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Should people who voted for Brexit be allowed to apply for an Irish Passport?

269 replies

Berlinlover · 18/11/2025 18:47

I have two cousins who were born and raised in England who have an Irish father and an English mother. Both my cousins voted for Brexit and are now applying for Irish passports. I’m Irish and living in Ireland and this makes me absolutely furious. They are both women in their 50s who never wanted an Irish passport until now. They have no interest whatsoever in Irish history and anything related to Ireland. They’re not even embarrassed that they voted for Brexit and see an Irish passport as a way of skipping queues at the airport. It seems so unfair on those who voted to remain but don’t have an Irish parent/grandparent so can’t apply for an Irish passport.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/11/2025 22:59

No.

I guess no one can stop them though!

But I don’t think EU citizenship should have been taken from those of us who voted remain!

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:00

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 22:23

Thankfully eligibility for Irish citizenship is determined by Irish ancestry, and not by adhering to the "correct" political views on the EU.
Here's a link to further info for anyone else who might be interested in exploring their Irish roots, with a view to applying for Irish citizenship - WHICH THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO!
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/

Ooh thanks for that, handy :)

TheQuirkyMaker · 18/11/2025 23:01

Arlanymor · 18/11/2025 18:53

Legal answer: Well even if they said how they voted, voting in our democracy is entirely anonymous and so you couldn't exclude someone from something on the basis of how they voted, because to all intents and purposes you don't know and cannot prove it. They are eligible regardless.

Additional observation: Does it make them raging hypocrites? Of course it does.

But what is wrong? What is the problem? The UK public voted for Brexit,
they ratified it, and got it. It is what the UK wanted.

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:04

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She said friend of a friend.

HRTQueen · 18/11/2025 23:05

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 22:50

But then your angle is to reduce the options for democracy. Dont let the public vote, restrict their options, 'manage the referendum'.

We either support democracy or we dont. With rights (to vote) come responsibility and if you vote for national self harm then yes, expect criticism and anger from your fellow voters. People were warned and called it all project fear.

The referendum and what it would stand for was hardly discussed limited debates there were a few politicians desperately pushing for this but majority were not and really had very little knowledge of how the EU works (understandable it’s extremely complex). This is what MP’s should have and could have pushed for this is their job why we vote for them to work in our best interests

I’m not saying do not feel anger but recognise that anger has conveniently been deflected because we can all be manipulated

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:05

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experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:05

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:04

She said friend of a friend.

Oh well that's ok then 😅😂😆 Question remains.

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:05

And I'm still angry about the result of the referendum and with people who voted for Brexit.

Cattenberg · 18/11/2025 23:06

No, this shouldn't be allowed. Brexiteers voted to strip EU citizenship rights from others without their consent, so they shouldn't be able to keep those rights for themselves.

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:06

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:05

Oh well that's ok then 😅😂😆 Question remains.

Edited

I pointed it out because you seemingly missed it.

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 23:08

So many undemocratic views on this thread. Many of you would make great dictators. If someone votes a way you don't like, you'd strip them of their entitlements.
For people who are so pro-EU and all the freedom that it brings, it's quite ironic that you're espousing views that are calling for a restriction to the democratic right of people to apply for a passport they're entitled to. And all because you don't agree with their views.
In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:08

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:06

I pointed it out because you seemingly missed it.

yeah, I did. Doesn't matter (at all) but cheers.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:10

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 23:08

So many undemocratic views on this thread. Many of you would make great dictators. If someone votes a way you don't like, you'd strip them of their entitlements.
For people who are so pro-EU and all the freedom that it brings, it's quite ironic that you're espousing views that are calling for a restriction to the democratic right of people to apply for a passport they're entitled to. And all because you don't agree with their views.
In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

It's incredibly weird. Such utter tantrum throwing.

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:10

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:08

yeah, I did. Doesn't matter (at all) but cheers.

You said she called her friends hypocrites. She didn't.

Egypt500 · 18/11/2025 23:12

CraftyGin · 18/11/2025 18:51

If they are eligible, it's none of your business. Simmer down.

You are so missing the point.

