinner, stay a night or two and just chat, laugh relax, etc. Great, nothing complicated or so I thought. Our third friend and I suggested a country pub with rooms which we’ve both been very impressed by previously, it had other locations in the UK, great service, lovely atmosphere, we were very keen to make the most of it. Our third friend sent some links and she highlighted some of the rooms have two beds, she’ll try and find maybe a family room, but can’t see a cottage on the grounds with multiple rooms. Fine, nothing has been decided and I said I’m happy to take a separate room maybe next to them and don’t mind the extra cost if they prefer sharing the two-bed one. We’ve known each other for a long time, all three of us know that I can afford a bit more in life in general. It hasn’t always been the case, we worked hard for the money we have, run a business, take risks etc. that’s not to say, they are poor, they can both afford luxury holidays, meals out, lovely clothes etc, so none of these things have ever really been an issue. My friend, the birthday girl, didn’t reply to my suggestion to book two rooms, we were all in a rush to do things that morning anyway, we knew it wasn’t going to be finalised so just left it. She then sent another link to the chat a few days later with an Airbnb link for another, cheaper cottage. We all liked it, lovely place, location, great! I was going away a few days later but was keen to finalise something for my friend so we'd have it locked in the calendar and had this short getaway to look forward to so instead of packing and getting myself organised, I prioritised this trip and started my morning looking into booking this. I told them that I’m happy to advance the payment and they can just transfer it later, I just wanted to look through the listing again to make sure it’s all to our liking and needs and I’m ready to book it. My friend messaged back that it’s fine and if it’s ok if she transfers her share the following month. I said ok. Then I was looking for the room configuration on the listing which was a bit hard to figure out, but I found it and it was a cottage with two double bedrooms and a living room with a sofa (not pull out). I sent in a screenshot with the caption “this one only has two bedrooms”. This is where things kicked off. She seemed to have gotten really upset and replied that I should just find another one then. I didn’t reply as I sensed that she was upset. We generally text or call each other almost every day, often multiple times a day, so I can read between the lines, she was not happy. I said I can look for something else, but not until I come back from my upcoming trip a week later so we can park this for now if that’s what she wants. She then messaged again saying it’s best to cancel the whole thing, all of us have different needs, she doesn’t want to go away any more, just a simple dinner is fine. I didn’t reply, because I was busy getting myself ready, I was already short on sleep and had a lot to do, I didn’t want to engage in discussing it further. It was clear that the booking wasn’t going to go ahead then. So I didn’t respond, she then private messaged me and said the same thing that it’s best to not go ahead at all with the plans. It’s her call of course, but then I replied saying I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s fair to now just shut it all down when we’ve all planned so much and looked forward to this ( took forever to find dates that suited us all). We were ready to book and it sounded like the ‘everyone has different needs’ is aimed at me as if my needs were too much. I said I don’t mind looking for a bigger cottage and I’ll just pay the difference for the third room if that’s the issue as it’s no problem for me. I was very polite and I tried to come up with a solution though I didn’t really understand why she got so agitated so suddenly. She then became pretty abusive saying she knows I can afford it, I rub this under their noses all the time. Last time when our other friend sent a link, I also told them I can afford a separate room for myself and that’s it’s not cool and I should really have a think about how I communicate because I come across entitled. I was shocked and started crying. I was totally oblivious to this if it was the case and really I thought I'm just booking a trip for my best friend and doing my best to be flexible.I scrolled back in the messages to see if I was rude or what exactly I said but I genuinely just stated that I don’t mind going for an extra room for myself. She knows I’m an awful sleeper, I send her screenshots of my sleep stats often and we analyse it together, I usually need a dark, quiet room and although we have shared rooms and even bed together in the past, I’d rather pay for my comfort levels approaching our 40s if we can afford it. Clearly her main issue was not me wanting a separate room, but it was deeper than that. It just seems she never expressed these to me. I stopped responding. I saw her last message later on where she says I’ve been the one person who is closest to her in the past 20 years and that she loves me, sort of like a half-assed apology where she probably realised how overboard she went. But I just couldn’t continue writing anything after all this and I had a lot to do that day anyway. I shouldn't have started the day with this booking as I had a lot on. She then tried to ring me in the afternoon and again in the evening, but I was on the school run in the afternoon, then took a sedative for the night (I don't often do this), but I had to calm down somehow and it was important that I had a good night's sleep before an early start to my flight. Over a week went past and I didn't contact her. In fact I muted her chat and the other chat too, which had all three of us in originally as I just couldn't deal with the drama plus I was away with my daughter, I didn't really have time to myself to dive into this whole 'who said what and why' saga.I also didn't want this to ruin my time away with my daughter though it definitely overshadowed it. I cried a lot at night or when she couldn't see me. I also didn't really know what to write tbh. I don't often post on social media, so whenever I snap pictures of what I do, where I am, what I eat etc, I just send a few to some selected friends and my husband. So this friend would've in normal circumstances received a lot of pics from my trip away, but I just had such a block in me. She said I rub things under her nose, so I didn't want to send her a pic of us sitting at the airport lounge. On arrival we went out of dinner to a new spot she actually specifically talked about before. I didn't want to send pics of the food. What if we spent too much? Would that be rubbing it under her nose? Suddenly everything I did felt like I was in the wrong and I was no longer able to share my life with her, because who knows what else I'd done in the past which was too much for her to handle? So I basically just parked this whole thing in my mind to deal with later and tried to enjoy my time away. A few days after getting back home, she messaged me again asking if I cared to discuss what happened at all. I replied politely and told her that I don't really know what to say and it still hasn't settled enough in me plus I'm busy catching up on life and work after returning from my trip (which she knew the length of) She said we should meet in person to discuss, but I told her I genuinely don't have time to know go out in the evening for this as I've only just got back and my other daughter terribly missed me and I just generally have a lot on. She became very accusatory again especially about the fact that I didn't respond at all for nearly two weeks (she said two weeks, it was a week and a half) and somehow I ended up reading more of how I did something wrong and how bad she felt during this time and that I shouldn't have just disappeared like that. I tried not to take offence, but it seemed a bit harsh from someone who was trying to mend things. So I told her I felt bad too, I just couldn't bring myself dealing with what she said as I feel like I can't be myself with her anymore. We try to text now regularly, but it's somewhat forced. It feels very awkward and I don't enjoy sharing anything with her. We got our car stolen a few months back and we recently got a brand new, better car and she was very interested in it previously. The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose. She then stopped replying for a few days. I reached out afterwards to meet in person finally in the hope that I'd feel differently about her or I don't really know what I expected really. We met and I don't think we discussed anything in more detail or better just because we were face to face. There was some crying, but mostly we just both tried to make the other one understand why we are hurt. We left, I texted her again the next day and we messaged since, but it's not the same. It's awful actually. I'm only texting out of some obligatory feeling. I lost a very good friend over such a stupid thing and I can't believe it's happening. We have a few things in the calendar lined up, which we haven't discussed. We take turns spending Christmas lunch at each others every year and it's their turn to host this year. We have shows booked and our children are similar ages, they are good friends and we always maintained that they see each other regularly. I think she wants the friendship to continue, but something has broken between us and I guess I can keep going like this; in a forced, uncomfortable manner but I'm looking for advice on how to get past it and feel free and comfortable again spending time with her. Right now I always just feel like any moment I can say or do something that constitutes entitled and will cross her boundaries over what is or isn't allowed. If she wasn't important to me, I could just let this all go, but I'm really struggling to let my hurt and anger, but mostly sadness go away so we can just be happy friends again planning our next adventure.

