AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

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Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

Never claimed benefits in my life. Well, not until the state pension.

In any case, MN agree with me that it's not acceptable. You may want to reflect on that.

Public sector worker?

Yes, I appreciate that I am a Tory and that I generally disagree with most of the MN left. But if none of your MP's have ever even tried to succeed in business, then why would people who have small companies, or bigger ones, take you seriously? They do not know anything about keeping a business going.

No. Just that.

I was for a period of my life, yes. What has that got to do with being on benefits?

A poster said it was a death threat. If I saw a death threat the police would be my first port of call.

Stop misquoting me. I never said it was a death threat, read my post.
I said "you are supporting the killing of an MP just because you disagree with her?".
I didn't say they made a death threat.
Your comprehension is poor.

Until public sector pensions are defined contribution based, rather than final salary related, a Labour government will continue to savage DC pensions. Easy and cheap to attack, and without any fear of backlash!

No she didn’t. You’ve jumped to that in your own posts.

Mnhq have deleted it anyway so they agree

The only people supporting Labour right now are retired public sector workers or those in receipt of welfare.

As proven yet again. Ex/current public sector workers with great pensions (compared to majority of private sector workers) and rely on the state for employment.

They are arguing semantics. Saying something like that, even in jest, would definitely be an offence under the malicious communications act. That’s why MNHQ had to delete it. Some might want to remember that piece of legislation when hurling abuse at people for having differing opinions.

Most PS pension schemes are DC now.

Yeah everyone is happy to help support disabled ppl.

This is really not the case, sadly. For example, have you seen some of the MN threads about the Motability scheme?

Just correcting myself slightly here. I think most public sector pension schemes are now some form of career average/DC schemes. Final salary PS pension schemes are mostly are no longer open to new members AFAIK.

That's extremely difficult to do. Almost all public sector pension schemes don't put contributions in a pot.

Set up a DC scheme and you have to invest all those contributions which means a big black hole in your current finances.

The coalition government tried to do this and couldn't manage it .

You've clearly missed some threads on here because that isn't the case at all.

The Tories are now an irrelevance, at least for a generation.
Reform would seem to be incompetent, however they are scaring Labour into being more right wing than the Tories were over their 14 year reign.
If Labour can fix the NHS, law & order, and the bug bear of immigration, they should win easily next election.

Totally agree.

How she didn't have her arse kicked for that is beyond me. She is not fit for public office in any capacity. For the Tories to elect her as their party leader just tells me all I need to know about their ethics.

This.

lt wasn’t Baroness Harman’s emails, she hacked her website and altered the content; a criminal offence.

What's wrong with being a public sector worker?

Nothing - I am one. On the whole, they are generally ignorant of what is going on in the real world. Especially retired ones on pensions that the rest of us can only dream of. All the while, the public sector is falling apart and the unions just keep kite flying and not really helping our cause. They are sheltered from a lot of the pain and uncertainty that has been inflicted on the private sector. That impacts everyone. The only people I see supporting Labour fall into two categories at the moment. My colleagues can’t stand them. They are losing the support of the current crop of PS workers.

Same.