Should people who voted for Brexit be allowed to apply for an Irish Passport?

[Berlinlover]

I have two cousins who were born and raised in England who have an Irish father and an English mother. Both my cousins voted for Brexit and are now applying for Irish passports. I’m Irish and living in Ireland and this makes me absolutely furious. They are both women in their 50s who never wanted an Irish passport until now. They have no interest whatsoever in Irish history and anything related to Ireland. They’re not even embarrassed that they voted for Brexit and see an Irish passport as a way of skipping queues at the airport. It seems so unfair on those who voted to remain but don’t have an Irish parent/grandparent so can’t apply for an Irish passport.

I think this is the really shitteous type, a Brexiteer and Boris fan grabbing the Irish passport, all the while supporting those particularly loathsome Tories who were berating Ireland for not supporting GB in the matter, actually saying Ireland owed allegiance to GB out of ‘historical gratitude’!
Why, even Priti ‘Vacant’ Patel, showing a firm grasp of history, proposed that GB literally starve Ireland into submission over Brexit.

It's unreasonable of them, but it would be impossible to prove how anybody voted so I don't think there's really any way of policing this.

The Irish passport is the most powerful in the EU. You can live and work anywhere in the EU or the UK.

I understand why they did it. However, it does seem a tad cheeky.

I think you'' find those of us who are politically aware are furious at the referendum being held in the first place, thats why Dave had to do a runner.

Then furious at the politicians, Labour included, who pushed and pushed and pushed for the vote to be put into law, after all, it was the will of the people. That never needed to happen, not legally binding. But then there would be cries that 'its not democratic'. There would be uproar.

Why shouldn't they be allowed???
Why does it boil your blood??
There are many other things, regarding British State, that boil mine.

I don't know how you'd enforce it but yes, I'd be enraged too!

Why would Ireland get involved in what is a British issue? They are absolutely hypocritical arseholes but it’s not up to Ireland to penalise them,

Thankfully eligibility for Irish citizenship is determined by Irish ancestry, and not by adhering to the "correct" political views on the EU.
Here's a link to further info for anyone else who might be interested in exploring their Irish roots, with a view to applying for Irish citizenship - WHICH THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO!
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/

Plenty of people are raging at the politicians who brought us Brexit. I would like to see them in jail.

Unfortunately many Brexiteers want to see them in government. They voted for arch bullshitter, millionaire with dodgy links to Russia, Boris Johnson to run the country into the ground. Now they want the other Brexit bullshitter, millionaire with dodgy links to Russia, Nigel Farage to ruin things.🤯 Some people just dont learn.🤦‍♀️

But this is not a thread about politicians. It's a thread about the hypocrisy of Leave voters.

The point is they actively sought to deny others the EU freedoms for which they are actively applying by getting an Irish passport.

Their entitlement (and their sense of it is massive) to the passport isn’t the issue.

It’s the rank hypocrisy.

Farage has a German one which he is entitled to I believe from one of his ex wives

I think anyone who voted in favour of Brexit should have their own passports revoked.

My in-laws voted to leave and still ask if our DS are going to live and / or work in Europe (as mil did). They just can’t seem to understand why it’s so much more difficult than it used to be. I also predict (know) that when we go on holiday with them soon and the passport queues are longer than usual for the new biometric checks that they’ll be the first to start grumbling. Boils my piss. I will inform them once of the reason for the delay. After that they’ll be in receipt of a withering look which I am practicing daily!

I hope the Irish government is making lots of money off printing passports for eejits who hopefully will never set foot in Ireland. Its pretty cheap though.

Meanwhile hardworking immigrants to Ireland who have paid lots of taxes into the Irish economy and want to get Irish citizenship have to pay a lot more money, something like €1500, to gain an Irish passport. I feel like it should be the other way round but maybe I am wrong here? But I don't think it would be strange to charge a higher passport fee for people who are not contributing to the Irish economy. Maybe not €1500...for context the UK government charges about £1200 to get a UK passport for people of British descent.

If they are eligible for one than why not? And didn't know there was a Brexit question on passport application form....

No one who voted Brexit should be allowed anything other than a UK passport. I have cut contact with a number of former friends who voted for it, while retaining their own right to live and work in various EU countries.

We should never even have had a referendum to sort out a Tory squabble, let alone acted on the results.

How ridiculous to say people should have passports revoked for voting for Brexit.

As for passport queues, well there is more of the world apart from Europe.

What I don't understand is why there are big queues ( apparently not really seen them myself) if you have to go through a non-eu channel. BUT all the EU citizens can go through the same gates as the UK citizens coming into the UK. Perhaps we should make them all queue separately so get same treatment

They may well be I do remember the initial anger and the odd comment about Dave pops up now and then and of course the Farage hate but I do not see post after post calling out the MP’s who supported having a referendum but I do see post after post calling voters thick dumb etc how many have written to their MP asking them why they voted to support having a referendum when fuck all was in place

point I’m making is we can all be manipulated and it has been very easy to deflect the blame and the anger when the referendum could have been actually managed before it went to voters by way of the mp’s from both sides (and surely remain MP’s would have favoured this more) having full discussions and debates on other words doing their job, but they didn’t and that is where people have been let down right at the start with the very people that could have made a difference the incompetence is staggering

that is how our democracy works but this time it’s failed the public’s best interests spectacularly right from parliament itself

It’s the easiest way to bypass the 90 in 180 days rule in Schengen area.

But then your angle is to reduce the options for democracy. Dont let the public vote, restrict their options, 'manage the referendum'.

We either support democracy or we dont. With rights (to vote) come responsibility and if you vote for national self harm then yes, expect criticism and anger from your fellow voters. People were warned and called it all project fear.

It is estimated that a million people who already had Irish passports were entitled to vote in the referendum - about 50% in Northern Ireland, some in the Republic who were registered to vote in the UK when they lived there, the rest were living in Great Britain. This is alongside about 900,000 from Commonwealth countries who were eligible to vote. How many voted and which way they voted we will never know.

I see the brexshitters are covering themselves in glory on this thread, as they always do...

JFC, there is no should about it. They can and they will if they like.

A complete arsehole friend of a friend of mine did the same.

Fucking hypocrite.