OP posts:
nomas · 02/12/2025 22:11

Morecoombe · 02/12/2025 22:00

What is the TLDR please?

  • 3 person girls' trip planned for friend 1's 40th birthday
  • friends 1 and 2 happy to share a room
  • friend 1 suggested a two bed cottage
  • OP kicked off at no 3 bed cottage
  • friend 1 got upset at OP being showy
  • friend 1 asked OP about OP's new car
  • OP told friend 1 new car is too expensive to discuss
  • friend 1 went quiet and now lukewarm to OP's advances
SweetBaklava · 02/12/2025 22:11

Sorry I gave up 🫠😴

Stucknstoopit · 02/12/2025 22:11

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 14:23

Next time you have trouble sleeping in a shared room, read your post back 😴😴😴

Lololololol 🤣🙌🏼🙈🤯🫣
oh bless you @Mondura , I couldn’t read it all, too long but also boring as hell.

I hope you manage to get the cute little puppy out of the well in time to celebrate Christmas or whatever it was you said.

joking aside, have you guys got nothing else to worry about than a circular conversation about how many rooms and sleep stats?

Stucknstoopit · 02/12/2025 22:12

nomas · 02/12/2025 22:11

  • 3 person girls' trip planned for friend 1's 40th birthday
  • friends 1 and 2 happy to share a room
  • friend 1 suggested a two bed cottage
  • OP kicked off at no 3 bed cottage
  • friend 1 got upset at OP being showy
  • friend 1 asked OP about OP's new car
  • OP told friend 1 new car is too expensive to discuss
  • friend 1 went quiet and now lukewarm to OP's advances

It’s even more dull when you précis it.

