Husband wants to leave the uk post budget….

[Maryaliceyoungx]

husband wants to leave and don’t get me wrong - I do see why. We are being hammered in the budget, we drive shitty cars, the rain is shit… life in the UK can be pretty shitty right now. he works for a US based company and I am a US citizen as I was born there and spent my life until my early teens there (parents are British and were working out there) so I see why he wants to go -it would be good for his career and would be potential to make money without the huge tax burden of the UK (company based in low state tax state)

but I don’t want to go… I love my life here. I love our village and my kids lovely village school. My family is here and I worry my parents don’t have so much time left.

however i do have to recognise the money aspect- my husbands job could be impacted by AI so i think he is right in thinking we should max out our earning potential while we can and we just won’t be able to do that here as it will just be taxed away.

aibu for sacrificing potentially huge earnings just because I love village life? Would it even be cheaper? I would insist upon private school in the US(went to state school in the us and have a lot of trauma from that!) and we wouldnt sell our house here so would need to rent. Most recent trip to thr us - over a year ago and cost of living was sky high.

I’ll be honest - couldn’t care about the politics. Politics are shit whereever you go!!

America's immigration police have always been quite full on. When I returned after a Christmas visit to UK family, I was asked why are you here. I replied, very politely, "Because I am back at my job tomorrow morning." Half wits, but I don't suppose they were paid particularly well and it was probably all the fun they could have at work.

Even as a US citizen they are really unnecessarily harsh!

You're not wrong. A friend of mine recently said he just tells them to "get fucked" and they can't do anything about it. I guess that's much easier to do when you're a white, ex military natural born citizen. I'm brown and naturalised so I just grit my teeth and curse under my breath.

They get really shirty about the fact that I dare to live in another country… I have to explain each time that my parents aren’t citizens.
to add they have been as bad under trump, Biden and Obama… this isn’t new

I am sorry you get such a hard time.

I just explain that I live in the UK because my husband is English. (Never mind my highly skilled occupation) You know, the little woman. It is not exactly my most feminist stance but it is true we moved here for personal reasons and it makes life easier.

Ohh that is a good plan! I shall sigh heavily as I explain about my British husband 😂😂

Yeah, I used to live in Dubai, and on one of my trips home I was taken aside and questioned simply for travelling from the middle east. I missed my flight and they didn't reimburse me. During Obama's term.

I hope it works!

The weather in the two countries being what it is, chances are you can say how nice it is to be back in the sunshine, and they will lap it up.

In truth, overall I think the weather is roughly equal - I like the fact that it is less extreme here quite a lot even as I sometimes wish for a bit more sunshine.

Seems to be incredible that they hate both immigration and emigration.

They seem to take it as a personal slight that you left somewhere they think is the best place in the world.

Hear, hear.

I have a lot of respect for your views but in this case I hope you and @Bloozie are wrong. I think many Reform voters are hurting personally and are fearful for the country, and they’ve latched onto an easy target (immigration)

The wrong target in your view and mine, and it is terrifying how Farage has managed to pull the wool over so many eyes. But in the same way that it is easier to blame the third party for your partner’s affair, it is easier to find an external cause for the decline of the country you love.

Tbf there have been posts enraged at people leaving here.

I'm sure that you'd get that feeling anywhere.

I'd expect more professionalism from a border control officer though.

There is an interesting article trending now in the NY Times online about a similar topic.

The mayor elect of NYC has pledged to raise the city income tax on those with incomes above $1,000,000 pa. People are enquiring of accountants and lawyers how to achieve nonresident status.

The experts say it is actually quite a big kerfuffle to do this so as to satisfy an audit.

There have always been a lot of these queries in NYC because state and local income taxes on high earners are already 15%. The consensus is that only about 10% of those who threaten to leave go through with it.

PS Sadly the article is behind a paywall

It’s actually not too hard to do - I have a family member already doing this as they have multiple properties - one being in Florida - and you just need to prove you’ve spent 6 months in a different state. It’s actually very common for rich New Yorkers - or those from CT where I grew up - to be ‘swallows’ so they spend summers in hotter states like Florida especially as they get older. Now they will just need to spend a bit more time in Florida.

Apparently if you earn $10,000,000 chances of an audit are near 100% and it can be very detailed. Audit probability is lower for seven figure incomes but not negligible, and fees can easily be six figures (according to the NYT).

It’s a big deal if you have DC in school - Florida state school pedagogy is truly scary. If you love culture, multiculturalism, great food, the four seasons and so much more, life in FL is quite an adjustment. I suppose you have Disneyland in compensation

I can see this works well if you are retired or self employed without much in the way of local ties. It must be rather more complicated though for anyone with kids … or anyone who has friends and family in one place and doesn’t want to miss out on seeing them half the year.

Yes definitely! Go for it! I'm trying to look through your comments to see if you've mentioned what state/city you'll be moving to. Honestly for career opportunities there's so much more scope for growth and higher earnings in America.

Yes but you don’t have to leave New York - you just spend the best months there! My family member finds it the best of both worlds as due to age she really struggles with the weather in winter. Agree that having children would make it make it more difficult

I/We were planning on leaving the UK for Portugal this time last year. Better tax regime for retiring yada, yada. Pay the healthcare insurance. It wasn't my ideal because I prefer Spain to Portugal, but we would have bought a home on the border so we could flit back and forth. But with a health crisis just before Christmas last year. all my easy assumptive planning is right out of the window. I want to be able to talk medical in English. And I am very good at languages.

The big problem with moving to Florida is that you have to move to Florida.

The high earners of New York like living in New York. That's why they stay, in dpite of high housing costs and taxes. They like the walkable lifestyle, the business contacts, the schools etc.

Yes - so what I am saying is that many once their children have left home will continue to live in New York for 6 months of the year during the best months of spring and autumn and then relocate during the harsh winters and when it’s too hot in summer. That’s the beauty of it is that they are not really leaving - they keep their homes etc. especially as people get older - the harsh winters get harder and although they may not like Florida as much - there are enclaves like Sarasota they will all head to which are lovely

If they can they probably will.

And there's no evidence that they are. Nor was there a mass flight from Boston when taxes were raised up there.