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To be angry at my Dad for not sharing his relationship?

173 replies

Halie · 14/11/2025 14:03

For context, my parents have been divorced 20+ years. Mum remarried, Dad dated briefly but stayed alone for 19 years and never let go of his negativity towards Mum. His house was like a time capsule and looked exactly as it was when he divorced. Dad drinks a lot and has an alcohol dependency (since before his divorce). We were raised by my Dad. Very sad childhood. Completely dysfunctional at home. Too much to go into here.

He had his faults (many!!) but he never saw us go without - whether that be a winter coat, pair of shoes, a home cooked meal, he supported our education and would always help in whatever way he could. We were relatively close, or so I thought. Since I've lived away (10 years) we've always had a weekly phone call of at least an hour, and I would go to see him every other month (I live 200 miles away and drive, he doesn't have a licence) and would stay for the weekend with my husband.

About a year ago I became pregnant and was ill throughout so I could not visit him. We kept up with calls (some weeks he calls, some weeks I do) but I noticed the calls were rushed (5-15 mins) whereas in the past it was difficult to end the call and often it had been 2 hours (he was drunk most calls). Eventually he told me he'd met someone when I suggested he comes to visit as he had plans with them that weekend. He told me it was private and he doesn't want to talk about it as it was early days. He came to visit once in the 9 months I was pregant. I did try to gently broach the topic of his relationship. He shut it down except for confirming it was still ongoing.

I gave birth 9 weeks ago. He hasn't been to visit his grandchild (who I named after him). He has been travelling to Europe and across the UK for holidays throughout the year (out of character). He is still with the mystery person a year on and he alludes to them but won't talk about them (e.g. if I ask his plans for the weekend "oh we're going to have lunch out". He never went abroad or bought anything for himself since I was born - suddenly he's on holidays all the time AND has renovated his house. This is a man who bought a halogen cooker rather than get his broken oven fixed (for 20 yrs) and left his broken toilet and sink in the bathroom for years as he had a downstairs loo (and sooo much more stuff!).

He called me the day I was discharged from hospital after birth (I had to stay a week as myself and child were unwell) to ask what belongings of my mine from my childhood home he could take to the tip (in his partners car) as he was having more renovations. I found it incredibly insensitive.

He called today to ask if he could visit tonight (random - very short notice) or tomorrow morning. I said yes, no problem but perhaps the morning after the storm has passed as the trains will likely be affected and it gives me chance to sort a room. He told me "I won't be getting the train, we're coming up in the car and staying at a local cottage".

I didn't really know what to say so I said that's fine.

So now I'm sat wondering if and why some random person is going to meet my baby and why he is keeping this part of his life so secretive. I feel I don't know him anymore and I don't want to meet this mystery person for the first time with my baby.

AIBU??

Should I call back for clarity? What do I say? I have thought about many reasons for his behaviour...shame (maybe he's gay?), jealously, guilt...

OP posts:
JLou08 · 14/11/2025 18:00

My mum doesn't talk about her relationships either. I imagine it feels weird for her to discuss that with her daughter and that's fine with me. It sounds like this new relationship has been really positive for him, house being cleared and lots of experiences and travel. I'd be happy for my parent to be experiencing that.
My childhood room was cleared within weeks of me leaving. It sounds like the only reason yours wasn't was due to your dad lacking the motivation to do it.

diddl · 14/11/2025 18:03

How long are they staying altogether?

Perhaps your dad could be dropped off so that he can see you & baby alone & then you could take him to the cottage & say a quick hello to partner?

FullLondonEye · 14/11/2025 18:05

Zempy · 14/11/2025 14:13

I also wonder if the DP is same sex? Or significantly younger? Or a different ethnicity (not accusing you of racism but he might have some unconscious bias around his own choice?) or possibly there’s a class or education factor?

Only one way to find out! Buckle up OP and prepare to report back if you so choose. 💐

I'm assuming there must be some kind of reason along those lines and, as uncomfortable as it might be, curiosity would compel me to go along with it. I would like to hear how it went.

You sound like you have quite a good relationship with your father in general so I'm wondering why you haven't felt able to just ask in a straightforward manner this person's name or other questions. It wouldn't be prying or unreasonably nosy if you jusy kept to the basics. Presumably when you started having relationships he would ask you things like that person's name? It's really a very normal, standard question and it wouldn't be at all out of order as long as you used a gentle tone rather than barking at him...

HonoriaBulstrode · 14/11/2025 18:06

But it turns out he had been seeing her for around two years and no one had any idea. He had kept her a secret because he knew the rest of his family would react to his new relationship in an excruciating manner. And they largely did.

But if the woman were to post on Mumsnet about not having met his family, she'd be told red flags all round - are you sure he's single - he's probably married and you're his bit on the side.

There's a thread like that running today.