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/12/2025 22:13

Littlewiseone · 02/12/2025 21:12

Here’s what’s actually going on underneath all that chaos — because this is NOT about a cottage, a bedroom configuration, or even money. This is a classic friendship rupture triggered by something symbolic, not the practical issue itself.

Let me break it down clearly and compassionately.


What’s going on for the friend? (Not the poster — the friend)

  1. There is deep, unspoken resentment that has been building for YEARS

Her reaction makes zero sense in proportion to the “trigger” (the cottage with two bedrooms).
That tells you the trigger is not the cause — it’s the excuse.

The friend has:

Unprocessed feelings about money differences

And probably the power balance within the friendship

Mixed with turning 40 (identity, comparison, life evaluation)

Mixed with general emotional dysregulation

She’s been holding these feelings privately, and they finally burst out in an ugly, misdirected way.

This is why the reaction was:

Sudden

Disproportionate

Personal

Accusatory

And then followed by shame and panic

Classic emotional spillover.


  1. The friend is actually envious and ashamed — and projecting

Her line "you rub it under our noses" is pure projection.

Here’s what projection looks like:

I feel insecure about something

I don’t want to admit that

So I accuse YOU of causing my discomfort

She is struggling with:

Comparing herself to the poster financially

Feeling “less than” (even if she actually isn’t)

Fear of being left behind socially or lifestyle-wise

Turning 40 and evaluating her own life choices

The “separate room” became a symbol of:

independence

capability

financial comfort

adulthood

growing apart

And that terrified her.


  1. She felt “outgrown” and panicked

Her identity is tied up in this long friendship.

When the poster:

handled booking smoothly

offered to pay upfront

calmly suggested taking a separate room

…it triggered something like:

> “She doesn’t need me anymore. She’s in a different league. She’s outgrowing me.”

And instead of saying:

> “I feel insecure and weird about this.”

she said:

> “You’re entitled and showing off.”

That’s how insecurity often expresses itself.


  1. The friend then experienced shame — which made everything worse

The initial explosion was emotional insecurity.

Afterwards came shame:

She knew she was unreasonable

She knew she hurt her friend

She panicked when the poster went quiet

People in shame do ONE THING: They double down and attack again.

Because if they admit they were wrong, they must face the deeper insecurity that caused it.


  1. The poster’s withdrawal triggered abandonment fears

When the poster muted the chat and went quiet, the friend panicked because:

She expected immediate soothing

She wanted the poster to reassure her

She needed the relationship re-stitched RIGHT AWAY

She was terrified the poster was truly done

But the poster needed distance to regulate (which is healthy).
The friend interpreted that as rejection.

So she became:

demanding

accusatory

self-pitying

dramatic

This is classic anxious attachment behaviour.


  1. This is not about the cottage — this is about life stage shifts

Friendships built in your 20s often wobble around 40 because:

finances differ

lifestyles diverge

children change social dynamics

people subconsciously “compare lives”

birthdays trigger self-reflection

the friendship roles shift and no longer match the past

She is grieving the old dynamic where:

you were equals financially

shared rooms

lived similar lives

relied on each other daily

She felt the poster “moved on” without her, even though that isn’t true.


  1. There is also a strong element of control

The friend wanted:

simplicity

emotional closeness

predictable dynamic

The moment the plan became slightly more complicated, she lost control and threw the grenade.

People who subconsciously want control often lash out when they feel:

out-paced

outgrown

or “less needed.”


  1. The poster’s response (silence, withdrawing, being careful) unintentionally reinforced her insecurity

The friend already felt:

“less than”

like the poster had more money, more ease, more choices

So when the poster said:

> “I won’t tell you about the car because I don’t want to rub it in”

The friend heard confirmation of her deepest fear:

> “You ARE too much for me. We ARE different now. You DO think you’re better.”

That’s not what the poster meant, but that’s how an insecure person hears it.


So what is the REAL diagnosis?

This is a mix of:

✔️ **Financial insecurity (hers)

✔️ Fear of being outgrown
✔️ Turning-40 identity wobble
✔️ Long-term friendship role shift
✔️ Anxious attachment/panic
✔️ Shame → anger → shame cycle
✔️ Unspoken resentments that finally erupted**

This is not about:

the cottage

the room

booking timing

cost differences

Those are symptoms.
The cause is deeper and emotional.


