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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:19

And if you are now telling us you are not in Dublin perhaps that explains your different perception of the opinions of many people in Dublin, where Rachel is a student?

DaisyDenise · 10/01/2026 10:28

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:17

Oh I thought you had your finger on the pulse of the opininons of the whole country?

Please remember that Rachel herself has said that anti-semitism is not widespread in Ireland.

Ireland’s Chief Rabbi has said that a ‘very small minority’ are anti-semitic.

I know you have no intention of listening to me.

DaisyDenise · 10/01/2026 10:29

They are both in Dublin so I don’t think it’s so different to where I am.

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:32

DaisyDenise · 10/01/2026 10:28

Please remember that Rachel herself has said that anti-semitism is not widespread in Ireland.

Ireland’s Chief Rabbi has said that a ‘very small minority’ are anti-semitic.

I know you have no intention of listening to me.

You do seem to have a passion for minimising this issue. At the end of the day I will listen to Jews and their allies.

x.com/i/status/1940883165477847269

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:37

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 09:46

People in positions of influence that remain in their posts - with no repurcussions which neatly supports Rachel's other key point about the enablers and deniers. A quick look at Conor Reddy's instagram reveals him to have an obsessive hatred of Israel, with post after post. He has no particular interest in foreign policy, conflict resolution, or human rights. Just a relentless opposition to Zionism - the right to self determination of the Jewish people - and explicit calls for the end of the state of Israel. This is what he posted on 8 October 2023. He did not comment on the 7 October massacre. Looks pretty celebratory to me.

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He's a local councillor in one constituency in Dublin he is hardly in a position of power, he was not successful in his bid to get elected to the Dail. If you knew about about irish local government you would know that local authorities do not have the same powers as those in UK so no he is not in a position of power. Irish politics have parties like sinn fein who were once the political wing of the IRA so there are some who still support that type of resistance but that's not exclusive to the Palestinian struggle

I completely disagree that this is evidence of many Irish people celebrating the rape and murder of children which was Rachel's words.

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:37

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:32

You do seem to have a passion for minimising this issue. At the end of the day I will listen to Jews and their allies.

x.com/i/status/1940883165477847269

No idea what that is will not click on any X links

OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:38

I admire Rachel Moiselle enormously now. I didn’t really know too much about her before this thread. She is a principled and courageous young woman.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:39

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:37

No idea what that is will not click on any X links

You don’t want to know. We get it.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:40

Ironically the minimisers and deniers on here have actually illustrated the nature of the problem in Ireland.

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Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:43

OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:39

You don’t want to know. We get it.

I'm sure Sharon can type the transcript. I refuse to engage in a platform that facilitates child sexual abuse images so please don't twist my post to suit your agenda

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:46

OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:40

Ironically the minimisers and deniers on here have actually illustrated the nature of the problem in Ireland.

No one is minimising or denying, every poster engaging with you on this thread have said they know there is antisemitism in Ireland. What I am annoyed about is how Rachel has phrased things to make people outside of Ireland and in Israel conclude that many Irish people were celebrating the murder of children and rape of women. That is untrue and smears a while nation of people. Not sure why you would think people should accept that.

DaisyDenise · 10/01/2026 10:50

OpheliaIsntMad · 10/01/2026 10:40

Ironically the minimisers and deniers on here have actually illustrated the nature of the problem in Ireland.

That’s a Catch 22 isn’t it?
A very effective way of silencing people.

Not allowed to disagree in any way or you’ll make this worse. I see.

I’ve never found echo chambers particularly useful. They’re dangerous imho. But there you go.

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:50

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:37

He's a local councillor in one constituency in Dublin he is hardly in a position of power, he was not successful in his bid to get elected to the Dail. If you knew about about irish local government you would know that local authorities do not have the same powers as those in UK so no he is not in a position of power. Irish politics have parties like sinn fein who were once the political wing of the IRA so there are some who still support that type of resistance but that's not exclusive to the Palestinian struggle

I completely disagree that this is evidence of many Irish people celebrating the rape and murder of children which was Rachel's words.

