Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

Wtaf are you on about?

It's actually quite interesting to look into second and third gens. Some people are pulled between their family's traditions from former homeland and the local customs and behaviours of where they grew up. It can end up with some people feeling they don't belong anywhere. The identity crisis then makes them a good target for radicalisation.
I read some really interesting accounts of young third gens about it and it's quite eye opening.

Ah, the BBC….

And if all these Brits were diverse, what happened? Did they inter-marry? If so that would surely show up in ancestry tests.

Good point. I think that has successfully shut down the ridiculous diversity argument.

Do you mean that asylum seekers may be allowed to work whilst their claim is being processed? I'd really welcome that. I have an asylum seeker friend whose claim has gone on for years. He hates not being allowed to work. He's bored and gets dodgy offers all the time of ways he could be making money. He fills his time cleaning doing maintenance work as a volunteer in our church.

The church would happily pay him but we can't because it's illegal and we have to make sure he doesn't volunteer too much because it could be seen as taking advantage of him.

If he could legally work it would improve his life massively and he'd be contributing to the country more.

Would also help if claims didn't take years to process but I do understand it is very complex

I know. It is a Europe-wide scandal. The UK and Germany, Greece, Italy, Sweden - horrific. But being brushed under the carpet by those in power. Our women and girls are at risk and no one’s looking after them / us. We’re being told it’s not an issue. The German data tells us what we already knew - it’s a big issue. That’s why the uk and other countries aren’t publishing the data.

Its not that complex. It takes years because of human rights lawyers doing multiple appeals against deportation.

I seem to recall an incident in Germany where a young girl was sexually assaulted by a migrant man (I think from Afghanistan but my memory could be incorrect on that one) and in the his defence it was determined that he felt so utterly alien and alone in Germany, cast out by society and such, that it in some way contributed to why he did what he did.

Now obviously there is never an acceptable answer for why somebody may commit a horrific crime like that, but it did go some way into showing the effects that oppression and alienation have in cultures where being someone from a minority background is seen as other and different. The point I’m trying to put across is, it isn’t fair to take black and white people and expect them to have an exactly aligned statistical likelihood when it comes to committing crime. Other factors do lead into these things and yes, oppression is one such example.

But it’s categorically not an issue. Crime is down across the board, you have never been more safer in this country. Immigration does not increase crime, it reduces it.

The government of the UK (including the last one) arent protecting us for whatever reason. And the first duty of a government is to defend its people. So I dont understand what is going on and why we are so paralysed. The number of men coming in on boats now exceed the British army.

Ok now you are being silly and I suspect you are a teenage boy on a wind up.

Maybe do your own ethnographic research. Go to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, any Muslim African country - see how welcome you’d be. Spend a few months in each country. Then let us know how you go. Deal?

Sounds like a good idea.

Ok so if some white man raped you or your daughter and said it was because he hadn't got out much and was socially inept and a bit disconnected as he had been playing Call of Duty at home too long, should we use that as his defence and try and understand his "motive"

I think you are on a wind up.

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They are fleeing France. They only want to come here instead of all the countries they have passed though as they know they are in for a free ride by our way too generous policies.

And no there is no difference. Arguably 'stealing' the PP"s dad"s home is a lot worse as this is his home, where memories were made and he worked his whole life to get it. Now it is all gone. Plus he has already paid into the system for his whole life, he isnt getting something for nothing. I'd rather someone steal a necklace from me than my house.

What do you feel we should be doing? You was to deal with the 'racists' (90% if mumsnetters from your pole) so say that worked. That 90% are now silent and now love the people coming over from boats. So what next? Do we now just bury our heads in the sand and keep finding more and more housing and funds to keep them. Over 500 have arrived in the last few days. That's 500 more homes needed and people to fund than last week. How long do we let this continue before we finally face facts that this is not viable?

There is a massive issue with housing in the UK right now. The council / social housing lists are already maxed out, so we are not able to provide adequate housing for our own in need.

People can see how divisive this issue is - and yet, rather than willingly press pause on illegal immigration, so that a proper debate can be had, they insist on carrying on, as is.

Madness.

Theres no need for more debate. Reform are in in 2029 unless immigration is sorted. Most of the country clearly agree.

They should pay towards the support they're given

Wait... do you genuinely think a horse being born in a stable is what makes it a horse? How embarrassing 🤣🤣🤣

Four more years of this?

There will be civil unrest, no question - particularly when it comes on top of Labour’s other corrosive/device policies.

They should implement a hard stop on illegal immigration now - that’s my point.

Only about half of asylum seekers arrive in small boats.

France Spain and Italy each have more asylum applications than the UK. (So not really a "Golden Ticket" here?) Germany has over double the number.

The majority of people would prefer lower inward migration. But that doesnt mean they all agree with ANY policy with that as an aim. Nor does it mean it is higher in importance than the NHS or housing or education for everyone.

The new Labour policy looks very much like an attempt to appear tough on migrants in a way that will alienate liberal voters and won't convince Reform voters to switch. And, in my view, probably won't work in terms of impacting on levels of asylum.

I am not a troll hunter but when someone is going out of their way to be obnoxious on many levels, it makes you wonder what’s going on in their head. Also some of their posts were so outrageous I would expect MN to be having a word.

Did it f*ck. A desperate excuse by a violent man.