Can the friendship be repaired?

Yes — but ONLY if:

**1. The friend is willing to admit insecurity (she might not be)

  1. The poster stops walking on eggshells
  1. They reset the friendship dynamic as equals — not rescuer vs. rescued
  1. They acknowledge that life stage differences exist without shame or comparison
  1. They move slowly and gently rather than forcing closeness**

Right now, the poster is trying to:

protect the friend’s feelings

manage her reaction

avoid upsetting her

be “careful”

That dynamic will kill the friendship if it continues.


The path forward

If this were the poster asking, I’d recommend:

Step 1: Stop apologising for who you are

No more:

“I don’t want to rub it in”

“Sorry I didn’t reply instantly”

“I won’t mention the car”

That strengthens the wrong narrative.

Step 2: Have a gentle but clear boundary

Something like:

> “I love you and value you. But I can’t walk on eggshells.
I want us to feel comfortable being ourselves again — both of us.
I don’t want money or rooms or logistics to represent something they’re not.
When something bothers you, I need you to tell me calmly, not explode.
And in return, I’m open to hearing anything you feel.”

Step 3: Don’t over-share until trust is rebuilt

Just keep things warm but light for a while.

Step 4: Accept the friendship has changed

Not ended — just evolved.
Once you accept that, the pressure lifts.

Step 5: Let her manage her insecurities — they are not yours to solve


TL;DR

The friend is not angry about the cottage.
She is having a 40th-birthday-life-comparison-insecurity meltdown, projected onto the poster.

The fallout is the result of:

emotional flooding

shame

fear of being left behind

resentment about perceived financial inequality

and panic that the friendship dynamic is shifting

This is fixable — but only if the poster stops carrying the responsibility for the other woman’s insecurities.

Good grief! You're pleased with yourself aren't you.

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 22:15

nomas · 02/12/2025 22:11

  • 3 person girls' trip planned for friend 1's 40th birthday
  • friends 1 and 2 happy to share a room
  • friend 1 suggested a two bed cottage
  • OP kicked off at no 3 bed cottage
  • friend 1 got upset at OP being showy
  • friend 1 asked OP about OP's new car
  • OP told friend 1 new car is too expensive to discuss
  • friend 1 went quiet and now lukewarm to OP's advances

Yeah, you forgot the whole:

"OP ghosted her friend whilst on holiday, in the original post on here made digs to about not daring to post anything about her holiday, in a passive aggressive way"

and

"OP's friend still persisted in making contact, OP met with her, continued sulking"

Also, "OP a bit shady about how this whole thing started"

Namechangerage · 02/12/2025 22:16

Jesus. I read as far as her sending a cottage with 2 bedrooms and you not liking it? Why? It was her birthday treat no??

Loloj · 02/12/2025 22:17

bloody hell I could not read all the way to the bottom but got about 2/3rds of the way.

Its sounds as though you have carried on the drama by not being available to talk or address the fall out - massive drama over not a lot. Sounds like she said things she shouldn’t have said but probably wanted to apologise. You have then ignored her / been unavailable and it’s cause the whole thing to blow into something that could have just been nipped in the bud.

Looociee · 02/12/2025 22:19

Why did you say this?

I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose

I was kind of with you until then.

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 22:20

Looociee · 02/12/2025 22:19

Why did you say this?

I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose

I was kind of with you until then.

OP said it because she was being snitty and petty.

Swiftie1878 · 02/12/2025 22:22

Yeah, you’re quite the bitch in this scenario really.
She was upset, but you made it all about you (and probably make a habit of this by the sound of it).

Ghosting a friend you have upset is unkind.

GilmoreGirly86 · 02/12/2025 22:22

So I made it through all that and could definitely see things from your side until "The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it. I told her I think it's best not to analyse it as the new car is too expensive and I don't want to rub anything under her nose." This is petty and immature on your part. She had gone out of her way to ask about it (and herself had probably wondered whether she should bring it up or not but didn't want to ignore something significant that you'd spoken about previously) and you shut her down, and not for the first time. Incredibly childish from you and if I was her, I would have been done with you at that point. This doesn't paint a good picture of you, as well as the several times you mentioned "you can afford it" in your post - I would think I'm not the only one who can see a little of what your friend was talking about. Kindly OP, a long hard look in the mirror might be in order.

qaz1qaz · 02/12/2025 22:23

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 14:23

Next time you have trouble sleeping in a shared room, read your post back 😴😴😴

😂😆

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 22:26

"The car arrived after our fall out and she casually asked what it's like to drive it.