Councillors in Ireland have no power? why do they bother having them? Do people not vote for them on the basis of supporting what they do and say? His party stands candidates in general elections and has two seats in the Dail. You can't dismiss this away.

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:55

DaisyDenise · 10/01/2026 10:50

That’s a Catch 22 isn’t it?
A very effective way of silencing people.

Not allowed to disagree in any way or you’ll make this worse. I see.

I’ve never found echo chambers particularly useful. They’re dangerous imho. But there you go.

Who is being silenced?

Oinseach · 10/01/2026 10:59

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:50

Councillors in Ireland have no power? why do they bother having them? Do people not vote for them on the basis of supporting what they do and say? His party stands candidates in general elections and has two seats in the Dail. You can't dismiss this away.

You clearly know nothing about Ireland. Stop.

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:59

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 10:50

Councillors in Ireland have no power? why do they bother having them? Do people not vote for them on the basis of supporting what they do and say? His party stands candidates in general elections and has two seats in the Dail. You can't dismiss this away.

I didn't say no power I said he was hardly in a position of power. Our local authorities have no influence on policy.

Do people not vote for them on the basis of supporting what they do and say?
People mainly vote based on local issues such as housing, planning, local amenities. Sinn fein and people before profit do well in some communities at local level because they are local agitators and take on local causes. I'm not dismissing or supporting what he says I'm putting it into the context of Ireland and their structures. He is not representative of a mainstream view.

Oinseach · 10/01/2026 11:02

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 08:41

To those who claimed that noone celebrated 7 October in Ireland I just happened to be researching something else and came across these - all tweets from Irish politicians. Note the dates.

Conor Reddy was a student when he wrote that. He's now a local councillor with zero influence on anything important. He's a loudmouth and doesn't represent 98.8% of Irish people.

Can you stop casting aspersions when you don't live here and you haven't a clue?

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:02

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:43

I'm sure Sharon can type the transcript. I refuse to engage in a platform that facilitates child sexual abuse images so please don't twist my post to suit your agenda

If you never look at twitter I wonder how you know what Rachel says, given its one of her main platforms? Interesting.

Anyway cut and paste here. Post dated July 2025

And so Ireland is once again making waves internationally for its antisemitism problem. I have, in fact, publicly defended Ireland many times against claims that it is ‘the most antisemitic country in Europe’. I have said that this is a reductive description because, specifically with respect to physical violence, it demonstrably is not. Despite what my detractors say, I have tried to remain even-handed in my highlighting of antisemitism, extremism, and anti-Israel bias in this country. For context: with respect to my political positions I have been clear that, in my opinion, a ceasefire and hostage deal is urgently necessary. I have spoken out against West Bank settler violence and the systemic failure to hold these terrorists responsible. I am in favour of a two-state solution. However, the reality that I can deny no longer is this: Yes. Ireland is indeed one of the most antisemitic countries in Europe on most metrics, with the notable exception of physical violence. We have a significant portion of our society that is radicalised and they operate with impunity. Their actions range from waving flags of proscribed terrorist organisations (Hamas, Hezbollah, the PFLP), to vandalising property, to spitting on an Israeli tourist, to assaulting a Jewish student in the bathroom of a nightclub in Dublin. Our political and media establishments have both have a very serious institutional antisemitism problem. With respect to politics: we have observed an elected councillor in one of our largest political parties say that ‘the entire US economy is ruled by the Jews’. We have observed elected councillors in more fringe parties celebrate October 7th. We have observed our Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minster provide cover for our President after he spread a baseless conspiracy theory about the Israeli embassy in Dublin. With respect to the media: the anti-Israel bias that has infected the entire establishment—including our national broadcaster—is to such a degree that to call it propaganda at this point would not be hyperbolic. I have seen blatant disinformation reported in both The Irish Times and The Journal, which I was personally responsible for getting amended. Holocaust inversion is rampant and normalised in our media. For a country that claims to be ‘not antisemitic, just anti-genocide’, we constantly demean the industrial-scale genocide of Jews. Need I remind people that Jews were forcibly dragged out of our International Holocaust Memorial Day commemoration for a silent protest against our president politicising his keynote speech, which was one the Jewish community did not want him to give in the first place. On a personal note: the astounding viciousness that I have been subjected to personally, despite my moderate views, has shocked even Palestinian friends of mine. I have been subjected to death threats. Rape threats. Stalking. Consistent defamation against my identity and character. Maliciously cropped tweets to warp my words and intentions. The people who target me never go after what I say: it is always an attack on me as a person. I am constantly told I am not Irish, that I am not wanted here. People often say I am ‘brave’, but the reality is that I started speaking out not anticipating the sheer level of vicious hatred and cruelty that existed here towards Israelis and, yes, Jews. Perhaps if I had known, I would not have had the courage to speak up. In my opinion is banning trade with Israeli settlements antisemitic? No. As my friend
@arash_tehran
wrote: ‘it’s a policy followed by many patriotic Israelis themselves’. However, do I think Ireland’s decision to ban trade was driven by antisemitism? Yes. Because Ireland has a major institutional antisemitism problem. This is a fact that simply cannot be denied any longer by any reasonable person. The echo chamber Ireland is in on this issue must be penetrated at some point. Let it be now. Let us finally have the reckoning that is long overdue.