Purplebunnie · 14/11/2025 18:06

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:04

I am, 100%. We always encouraged him to get out more, find a group/hobby/travel etc but he was too depressed, always working, had no money. So I'm so glad he is finally experiencing happiness as life is way too short. But I don't understand why he has kept this part of his life so secretive and why he is acting differently towards his children and not including us in his new life.

He kept the relationship secret until he was sure it had a future and now he feels secure enough to include you all would be my take on it

Americano75 · 14/11/2025 18:15

CommanderTaggart · 14/11/2025 17:42

My first thought was that his partner is a man.

Me too.

Lastfroginthebox · 14/11/2025 18:16

The title says you're angry at your dad for not sharing his relationship so I don't understand why you wouldn't be pleased that he's offering to do just that.

ButtonMushrooms · 14/11/2025 18:21

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:31

This is the only place I've mentioned it or asked for advice - under a fake name on the Internet. I haven't spoken to my family about it. I haven't bothered my Dad about it, he said no and I have not asked for a whole year! I couldn't be more sensitive and respectful.
How is that me making a big deal of it? If the right to private life means keeping our close family relationships private from our other close relationships, by that logic should I just not talk to him about my husband, not introduce him to our baby? Because that's my private life. No, that is ridiculous.

Don't worry OP, you are not making a big deal of this by posting anonymously on MN. The whole point of MN is to post this kind of thing and ask for advice!

Pepperedpickles · 14/11/2025 18:25

Halie · 14/11/2025 15:58

I totally get why you'd think that given the only context is my post...but my Dad raised us as a single parent on hardly any money with no support and he had to remortgage to keep a roof over our heads. Theres a lot more to it. Essentially, his coping mechanism was and as an adult now I have a lot of empathy for him that I lacked as a child. It was no means ideal but without him I would have been in care.

I’m saying this kindly as someone who had an alcoholic and schizophrenic mother and who did spend time in care- you do realise that that’s the bare minimum any parent should provide, don’t you? He doesn’t get to be Dad of the year now because he provided what he was supposed to when you were a child. I think you have some very strange rose tinted glasses on. Self protection maybe, because it would hurt to see it any other way.

Halie · 14/11/2025 18:31

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/11/2025 17:48

Could be;

Quick visit so he can get to the pub before he gets the shakes.

Quick visit so he isn't overwhelmed.

Quick visit so you don't feel under pressure.

Quick visit so if it goes horribly wrong, there's an excuse to leave rather than 'walking out' or it turning into an argument.

Quick visit because he feels like he'd be imposing on you.

Quick visit because he's worried you might be very hostile to him/his partner.

Quick visit because he's anxious and his partner has said 'Just go. Say it's a quick visit. You don't 'need' a drink for a quick visit'.

Thank you, that's a perspective I hadn't considered.

OP posts:
AliceMaforethought · 14/11/2025 18:31

PInkyStarfish · 14/11/2025 15:12

New partner is a bloke, a younger bloke.

How do you know?

Cornishclio · 14/11/2025 18:41

There could be any number of reasons for your Dad not making a big deal of this relationship and no doubt they are making the journey now to meet your baby and see you. If he doesn’t drive then obviously partner coming means they can come by car and make a weekend of it by booking a cottage and also avoid putting you out.

I wouldn’t make a big deal of it but just be glad he finally feels able to introduce you to his partner. No need for drama.

Autumnleaffall · 14/11/2025 19:09

You are not being unreasonable but he is seeking to control your reaction. Let them come, be prepared for anything, have someone with you. Keep it low key, listen, don’t overthink or react until you have time to mull it over.

BoyOhBoyFTM · 14/11/2025 19:20

Similar happened here. My previously wonderful FIL, a dedicated father, a dedicated family man, was widowed 5 years ago. Him and DH were so, so close. Remained a lovely father/FIL UNTIL he met a woman 18 months ago.

All out the window now. We have a 15 month old, his first granchild, and he has seen him TWICE. He goes abroad for holidays every month. He helps this woman (who is younger and has a teenage son) financially and practically (she lives 2 doors down!!). He never calls anymore. When we call him, he cuts us off after 5 minutes.

He's 58 and of sound mind, took early retirement.

My DH is heartbroken. Having a child brings up a lot of feelings and he obviously misses his mum but he's now also mourning the loss of a relationship with his dad. Awful stuff.

VictoriaEra2 · 14/11/2025 19:47

I’ve said this before, but my BF has never told an y of his family about me. We’ve been together ten years and he’s lived at mine for three. I used to mind but now I really am not bothered. There must be a reason.
If your dad now wants you to meet his partner that’s surely good.

Neftrious · 14/11/2025 19:52

Could it be that he has kept the partner a secret because he knew you wouldn’t take it well?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 14/11/2025 19:52

Just be happy for him. At this point, nothing can be gained from driving a wedge between you.