Also - "casually"? You really are a piece of work, OP.

The poor woman was just trying to make some neutral conversation to try and get your friendship back on track. But no, you have to read something into it 🙄

VayKayShun · 02/12/2025 22:28

It feels like she over reacted and is now trying to repair things and go back to normal, and she asks something like 'how's the new car' and rather than saying oh yeah it's great, or it takes a bit of getting used to or whatever, you tell her it's far too expensive you can't talk about it because you don't want to rub her nose in it?! What a tw@ttish thing to say!
Just from reading the post it feels like you're always reminding them how you're happy to pay more which I think would be draining. Especially as you've said they can easily afford luxury holidays yet you take every opportunity to remind everyone how you can afford just that bit more.

nomas · 02/12/2025 22:32

Stucknstoopit · 02/12/2025 22:12

It’s even more dull when you précis it.

🤣

beAsensible1 · 02/12/2025 22:38

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 21:24

JFC will people please STOP!!! doing ChatGPT nonsense that adds nothing, is often just wrong, and is often EVEN FUCKING LONGER than the OP's original post!!

😡

Honestly.

as if we need more infinite scroll ai slop!

Wheretoholiday71 · 02/12/2025 22:39

Littlewiseone · 02/12/2025 21:12

Here’s what’s actually going on underneath all that chaos — because this is NOT about a cottage, a bedroom configuration, or even money. This is a classic friendship rupture triggered by something symbolic, not the practical issue itself.

Let me break it down clearly and compassionately.


What’s going on for the friend? (Not the poster — the friend)

  1. There is deep, unspoken resentment that has been building for YEARS

Her reaction makes zero sense in proportion to the “trigger” (the cottage with two bedrooms).
That tells you the trigger is not the cause — it’s the excuse.

The friend has:

Unprocessed feelings about money differences

And probably the power balance within the friendship

Mixed with turning 40 (identity, comparison, life evaluation)

Mixed with general emotional dysregulation

She’s been holding these feelings privately, and they finally burst out in an ugly, misdirected way.

This is why the reaction was:

Sudden

Disproportionate

Personal

Accusatory

And then followed by shame and panic

Classic emotional spillover.


  1. The friend is actually envious and ashamed — and projecting

Her line "you rub it under our noses" is pure projection.

Here’s what projection looks like:

I feel insecure about something

I don’t want to admit that

So I accuse YOU of causing my discomfort

She is struggling with:

Comparing herself to the poster financially

Feeling “less than” (even if she actually isn’t)

Fear of being left behind socially or lifestyle-wise

Turning 40 and evaluating her own life choices

The “separate room” became a symbol of:

independence

capability

financial comfort

adulthood

growing apart

And that terrified her.


  1. She felt “outgrown” and panicked

Her identity is tied up in this long friendship.

When the poster:

handled booking smoothly

offered to pay upfront

calmly suggested taking a separate room

…it triggered something like:

> “She doesn’t need me anymore. She’s in a different league. She’s outgrowing me.”

And instead of saying:

> “I feel insecure and weird about this.”

she said:

> “You’re entitled and showing off.”

That’s how insecurity often expresses itself.


  1. The friend then experienced shame — which made everything worse

The initial explosion was emotional insecurity.

Afterwards came shame:

She knew she was unreasonable

She knew she hurt her friend

She panicked when the poster went quiet

People in shame do ONE THING: They double down and attack again.

Because if they admit they were wrong, they must face the deeper insecurity that caused it.


  1. The poster’s withdrawal triggered abandonment fears

When the poster muted the chat and went quiet, the friend panicked because:

She expected immediate soothing

She wanted the poster to reassure her

She needed the relationship re-stitched RIGHT AWAY

She was terrified the poster was truly done

But the poster needed distance to regulate (which is healthy).
The friend interpreted that as rejection.

So she became:

demanding

accusatory

self-pitying

dramatic

This is classic anxious attachment behaviour.


  1. This is not about the cottage — this is about life stage shifts

Friendships built in your 20s often wobble around 40 because:

finances differ

lifestyles diverge

children change social dynamics

people subconsciously “compare lives”

birthdays trigger self-reflection

the friendship roles shift and no longer match the past

She is grieving the old dynamic where:

you were equals financially

shared rooms

lived similar lives

relied on each other daily

She felt the poster “moved on” without her, even though that isn’t true.


  1. There is also a strong element of control

The friend wanted:

simplicity

emotional closeness

predictable dynamic

The moment the plan became slightly more complicated, she lost control and threw the grenade.