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:04

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 10:59

I didn't say no power I said he was hardly in a position of power. Our local authorities have no influence on policy.

Do people not vote for them on the basis of supporting what they do and say?
People mainly vote based on local issues such as housing, planning, local amenities. Sinn fein and people before profit do well in some communities at local level because they are local agitators and take on local causes. I'm not dismissing or supporting what he says I'm putting it into the context of Ireland and their structures. He is not representative of a mainstream view.

Yes, that local councillors should be focussed on local issues is precisely my point. Why is he so obsessed with the world's only Jewish state, posting antisemitic content from his official social media platforms.

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 11:10

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:02

If you never look at twitter I wonder how you know what Rachel says, given its one of her main platforms? Interesting.

Anyway cut and paste here. Post dated July 2025

And so Ireland is once again making waves internationally for its antisemitism problem. I have, in fact, publicly defended Ireland many times against claims that it is ‘the most antisemitic country in Europe’. I have said that this is a reductive description because, specifically with respect to physical violence, it demonstrably is not. Despite what my detractors say, I have tried to remain even-handed in my highlighting of antisemitism, extremism, and anti-Israel bias in this country. For context: with respect to my political positions I have been clear that, in my opinion, a ceasefire and hostage deal is urgently necessary. I have spoken out against West Bank settler violence and the systemic failure to hold these terrorists responsible. I am in favour of a two-state solution. However, the reality that I can deny no longer is this: Yes. Ireland is indeed one of the most antisemitic countries in Europe on most metrics, with the notable exception of physical violence. We have a significant portion of our society that is radicalised and they operate with impunity. Their actions range from waving flags of proscribed terrorist organisations (Hamas, Hezbollah, the PFLP), to vandalising property, to spitting on an Israeli tourist, to assaulting a Jewish student in the bathroom of a nightclub in Dublin. Our political and media establishments have both have a very serious institutional antisemitism problem. With respect to politics: we have observed an elected councillor in one of our largest political parties say that ‘the entire US economy is ruled by the Jews’. We have observed elected councillors in more fringe parties celebrate October 7th. We have observed our Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minster provide cover for our President after he spread a baseless conspiracy theory about the Israeli embassy in Dublin. With respect to the media: the anti-Israel bias that has infected the entire establishment—including our national broadcaster—is to such a degree that to call it propaganda at this point would not be hyperbolic. I have seen blatant disinformation reported in both The Irish Times and The Journal, which I was personally responsible for getting amended. Holocaust inversion is rampant and normalised in our media. For a country that claims to be ‘not antisemitic, just anti-genocide’, we constantly demean the industrial-scale genocide of Jews. Need I remind people that Jews were forcibly dragged out of our International Holocaust Memorial Day commemoration for a silent protest against our president politicising his keynote speech, which was one the Jewish community did not want him to give in the first place. On a personal note: the astounding viciousness that I have been subjected to personally, despite my moderate views, has shocked even Palestinian friends of mine. I have been subjected to death threats. Rape threats. Stalking. Consistent defamation against my identity and character. Maliciously cropped tweets to warp my words and intentions. The people who target me never go after what I say: it is always an attack on me as a person. I am constantly told I am not Irish, that I am not wanted here. People often say I am ‘brave’, but the reality is that I started speaking out not anticipating the sheer level of vicious hatred and cruelty that existed here towards Israelis and, yes, Jews. Perhaps if I had known, I would not have had the courage to speak up. In my opinion is banning trade with Israeli settlements antisemitic? No. As my friend
@arash_tehran
wrote: ‘it’s a policy followed by many patriotic Israelis themselves’. However, do I think Ireland’s decision to ban trade was driven by antisemitism? Yes. Because Ireland has a major institutional antisemitism problem. This is a fact that simply cannot be denied any longer by any reasonable person. The echo chamber Ireland is in on this issue must be penetrated at some point. Let it be now. Let us finally have the reckoning that is long overdue.

