Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

[OpheliaIsntMad]

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

The only reason DCC have proposed this is because of the current conflict ( the “genocide” as people earlier in the thread stated )
The proposal to rename the Park Hind Rajab park further points to the CURRENT conflict as being the real issue.

No - I haven’t made that confusion . You have misread my points.

I think it should be renamed. No public space should have a political affiliation.

Other names have been changed, or there have been calls to rename them.

The Berkeley Library
The Schrödinger Theatre
The Westmoreland Hotel
Nassau Street
La Touche Bridge

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/12/01/chaim-herzog-yoni-wieder-chief-rabbi-park-dublin-city-council-name-removal/

There seems to be an attempt to portray Herzog in a particularly negative light. I wonder why?
In previous generations he was highly respected in Ireland .

Quote from the previous article “During the second World War, Herzog fought with the Allies against Nazi Germany, helping to liberate concentration camps. He later helped build the State of Israel, taking part in the fight for independence from British rule. He opposed political extremism and believed in a future where Israelis and Palestinians could live side by side in peace and security. He went on to become president of Israel, widely regarded as one of the most influential Irish-born figures on the world stage.
When he returned to Ireland in 1985 on a state visit, he was greeted with a guard of honour. His presence was a moment of great national pride. Newspapers celebrated the fact that he was the only visiting head of state to speak Irish.”

In this particular instance the proposed renaming is empty virtue signalling at best / antisemitism at worst

This is a ridiculous attempt to use word salad to justify antisemitism. That’s all this is. Everything you are saying is ‘I dislike Israel, past, present and future, and therefore nobody should celebrate anything any Jew has achieved.’

It’s disgraceful. But I’m glad we are allowed to read it for what it is. I wouldn’t want you censored. It needs to be clear how much rot has set in.

Are you for real? This is the equivalent of saying if a woman is arrogant enough to not keep a constant eye on her drink in front of her in a bar because she feels safe in a place, and then it’s spiked and she’s raped, it’s her own fault.

What an absolutely insane statement.

Its so very troubling that these kind of views are mainstream and that people are confident enough to say them out loud.

' It could have so easily been avoided...'

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This has gone off piste 🤔

Yes, time to close the thread. The vote didn't happen and the park hasn't and won't be renamed.

Not yet

I find Ireland’s posturing in relation to this conflict so childish and embarrassing. Boycotting a fluffy song contest and now petitioning to rename a tiny park the size of a postage stamp. All from a nation with negligible soft power and international clout. “Oh look at them they are just like us in the 1840s” while doing nothing measurable to effect change. Rathgar is about the only area in Ireland with any sizeable Jewish community. This move is petty and cringe to the highest degree and makes me ashamed to be Irish.

Apparently it might still happen. It has only been postponed because of an administrative error.

I see nothing antisemitic in that post. Criticism of Israel, sure but nothing specifically due to being Jewish. I also free that Israel is currently a pariah state. Does that make me antisemitic too?

It's not an administrative error in the sense of 'oh we forgot a signature'. It's the fact that that the legislation around the renaming of public places was changed a couple of years ago, but the framework for the new legislation has not yet been decided. That has to happen before anything can be done, and will take ages. In the meantime they will let the matter quietly slide. I really don't think DCC had any idea of the backlash it would cause, especially among supporters of the Palestinians.

It’s not equivalent at all, because it is quite literally the most fundamental part of the job of a Prime Minister to keep the population of their country safe - and that means the whole country, not just the bits that vote for them. And Netanyahu has always sold himself to the Israeli people as ‘the only one who can keep them safe.’

The ongoing terrorist threat from Gaza was entirely predictable. Netanyahu’s decision to redeploy troops from the Gaza border area to the illegal settlements in the West Bank was stupid, arrogant and blatantly politically motivated, given that the settlers vote for him and his far-right coalition partners while the Kibbutzniks near Gaza are the descendants of the original Labour Zionists and are therefore predominantly left-leaning.

I don’t know. Do you also spend paragraphs tying yourself up in knots talking rubbish?

Gosh, you’re right. He’s so stupid, he should have contacted you for advice on how to keep the country safe from terrorism. Silly man.

Are you seriously denying that the October 7th attack was a humongous failure on the part of the Israeli security services, over which Netanyahu - as Prime Minister - holds overall responsibility? That’s the hill you’re choosing to die on? Really? You are a deeply strange person. Israelis recognise it as an appalling failure by their government to protect them, so I’m not sure who you think you’re protecting here.

This attempt at pro-Israel PR has failed dismally.

Jews For Palestine-Ireland are in favour of renaming the park and have put forward some names to replace the current one.

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It’s the old argument of where do you draw the lines though it terms of renaming streets. Zion Road is just round the corner. Many streets and statues in Ireland commemorate who were essentially Irish terrorists - and then there’s the British colonial legacy evident everywhere in place names, manor housing, etc. It’s petty, woke posturing based on this being the “current thing”.