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AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

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StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:02

Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

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twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:04

Thankyourose · 30/11/2025 16:31

I’m not a racist, lying, self interested Tory twat, so no thanks. Shouting at people in an aggro manner is not the sign of a good leader.

Neither is calling someone a twat just because they don't vote how you want them to.
As usual, the name calling starts from the Left

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:06

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"If you need help throwing her off a cliff... I'll get behind her - I'm all in"
are you fucking for real?? If anyone said that about Reeves you would be raging.

You are supporting the killing of an MP just because you disagree with her? Fucking hell

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 18:15

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:06

"If you need help throwing her off a cliff... I'll get behind her - I'm all in"
are you fucking for real?? If anyone said that about Reeves you would be raging.

You are supporting the killing of an MP just because you disagree with her? Fucking hell

I know. Shows people who they’re dealing with. Not surprised MPs are afraid for their lives sometimes.

Papyrophile · 30/11/2025 18:16

Personally, I am unwilling to push anyone off a cliff even if I disagree with them!

I can't take the labour party seriously because there doesn't seem to be a single member who has ever started or run a business, not even an Etsy stall. My objection is that none of them have ever worried about generating the income to pay the wages bill. Show me a senior Labour politician who has done so successfully for several years and I might take notice.

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 18:17

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:06

"If you need help throwing her off a cliff... I'll get behind her - I'm all in"
are you fucking for real?? If anyone said that about Reeves you would be raging.

You are supporting the killing of an MP just because you disagree with her? Fucking hell

I hope you’ve reported the post-and Mumsnet- to the police if you think it was incitement to murder.

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 18:25

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 18:17

I hope you’ve reported the post-and Mumsnet- to the police if you think it was incitement to murder.

If you hope that happens you could rather than asking someone else to.

Nanalovesnature · 30/11/2025 18:25

Are the people who are against Kemi and still pro labour here on MN people who are in receipt of benefits. I don't know anyone in real life who isn't full of rage for the labour party and even more so after Wednesday's budget and all the lies. It is surprising to me reading people here who are in support of labour. I can only imagine that they are some of the many people taking it in on benefits.

Legolava · 30/11/2025 18:31

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 18:17

I hope you’ve reported the post-and Mumsnet- to the police if you think it was incitement to murder.

To be fair, threatening to kill someone on the internet would fall foul of a couple of laws. At least the malicious communications act.

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:32

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 18:17

I hope you’ve reported the post-and Mumsnet- to the police if you think it was incitement to murder.

If someone had said this about Reeves you would be the first to report!
Just because it's KB you think it's fine?

Fundamentally do you think that's an acceptable thing to say?

PandoraSocks · 30/11/2025 18:33

Wishing14 · 30/11/2025 16:28

@PandoraSocksbut it’s not about begrudging them. It’s about what it implies about society and its longevity - where’s the incentive to get off benefits if the reward isn’t there? Good government isn’t charity.

People who are able to work should do so, I have no argument with that. However, I would imagine being a parent of disabled children could be very much a full time job. I am happy for my taxes to go towards supporting those families.

StarlightLady · 30/11/2025 19:02

Papyrophile · 30/11/2025 18:16

Personally, I am unwilling to push anyone off a cliff even if I disagree with them!

I can't take the labour party seriously because there doesn't seem to be a single member who has ever started or run a business, not even an Etsy stall. My objection is that none of them have ever worried about generating the income to pay the wages bill. Show me a senior Labour politician who has done so successfully for several years and I might take notice.

”… there doesn’t seem to be a single member who has ever started or run a business”.

Please quote your source of information and the number of members you are referring to. Please also the amount of research you have done. Thank you.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/11/2025 19:07

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twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:12

StarlightLady · 30/11/2025 19:02

”… there doesn’t seem to be a single member who has ever started or run a business”.

Please quote your source of information and the number of members you are referring to. Please also the amount of research you have done. Thank you.

Have you got any evidence to the contrary? How many Labour MPs have started and run a business?

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 19:14

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 18:32

If someone had said this about Reeves you would be the first to report!
Just because it's KB you think it's fine?

Fundamentally do you think that's an acceptable thing to say?

So you have reported it to the police? What did they say?

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:17

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 19:14

So you have reported it to the police? What did they say?

Do you think it's an acceptable thing to write?

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 19:19

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:17

Do you think it's an acceptable thing to write?

I’m interested too, do they

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:20

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 19:19

I’m interested too, do they

They haven't said otherwise so it looks like it yes

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 19:21

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:20

They haven't said otherwise so it looks like it yes

Probably not for Reeves and co though

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 19:24

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:17

Do you think it's an acceptable thing to write?

I think it’s a perfectly normal piece of hyperbole. In the same way that people say “I could strangle X person. I probably wouldn’t say it, but it doesn’t bother me if other people do.

What did the police say when you reported it?

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 19:25

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 19:24

I think it’s a perfectly normal piece of hyperbole. In the same way that people say “I could strangle X person. I probably wouldn’t say it, but it doesn’t bother me if other people do.

What did the police say when you reported it?

What are you talking about with police?

Papyrophile · 30/11/2025 19:26

I've just spent 10 minutes looking for Labour MPs who have started businesses, and there are none. Not one. Not even failed businesses.

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:28

CurlewKate · 30/11/2025 19:24

I think it’s a perfectly normal piece of hyperbole. In the same way that people say “I could strangle X person. I probably wouldn’t say it, but it doesn’t bother me if other people do.

What did the police say when you reported it?

OK so that's the bar of acceptability? Saying you would be happy to push an MP off a cliff?
Good to know. I bet if someone was talking about a Labour MP though you wouldn't have the same opinion.

Kirbert2 · 30/11/2025 19:29

Nanalovesnature · 30/11/2025 18:25

Are the people who are against Kemi and still pro labour here on MN people who are in receipt of benefits. I don't know anyone in real life who isn't full of rage for the labour party and even more so after Wednesday's budget and all the lies. It is surprising to me reading people here who are in support of labour. I can only imagine that they are some of the many people taking it in on benefits.

Labour is the best of a bad bunch for me.

I have a disabled child and can't work due to that so yes, I'm on benefits. I would never support the Tories or Reform due to their opinions about disabled people.

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:29

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 19:21

Probably not for Reeves and co though

Well yes precisely however according to PP it's an acceptable thing to say about anyone. So good to know

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 19:30

Papyrophile · 30/11/2025 19:26

I've just spent 10 minutes looking for Labour MPs who have started businesses, and there are none. Not one. Not even failed businesses.

Shocker, not!

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