People who subconsciously want control often lash out when they feel:

out-paced

outgrown

or “less needed.”


  1. The poster’s response (silence, withdrawing, being careful) unintentionally reinforced her insecurity

The friend already felt:

“less than”

like the poster had more money, more ease, more choices

So when the poster said:

> “I won’t tell you about the car because I don’t want to rub it in”

The friend heard confirmation of her deepest fear:

> “You ARE too much for me. We ARE different now. You DO think you’re better.”

That’s not what the poster meant, but that’s how an insecure person hears it.


So what is the REAL diagnosis?

This is a mix of:

✔️ **Financial insecurity (hers)

✔️ Fear of being outgrown
✔️ Turning-40 identity wobble
✔️ Long-term friendship role shift
✔️ Anxious attachment/panic
✔️ Shame → anger → shame cycle
✔️ Unspoken resentments that finally erupted**

This is not about:

the cottage

the room

booking timing

cost differences

Those are symptoms.
The cause is deeper and emotional.


Can the friendship be repaired?

Yes — but ONLY if:

**1. The friend is willing to admit insecurity (she might not be)

  1. The poster stops walking on eggshells
  1. They reset the friendship dynamic as equals — not rescuer vs. rescued
  1. They acknowledge that life stage differences exist without shame or comparison
  1. They move slowly and gently rather than forcing closeness**

Right now, the poster is trying to:

protect the friend’s feelings

manage her reaction

avoid upsetting her

be “careful”

That dynamic will kill the friendship if it continues.


The path forward

If this were the poster asking, I’d recommend:

Step 1: Stop apologising for who you are

No more:

“I don’t want to rub it in”

“Sorry I didn’t reply instantly”

“I won’t mention the car”

That strengthens the wrong narrative.

Step 2: Have a gentle but clear boundary

Something like:

> “I love you and value you. But I can’t walk on eggshells.
I want us to feel comfortable being ourselves again — both of us.
I don’t want money or rooms or logistics to represent something they’re not.
When something bothers you, I need you to tell me calmly, not explode.
And in return, I’m open to hearing anything you feel.”

Step 3: Don’t over-share until trust is rebuilt

Just keep things warm but light for a while.

Step 4: Accept the friendship has changed

Not ended — just evolved.
Once you accept that, the pressure lifts.

Step 5: Let her manage her insecurities — they are not yours to solve


TL;DR

The friend is not angry about the cottage.
She is having a 40th-birthday-life-comparison-insecurity meltdown, projected onto the poster.

The fallout is the result of:

emotional flooding

shame

fear of being left behind

resentment about perceived financial inequality

and panic that the friendship dynamic is shifting

This is fixable — but only if the poster stops carrying the responsibility for the other woman’s insecurities.

You have SERIOUSLY over analyzed the friend.
Id imagine friend wanted a simple girlie getaway for HER 40th...op and another friend suggest a pub, op states she has the money to pay for a seperate room so she can book her own room (maybe the friend who's birthday it is would like her own room but op has only thought of herself) so they'll book 2 rooms...op will have her own.
Then the friend who's 40th it is suggests a cottage that she would like...you know for HER birthday...and op replies saying it only has 2 rooms so she will try find something bigger and she can pay for the extra room...the 2 rooms at the pub were fine for op because she was going to have her own, but the 2 rooms at the cottage weren't because well basic manners would mean the friend who's birthday it is would have been given her own room and op would need to share.

With the amount of times op has referenced how she can afford things in the original post she is insufferable to me and I dont even know her. Im happy with my lot and have no money worries, but I cant stand people who are similar but feel the need to boast.

Anyway friend tried to sort the situation out almost immediately, op ghosted her, then made snarky comments about not 'analysing" her new car because it was too expensive when her friend attempted to ask a genuine question about a new car.

The friend is not the problem here...

wineosaurusrex · 02/12/2025 22:39

You sound like you think you're better than everyone and that you constantly find ways to bring it up. Your comments about your piles of money annoyed me and i don't even know you!

And it sounds like you're super dramatic too. Just discuss it with her or dont be her friend anymore? Dont just refuse to discuss it because you're so busy and important (who can't send a message for a week because they're on a trip?!) and then act like she's in the wrong when she's been trying to fix things.

