Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

Exactly. Is there a war going on in Eritrea?

I support asylum seekers. However I believe the vast majority are poverty stricken - I am unaware of statistics - and those who are not would surely prefer to take their chances on the private market rather than live in the hell that is government provided housing for asylum seekers.

It is certainly fair that those seeking asylum should contribute what they can afford to their upkeep. All immigrants do that. I do not see any philosophical grounds for seizing assets on ‘principle’. Employment rights would make this much easier.

Anyone with significant assets would know how to shelter them from HMG. The plan is impractical, aside from anything else.

What I find interesting about this is that we have been told nothing can be done due to the EHCR however just over the water Denmark have put things in place and got more control of the situation. My only concern here is that, yet again, this will be ‘we’re doing this’ when in reality it’ll be a half hearted attempt, blocked by back benchers and civil servants, and won’t get off the ground.

My attitude is that these people have paid £££ to get here, we don’t want them or need them, there are millions in the same (probably worse) situation. Many have views that are incompatible with our culture and way of life. If they are that keen and it’s that bad where they’ve come from they will do anything to meet our rules. The problem currently is that, like thousands already here, they are ‘entitled’ to stuff and that’s the message that needs to change.

Is this changing so people can work?

I suppose the details haven’t been announced. It’ll be a big change if so.

I don’t know what the answer is OP. I absolutely detest the rhetoric against asylum seekers. We are already taking far fewer than neighbouring countries. So all this “we are a small country and can’t take more” is nonsense. Of the net migration, only a few are even asylum seekers and the rest are coming for work/study- surely we aren’t going to take their valuables?! People equate the half a million figure with that many people being in hotels which is just simply untrue, so it’s no wonder they are incensed with rage. Usually the same people who complain about the volume of asylum seekers are also oblivious to the effect of climate change and conflict (of the UK’s making!) which is fuelling the need for asylum.

That being said, I worry about a Reform government and think if Labour don’t do something relatively drastic that Reform would be inevitable. I think we do need to push back on the rhetoric as it seems that people are much more brazen in their expressions of views now. The social contract has changed about what’s acceptable to say.

Interesting to see where Labour supporters fall on this.

How would you get access to assets?

And all this talk about letting them work is ridiculous, there aren’t enough jobs for our own population! I suspect most of them aren’t very well qualified anyway and their English isn’t good). There are thousands of unemployed youngsters and grads, many of whom can’t/dont claim benefits because they are supported by their parents. We don’t need in/low skilled young men.

Quite.

We had huge numbers of immigration, both before Brexit and after Brexit, both legal and illegal, yet the only thing we've managed to grow is the welfare budget.

Economy growth seems elusive despite the huge numbers.

As for gran's necklace, Im sure gran would prefer me to sell it, or to give it, if that would make her grandchildren safer, instead of hoarding it.

We ARE a small country and we ARE extremely overpopulated and that logically means we cannot take any more. How on earth is a country smaller than Michigan able to hold a population of 80 million people? It’s insane. Do you want clean air, locally grown food, wildlife, a low flood risk, nature to enjoy?

Sorry - I'm not really clear based on this comment whether you're classifying me as a Labour supporter? If so, why?

But the problem is people aren’t fleeing war torn countries, they often past through MULTIPLE SAFE countries to come to the UK

if you were fleeing danger you would stop when you become safe, not where you would get the best benefits

It’s absolutely disgusting and a complete travesty in every sense of the word. I have been a Labour advocate all my life, and to see them become Nazis in less than a year is absolutely heartbreaking, but ultimately not surprising given the way the disgusting way working class have shifted recently.

Now I am seriously considering switching to the Greens, who will remain committed to helping bring the disadvantaged of the world to our shores for succour and safety. They will be the real key to stopping the far right from ever taking hold on these shores.

I read an article from a soldier who had been in Afghanistan. His Interpreter is now resident here, one of the people who were evacuated by plane. He watched all his family be executed by the Talliban, children, wife, brothers.
The solider had been in contact with him and wanted to set up a fundraising, go-fund me, etc. The interpreter begged him not to as he says the Taliban are here and he’d be dead by the evening if they found out where he was.
It’s a mess…

Can you please explain how they have become Nazis?

Have you not witnessed this abhorrent new policy on asylum seekers or are all right wingers completely devoid of a neo cortex?

Oh how silly of me, I already know the answer to that question.

On your reaction to the policy on this thread.

How do you see the assets being taken?

So you think that other countries should take all the asylum seekers and the UK have none? People have many reasons for coming to the UK. Risking your life with sometimes over 100 people crammed onto a rubber dinghy is totally worth it for £9 a week and a stay in a shithole Britannia hotel 🤣. Life of luxury that is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg7r803m27o

Read and weep.

I don’t care what other countries do. Good luck to them. The British public have decided we are full, which we are, and they don’t want any more mass or low quality immigration. Their wishes should be respected.

Yep. The Greens LOVE ASYLUM SEEKERS just not very local to them. Much better when they’re houses near ‘other people’, they can then advocate for them from afar.

But we all have to do it in hard times. Old people have to sell homes they have lived in for 60 years, all the time, if they need care.

Where is your compassion for them? Or doesn't it extend that far ?

Wealthy? Working your entire life to own your own home isn't necessarily wealthy

no we should only take legal immigrants that apply and follow the correct routes.

Ok, but you’re talking out of your arse about them getting the best benefits. This is the problem these days, people read so much rubbish about asylum seekers and all sorts of topics and form their opinions based on it and then claim that those opinions as just as valid as an informed person’s view. It’s a cesspit out there.