5128gap · 14/11/2025 20:02

I think you need to prepare for some complicated feelings.
No one who was raised by an alcoholic in a dysfunctional home emerges unscathed, and you have not only that to deal with, but also an adult relationship with a father who only engaged with you when drunk and lived a life that caused you concern and likely made you vigilant about his welfare.
Because he was a single father rather than mother, people responding are focusing on how he 'did his best' rather than the harm he did you. And urging you to 'be happy for him' ignores what you went through in a way would never be the case if you were speaking of your mother.
To now see him doing all these 'normal' things for a mystery person while barely bothering with you is going to cause a LOT of emotions. If I were you I'd take my time to process them and not feel pressured into seeing him at his convenience if you don't yet want to.

BanditoShipman · 14/11/2025 20:16

BoyOhBoyFTM · 14/11/2025 19:20

Similar happened here. My previously wonderful FIL, a dedicated father, a dedicated family man, was widowed 5 years ago. Him and DH were so, so close. Remained a lovely father/FIL UNTIL he met a woman 18 months ago.

All out the window now. We have a 15 month old, his first granchild, and he has seen him TWICE. He goes abroad for holidays every month. He helps this woman (who is younger and has a teenage son) financially and practically (she lives 2 doors down!!). He never calls anymore. When we call him, he cuts us off after 5 minutes.

He's 58 and of sound mind, took early retirement.

My DH is heartbroken. Having a child brings up a lot of feelings and he obviously misses his mum but he's now also mourning the loss of a relationship with his dad. Awful stuff.

If it makes your DH feel any better, we’ve had this exact situation. Lovely FIL, widowed, met new woman, now not seeing his family or grandchildren. Acting completely differently, spending all his time with new partner’s children/grandchildren. His children have basically lost their mother and their father. Apparently it can be common, they get a ‘new lease of life’ 🙄 and start acting like a 16 year old. I thought it might wear off over time but it’s been 5 years.

beAsensible1 · 14/11/2025 20:25

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:57

But he hasn't mentioned introducing them at all? That's my point.

What would make me happy? Sensible, grown up, consistent and transparent communication without alcohol included and an end to the dysfunctional patterns I have witnessed and lived amongst my entire life. I can guarantee 100% he'll suggest a pub to meet.

so why don't you suggest somewhere else first, he's coming to your neck of the woods. make a plan in a cafe or have him over. That then gives you the opening to ask if his DP is coming so you can be sure of numbers for the booking.

readingmakesmehappy · 14/11/2025 20:28

I would want him to come on his own. I hated having people I didn’t know well in my home when my babies were tiny. One of DH’s friends came to visit and brought her mum who I’d never met before, and they stayed for lunch, and I was desperate for them to go by the end as the effort of holding up conversation was just too much for me.

beAsensible1 · 14/11/2025 20:31

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:23

Yes, I often do suggest coffee shops etc because if I leave it to him it is inevitably a pub and not even a family friendly type. He does complain that Costa etc doesn't serve what he's after but it's nice just to catch an hour of him sober especially as we rarely see one another now.

I actually don't mind meeting his partner. If fact, I would like to. I would just like him to talk about it normally e.g "So I'm coming up with my partner (name) and I'd like for you to finally meet as you're both really important to me, would that be okay? I'd really love to meet little one too." But no, I get "We're coming up in their car and we're staying in a cottage. We can meet tonight or tomorrow in the day. Only for an hour though, it's a quick visit."
Doesn't make sense to me. So is he saying it's just him, or him and mystery person and how / why a quick visit when he's travelled 200 miles and booked a place to stay. Just odd to me.

this reads as someone who is highly nervous about the whole situation and doesn't want to burden you with a prolonged meeting or an easy out if it doesn't go well.

he is obviously worried and trying to mitigate, the is all about how he feels and nothing about you. i think a bit of grace on this is the best way to go.

Krakinou · 14/11/2025 20:31

I feel for you. My FIL has been divorced and increasingly bitter about it for over 30 years without dating. I think when his wife left he totally focused on his kids and it became a sort of identity to be alone. He doesn’t really travel anywhere. We live a 1 hour flight away but he won’t come to visit us ever - we always go to him - even though he’s retired, plenty of money and healthy. He drinks too much and doesn’t really ask his kids about themselves even though he’s a doting grandad to my nieces. My DP is really sad about the lack of open communication too.

But it sounds like the new partner might be really good for your Dad. So I think you should do as PP suggested and invite your dad to do what you’d be comfortable with. “Let’s meet at costas, just the two of us (and baby)”.

MummyJ36 · 14/11/2025 20:44

OP I’m so sorry he has shown such little interest in your pregnancy and your new baby (that you named after him!!). Regardless of whether he wants to keep this relationship private or not, he has not shown you a level of care or support during a totally life changing time for you and for that I think I would be really disappointed in him.

You may as well meet the new partner and see what you think but he sounds like a pretty absent parent beyond this.

OneDivineHammer · 14/11/2025 20:44

Americano75 · 14/11/2025 18:15

Me too.

Me three.