Genevieva · 18/11/2025 23:13

The idea that someone’s political opinions expressed in a democratic vote should impact their civil right to a passport of a country they are a citizen of under that country’s law is really dystopian. The natural corollary is that you could lose your citizenship for voting for a political party that the winning party doesn’t like.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:13

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:10

You said she called her friends hypocrites. She didn't.

Nope I asked if she called her friend a fucking hypocrite. "You call your "friends" fucking hypocrites?" with a question mark is a question. And asked if she was a fucking hypocrite.

And then I gave my assumption of her answer which would be her lie that she is super edgy and cool and abused that person to her face.

So, here you go "You call your friends of friends a fucking hypocrite to their face? Or are you a fucking hypocrite" - assumed answer which I will preempt "Oh no, I am super edgy and cool and absolutely did abuse the friend of a friend to her face" 😅😂😆

Like I said, didn't matter. At all. But YW.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:16

Genevieva · 18/11/2025 23:13

The idea that someone’s political opinions expressed in a democratic vote should impact their civil right to a passport of a country they are a citizen of under that country’s law is really dystopian. The natural corollary is that you could lose your citizenship for voting for a political party that the winning party doesn’t like.

These people who wish to take away others democratic rights for daring to disagree with them are frighteningly malicious, spiteful and frankly unhinged.

Cattenberg · 18/11/2025 23:19

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 23:08

So many undemocratic views on this thread. Many of you would make great dictators. If someone votes a way you don't like, you'd strip them of their entitlements.
For people who are so pro-EU and all the freedom that it brings, it's quite ironic that you're espousing views that are calling for a restriction to the democratic right of people to apply for a passport they're entitled to. And all because you don't agree with their views.
In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

They voted to take rights from other people and keep them for themselves. It's a bit disingenuous to describe that as "someone votes a way you don't like". We're not talking about five years of Labour when you would have preferred the Conservatives (or vice versa). This is permanent and will limit some people's opportunities in life.

In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

I strongly disagree. But don't worry, the Brexiteers have got their way and there's nothing that people like me can do about it.

ilovesooty · 18/11/2025 23:20

You can't take away someone's eligibility to apply for an EU passport based on their voting for Brexit , but I have nothing but contempt for someone who does so.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:20

Cattenberg · 18/11/2025 23:19

They voted to take rights from other people and keep them for themselves. It's a bit disingenuous to describe that as "someone votes a way you don't like". We're not talking about five years of Labour when you would have preferred the Conservatives (or vice versa). This is permanent and will limit some people's opportunities in life.

In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

I strongly disagree. But don't worry, the Brexiteers have got their way and there's nothing that people like me can do about it.

Voting against the Tories takes Tory rights away from Tory voters who disagree entirely with Labour policies.

So you then deserve to have your democratic rights stripped from you.

This is exactly and precisely the analogy you tried to make.

And it's bollocks, obviously.

zazazaaarmm · 18/11/2025 23:22

CraftyGin · 18/11/2025 18:51

If they are eligible, it's none of your business. Simmer down.

It is our fucking business. They ruined my business, ,they ruined my kids chance to work abroad and my plans to live abroad. They fucked our economy. They made the small boats happen. They encouraged the rhetoric around immigration to be vile. We are allowed to think fuck you to these small minded hypocrites.

experiencehastaughtme · 18/11/2025 23:26

zazazaaarmm · 18/11/2025 23:22

It is our fucking business. They ruined my business, ,they ruined my kids chance to work abroad and my plans to live abroad. They fucked our economy. They made the small boats happen. They encouraged the rhetoric around immigration to be vile. We are allowed to think fuck you to these small minded hypocrites.

Have you heard of radical acceptance therapy? Screaming, shrieking and wailing about something that happened years and years ago and which you have no control over at all is not good for you.

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 23:27

The link once again for anyone wondering about their eligibility for Irish citizenship.
If you do apply, your ancestors would be delighted and very proud of you!
Good luck!
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/

Dutchhouse14 · 18/11/2025 23:28

Well of course it's not enforceable but god it is annoying,definitely call them out on it.
I know several people who have applied for Irish passports since brexit. Think Id read there's been a huge uptake in people applying ,statistically im sure many of them also voted for brexit, infuriating!