MowingMachine · 02/12/2025 22:40

Wheretoholiday71 · 02/12/2025 22:39

You have SERIOUSLY over analyzed the friend.
Id imagine friend wanted a simple girlie getaway for HER 40th...op and another friend suggest a pub, op states she has the money to pay for a seperate room so she can book her own room (maybe the friend who's birthday it is would like her own room but op has only thought of herself) so they'll book 2 rooms...op will have her own.
Then the friend who's 40th it is suggests a cottage that she would like...you know for HER birthday...and op replies saying it only has 2 rooms so she will try find something bigger and she can pay for the extra room...the 2 rooms at the pub were fine for op because she was going to have her own, but the 2 rooms at the cottage weren't because well basic manners would mean the friend who's birthday it is would have been given her own room and op would need to share.

With the amount of times op has referenced how she can afford things in the original post she is insufferable to me and I dont even know her. Im happy with my lot and have no money worries, but I cant stand people who are similar but feel the need to boast.

Anyway friend tried to sort the situation out almost immediately, op ghosted her, then made snarky comments about not 'analysing" her new car because it was too expensive when her friend attempted to ask a genuine question about a new car.

The friend is not the problem here...

Mate. You are quoting AI slop. Learn to recognise it!

wineosaurusrex · 02/12/2025 22:41

Wheretoholiday71 · 02/12/2025 22:39

You have SERIOUSLY over analyzed the friend.
Id imagine friend wanted a simple girlie getaway for HER 40th...op and another friend suggest a pub, op states she has the money to pay for a seperate room so she can book her own room (maybe the friend who's birthday it is would like her own room but op has only thought of herself) so they'll book 2 rooms...op will have her own.
Then the friend who's 40th it is suggests a cottage that she would like...you know for HER birthday...and op replies saying it only has 2 rooms so she will try find something bigger and she can pay for the extra room...the 2 rooms at the pub were fine for op because she was going to have her own, but the 2 rooms at the cottage weren't because well basic manners would mean the friend who's birthday it is would have been given her own room and op would need to share.

With the amount of times op has referenced how she can afford things in the original post she is insufferable to me and I dont even know her. Im happy with my lot and have no money worries, but I cant stand people who are similar but feel the need to boast.

Anyway friend tried to sort the situation out almost immediately, op ghosted her, then made snarky comments about not 'analysing" her new car because it was too expensive when her friend attempted to ask a genuine question about a new car.

The friend is not the problem here...

THIS! My view completely.

Foxyloxy89 · 02/12/2025 22:41

I gave up around the time the pub was suggested

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 02/12/2025 22:42

Mondura · 02/12/2025 15:15

Gosh, I popped to the shops and my phone blew up. Sorry about lack of paragraphs, I wrote this in two sittings, had to save it elsewhere and then copy pasted it. I can’t figure out how to edit it now. And shorten it as some of you kindly suggested.

ChatGPT is your friend for summarising and adding paragraphs.

beAsensible1 · 02/12/2025 22:43

@Littlewiseone

you cannot be serious with that everlasting scroll

Whatsthatsheila · 02/12/2025 22:45

Littlewiseone · 02/12/2025 21:12

Here’s what’s actually going on underneath all that chaos — because this is NOT about a cottage, a bedroom configuration, or even money. This is a classic friendship rupture triggered by something symbolic, not the practical issue itself.

Let me break it down clearly and compassionately.


What’s going on for the friend? (Not the poster — the friend)

  1. There is deep, unspoken resentment that has been building for YEARS

Her reaction makes zero sense in proportion to the “trigger” (the cottage with two bedrooms).
That tells you the trigger is not the cause — it’s the excuse.

The friend has:

Unprocessed feelings about money differences

And probably the power balance within the friendship

Mixed with turning 40 (identity, comparison, life evaluation)

Mixed with general emotional dysregulation

She’s been holding these feelings privately, and they finally burst out in an ugly, misdirected way.

This is why the reaction was:

Sudden

Disproportionate

Personal

Accusatory

And then followed by shame and panic

Classic emotional spillover.


  1. The friend is actually envious and ashamed — and projecting

Her line "you rub it under our noses" is pure projection.

Here’s what projection looks like:

I feel insecure about something

I don’t want to admit that

So I accuse YOU of causing my discomfort

She is struggling with:

Comparing herself to the poster financially

Feeling “less than” (even if she actually isn’t)

Fear of being left behind socially or lifestyle-wise

Turning 40 and evaluating her own life choices

The “separate room” became a symbol of:

independence

capability

financial comfort

adulthood

growing apart

And that terrified her.


  1. She felt “outgrown” and panicked

Her identity is tied up in this long friendship.

