Husband wants to leave the uk post budget….

[Maryaliceyoungx]

husband wants to leave and don’t get me wrong - I do see why. We are being hammered in the budget, we drive shitty cars, the rain is shit… life in the UK can be pretty shitty right now. he works for a US based company and I am a US citizen as I was born there and spent my life until my early teens there (parents are British and were working out there) so I see why he wants to go -it would be good for his career and would be potential to make money without the huge tax burden of the UK (company based in low state tax state)

but I don’t want to go… I love my life here. I love our village and my kids lovely village school. My family is here and I worry my parents don’t have so much time left.

however i do have to recognise the money aspect- my husbands job could be impacted by AI so i think he is right in thinking we should max out our earning potential while we can and we just won’t be able to do that here as it will just be taxed away.

aibu for sacrificing potentially huge earnings just because I love village life? Would it even be cheaper? I would insist upon private school in the US(went to state school in the us and have a lot of trauma from that!) and we wouldnt sell our house here so would need to rent. Most recent trip to thr us - over a year ago and cost of living was sky high.

I’ll be honest - couldn’t care about the politics. Politics are shit whereever you go!!

Responses like this would be sending me running to live in another country in a heartbeat. Do you get some sort of kick out of showing how unpleasant you are to a bunch of random strangers?

Honestly OP, asking for advice on moving to the US (or anywhere really) on MN elicits responses from a bunch of people who haven't a clue about the reality of life in these places. Just ignore those posters and take advice from the more sensible sorts.

In relation to the budget as I would never entertained the idea until budget. The exact details I do not need to share

thank you

It's actually affluent areas, not poor areas, where most students have been murdered in school.

On the number - yes, its small in absolute terms (though extremely high compared to any other developed nation).

I guess one could get used to children having to practice shooter protocols at primary school… 😢

No way. Think very hard about this. It’s a different culture.

It's not a snarky comment, it's a fact.

I had a brief look at the budget and there was less change than the headlines suggested. Even the £2m mansion tax wasn’t huge enough to leave (£2.5k), I would be fine to pay it, we’re not big earners but very comfortable. The £5m plus rate might be harder to stomach (£7.5k). Apparently we’re only impacted by the tax tier freeze, house not £2m, yet.

In the US our home could be unaffordable for us due to property taxes. Obviously higher salary helps but you’d have to do the maths fully to really see which is better financially long term.

I wonder if the reaction is to the headlines and knowing the high salaries on offer vs the true personal impact. I know my salary could almost double and wage suppression in the U.K. is ridiculous.

They have just made nursing a non professional degree along with OT, physio the majority of these jobs are held by women. That is to cut off their financial support so they would be happy to marry anyone, look up project 2025 which JD Vance backs.

No, we don’t need the exact details, just a vague indication of why you’ll be worse off, because most people won’t be significantly- they especially won’t be “hammered”. The fact that you’re avoiding saying anything indicates that you’re not actually being significantly impacted at all.

I'm not sure I understand why he is worried about his job prospects here due to AI but is not worried about the same thing in the US? Surely the same issue would arise?

Anyway, your DH seems to be looking at the best case scenario. I would also think about what you would do in the worst case scenario and how the 2 countries compare. Someone has also mentioned the lack of employment laws in the US. That to me would be a big concern. Also think about what would happen if your marriage did break down. You would not be able to move the DC back to the UK without his agreement. Would you be able to support yourself? As well as school expenses and basic medical expenses think about what if your DC or you or DH developed an ongoing condition and how that would impact your lives and what support is available.

How will you go with limited holiday allowances and sick allowances for DH? By the time you have a family holiday, most of your visits back to the UK would just be you and the DC.

with regards to ai - he is worried in general
but is convinced he can make more money in a shorter period of time in America

I'd love to live abroad, I love to travel and explore new places and opportunities. But if my option was the US? I'll stay put.

I am going to say something contraversial here.

I don't think Nursing and OT need to be degree level as there is no diagnosis requirement. My mum had a nursing diploma to start working in the 1970s and then was able to upskill through work and avoiding the cost of going to university.

Physio/SLT have diagnositic parts to their entry level roles (in the UK anyway) and therefore it makes sense for them to have Level 7/8 qualification which involves researching skills.

Are your children entitled to dual nationality?

What would happen if they were caught smoking dope at college? Could they be deported?

Or if you have a daughter would you be happy with female reproductuon laws?

If you move, kids all settled and AI takes DH job will he be allowed to stay as he was on a sponsored visa?

It does seem like a rather large salary increase. So may be worth it and could be a positive experience.

I have friends who are considering coming back to the UK as they are concerned with changes in USA recent years. Two different families from two different states. My questions are a few of the things my friends are concerned about.

You don't really sound like you are that keen.

Let us know how it works out.

On the very minor issue of cheese, don’t panic @Maryaliceyoungx

I’m about to put together a cheese board to snack on as we’re watching football and I have Wensleydale with cranberries, Brie, goat cheese with figs and honey and some decent Cheddar ( imported of course :-). I’m not keen on Stilton and blue cheeses, but they’re also sold in the supermarket up the road.

So you won’t be condemned to Kraft slices and orange so-called Cheddar if you do move. 🤣

Have you actually done the budget calculator that will show you how much yesterday’s announcements will impact you or is this all driven from Daily Mail scaremongering?

I put my details in and I will be 65 pence worse off apparently

The US is a big place, it really depends where you would be going. It sounds like there your family will earn well and be insulated from a lot of the shit going on there. I say give it a go, if you don't plan to sell your UK village home you can come back easily enough after a year or two.

Oh, interesting, I didn’t know that. I always assumed it wasn't an issue in the affluent areas, hence politicians remaining reluctant to change anything as they aren't affected. I haven't looked at the statistics though.

No I wouldnt go to live in the usa not even for a million pounds to expensive to live out there and no free health everything double the price and I would also worry for my safety to many gun shootings as well. How would you feel if something happened to your family while out there and it's not like its 5 mins back home to the uk it takes hours by plane to go back home. To much is at risk

Depends I guess where you are - tax isn’t that low everywhere in US - my friends in Cali think it’s quite high and yes they are in good money but in all honesty have said they are no better off - rentals are high, decent quality food very high indeed - maybe a lot cheaper in certain areas but depends if you like that area-

I don't think money is more important than the reasons you listed for wanting to stay here. Maximising earnings at the expense of other things seems mindless.

Have you actually been there?

The USA is so expensive, honestly you think our food is expensive, try £13 a kilo for cheese and £2 for milk!

@Booboobagins

How much milk do you get for £2 in the UK? Genuinely curious (I’m in the US).

I’m a farmers wife. We can’t leave. We are tied here. With our land. I’m not sorry we have to pay more. We have it good. Not loads of money. But we scrape by. I’m sad if your higher earners can’t think further than yourselves. We will continue to produce food, sending our kids to state schools, using the nhs and hoping that some of the fucks like you might consider contributing too. Best wishes

Are you completely up to date on your US tax returns OP?