If you never look at twitter I wonder how you know what Rachel says, given its one of her main platforms? Interesting.
Interesting is it? Have you zero critical thinking skills? I read the transcripts here on this thread, nothing more interesting than that. My God you do seem to love to spin a mundane scenario into something else entirely.

Thank you for posting transcript it is very damning I agree and I assume one of the reasons why the government is working and engaging with the Jewish community now more than ever to address the issues raised. I don't know who this person is or what their position but do know the chief Rabbi Yoni Wieder will be working with the government on their recommendations from their report once published.

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:14

@Boolabus well lets see what Jews in Ireland make of it. Its their judgement that matters.

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 11:15

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:04

Yes, that local councillors should be focussed on local issues is precisely my point. Why is he so obsessed with the world's only Jewish state, posting antisemitic content from his official social media platforms.

Because he's an agitator in a political party called people before profit which was formed during the recession and subsequent austerity measures in Ireland during the early noughties. It's a left wing socialist party, mainly in urban disadvantaged areas, doesn't have nationwide coverage.

Why is he so obsessed with the world's only Jewish state, posting antisemitic content from his official social media platforms.
No idea

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 11:20

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:14

@Boolabus well lets see what Jews in Ireland make of it. Its their judgement that matters.

It is and as I've said before on this thread they have very good access to our government.
Ireland is very very different to the UK and if you view it through that lense you are not understanding the country. It is a very small country and people have far more access to their politicians and political structures. Far more transparent then the UK and local issues often become national ones because of that. The Jewish community has a good platform here and features frequently on news platforms so their voice gets heard and the government is committed to addressing the issue they have said this many times.

Oinseach · 10/01/2026 11:24

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:14

@Boolabus well lets see what Jews in Ireland make of it. Its their judgement that matters.

Like the Chief Rabbi of Ireland, perhaps?

"It was his belief “that only a very small minority in this country wish to marginalise or threaten Jewish people..”"

SharonEllis · 10/01/2026 11:26

Boolabus · 10/01/2026 11:15

Because he's an agitator in a political party called people before profit which was formed during the recession and subsequent austerity measures in Ireland during the early noughties. It's a left wing socialist party, mainly in urban disadvantaged areas, doesn't have nationwide coverage.

Why is he so obsessed with the world's only Jewish state, posting antisemitic content from his official social media platforms.
No idea

I didnt say he had nationwide coverage - he was an example. I am not a pollster in Ireland I don't have acess to detailed data on opinion across Ireland. I am listening to and trusting the Irish Jewish community and respected researchers in the Jewish diaspora.

This conversation started with people disputing Rachel's contention that many people in Ireland celebrated 7 October. Varying from 'zero evidence' to nobody celebrating.

Clearly it is untrue to say 'zero evidence' and that nobody celebrated.

As ever the obsessive oversentivity about criticism of Ireland seems more important than concern for the Irish community which undoubtedly and unequivocally has real concerns about antisemitism in Ireland from the very top, the President, to minor politicians to wider society.

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