When the poster:

handled booking smoothly

offered to pay upfront

calmly suggested taking a separate room

…it triggered something like:

> “She doesn’t need me anymore. She’s in a different league. She’s outgrowing me.”

And instead of saying:

> “I feel insecure and weird about this.”

she said:

> “You’re entitled and showing off.”

That’s how insecurity often expresses itself.


  1. The friend then experienced shame — which made everything worse

The initial explosion was emotional insecurity.

Afterwards came shame:

She knew she was unreasonable

She knew she hurt her friend

She panicked when the poster went quiet

People in shame do ONE THING: They double down and attack again.

Because if they admit they were wrong, they must face the deeper insecurity that caused it.


  1. The poster’s withdrawal triggered abandonment fears

When the poster muted the chat and went quiet, the friend panicked because:

She expected immediate soothing

She wanted the poster to reassure her

She needed the relationship re-stitched RIGHT AWAY

She was terrified the poster was truly done

But the poster needed distance to regulate (which is healthy).
The friend interpreted that as rejection.

So she became:

demanding

accusatory

self-pitying

dramatic

This is classic anxious attachment behaviour.


  1. This is not about the cottage — this is about life stage shifts

Friendships built in your 20s often wobble around 40 because:

finances differ

lifestyles diverge

children change social dynamics

people subconsciously “compare lives”

birthdays trigger self-reflection

the friendship roles shift and no longer match the past

She is grieving the old dynamic where:

you were equals financially

shared rooms

lived similar lives

relied on each other daily

She felt the poster “moved on” without her, even though that isn’t true.


  1. There is also a strong element of control

The friend wanted:

simplicity

emotional closeness

predictable dynamic

The moment the plan became slightly more complicated, she lost control and threw the grenade.

People who subconsciously want control often lash out when they feel:

out-paced

outgrown

or “less needed.”


  1. The poster’s response (silence, withdrawing, being careful) unintentionally reinforced her insecurity

The friend already felt:

“less than”

like the poster had more money, more ease, more choices

So when the poster said:

> “I won’t tell you about the car because I don’t want to rub it in”

The friend heard confirmation of her deepest fear:

> “You ARE too much for me. We ARE different now. You DO think you’re better.”

That’s not what the poster meant, but that’s how an insecure person hears it.


So what is the REAL diagnosis?

This is a mix of:

✔️ **Financial insecurity (hers)

✔️ Fear of being outgrown
✔️ Turning-40 identity wobble
✔️ Long-term friendship role shift
✔️ Anxious attachment/panic
✔️ Shame → anger → shame cycle
✔️ Unspoken resentments that finally erupted**

This is not about:

the cottage

the room

booking timing

cost differences

Those are symptoms.
The cause is deeper and emotional.


Can the friendship be repaired?

Yes — but ONLY if:

**1. The friend is willing to admit insecurity (she might not be)

  1. The poster stops walking on eggshells
  1. They reset the friendship dynamic as equals — not rescuer vs. rescued
  1. They acknowledge that life stage differences exist without shame or comparison
  1. They move slowly and gently rather than forcing closeness**

Right now, the poster is trying to:

protect the friend’s feelings

manage her reaction

avoid upsetting her

be “careful”

That dynamic will kill the friendship if it continues.


The path forward

If this were the poster asking, I’d recommend:

Step 1: Stop apologising for who you are

No more:

“I don’t want to rub it in”

“Sorry I didn’t reply instantly”

“I won’t mention the car”

That strengthens the wrong narrative.

Step 2: Have a gentle but clear boundary

Something like:

> “I love you and value you. But I can’t walk on eggshells.
I want us to feel comfortable being ourselves again — both of us.
I don’t want money or rooms or logistics to represent something they’re not.
When something bothers you, I need you to tell me calmly, not explode.
And in return, I’m open to hearing anything you feel.”

Step 3: Don’t over-share until trust is rebuilt

Just keep things warm but light for a while.

Step 4: Accept the friendship has changed

Not ended — just evolved.
Once you accept that, the pressure lifts.

Step 5: Let her manage her insecurities — they are not yours to solve


TL;DR

The friend is not angry about the cottage.
She is having a 40th-birthday-life-comparison-insecurity meltdown, projected onto the poster.

The fallout is the result of:

emotional flooding

shame

fear of being left behind

resentment about perceived financial inequality

and panic that the friendship dynamic is shifting

This is fixable — but only if the poster stops carrying the responsibility for the other woman’s insecurities.

Public Service Announcement:

no medals will be awarded for longest post/response

TLDR: you didn’t win an award for a psychological breakdown of the situation.