Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

Sigh. As expected… The good news for you is that you can find research and sources of information on the internet - should you be motivated to find it… which I’d guess you’re not, confirmation bias and all that. But one never knows.. Good luck!

You'd rather call a spade a racist than consider whether it's actually a horticultural earth turning implement.

Do you realise that abusing people who have different views makes you a bigot?

How do you like being called names?

Yes we do, have you ever tried the cuisine these folks bring with them? A lot better than a horrifically under seasoned roast chicken and vegetables that’s for sure!

What sort of message does that send?

Absolutely the right one. We are a generous and tolerant country. But cannot accept every man in the world and furnish them with accommodation and money. We cannot accept people and have no idea if they are a criminal or a sexual predator. And most are not fleeing war or persecution.

No. You called the current Labour Party Nazis. Own it.

Exactly.

What on earth are you talking about?

Why? Homes are often have extreme sentimental value. People build their lives and their memories there.

How can you defend councils stealing them because they don’t think pensioners deserve to have them?

(Alternatively: that’s not a sensible description of what’s happening in the care funding case. And if it’s true that items of sentimental value are to be excluded from the new scheme then it’s especially not a sensible description of what’s going on in asylum either).

I became a strong advocate for removing the franchise from the white working class of t

Then you're a fascist

I'm fed up with righteous people, often of the left, who are so certain of their moral correctness, that they feel others with different views should be removed from democracy.

If you can't persuade by argument and example then there's probably something wrong with your theories

Maybe my reply was unclear. I absolutely don’t think we should be building on farmland and on that matter I think that farmers need a better deal.
But on the subject of green grocers- mine does source it can from local farms. Obviously certain foods don’t grow in the UK very easily and personally I think these should be eaten in moderation to reduce the carbon footprint.

In the very deprived area in which I live, the space is not being taken up by migrants (economic or asylum seekers) it is being taken up by big corporations, car parks and general consumption. We do have many asylum seekers and economic migrants where I live, but they are generally packed tightly into hotels or HMO properties (I work with them so visit both). My observation is that they are not draining the system as much as the big corps.

To the contrary, I know that the United Nations, the International Red Cross, Amnesty International, MSF (aka Doctors without Borders), the Migration Observatory at Oxford University and numerous other sources have good research refuting this claim.

Still waiting.

Excellent news. Now to get deporting them en mass.

I don't think their proposals go far enough. They'll be watered down, not much will change and Reform will get in in a few years time. If Labour do make a difference - and I mean a huge difference - down to the 1000's a year rather than 10,000's, they may stand a chance. If not, they'll be out. There's also an estimated million overstayers - they need deporting too. But I bet they won't be.

Fascist? Hardly! You wouldn’t allow a street cleaner to diagnose your health condition would you? That is not fascism, it is simply pragmatic. Allowing the uneducated rabble the same voting privileges as those of us who have been through the education system is folly, and you will see that in 2029.

Do not say that I did not warn thee.

I doubt your DD was vulnerable

Not to mention everyone we deport just tries to break back in anyway.

Swiftasthewind

Either you are absolutely nuts, or Jacob Rees-Mogg, or both.
Do share.

how would you go about doing that though ? From what I've read, many of the people heading here rather than remain in France, Germany or other European countries do so either because they are taught English at school so it's the only foreign language they know, already have relatives living here and/or come from a country associated with the old British Empire.

Agreed. We are overpopulated, we need to go into the minus figures.

Read the posts as parody they’re way better.

Removing the vote from classes of citizens defined by their ethnicity is a massive step to fascism, not away from it.

I’d assume you were making some too-clever point here but I think I’ve seen you say the same on various threads.

People, particularly in former British colonies, grow up learning that Britain is a beacon of hope, fairness and civility. Of course they want that.

Ironic, isn’t it?

As for all the people claiming we are overpopulated, I was in the Lake District a few months ago and there was space for miles. You could certainly set up a few refugee towns in villages in the North West of England. It’s the same on the North Eastern side too.