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To be angry at my Dad for not sharing his relationship?

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Halie · 14/11/2025 14:03

For context, my parents have been divorced 20+ years. Mum remarried, Dad dated briefly but stayed alone for 19 years and never let go of his negativity towards Mum. His house was like a time capsule and looked exactly as it was when he divorced. Dad drinks a lot and has an alcohol dependency (since before his divorce). We were raised by my Dad. Very sad childhood. Completely dysfunctional at home. Too much to go into here.

He had his faults (many!!) but he never saw us go without - whether that be a winter coat, pair of shoes, a home cooked meal, he supported our education and would always help in whatever way he could. We were relatively close, or so I thought. Since I've lived away (10 years) we've always had a weekly phone call of at least an hour, and I would go to see him every other month (I live 200 miles away and drive, he doesn't have a licence) and would stay for the weekend with my husband.

About a year ago I became pregnant and was ill throughout so I could not visit him. We kept up with calls (some weeks he calls, some weeks I do) but I noticed the calls were rushed (5-15 mins) whereas in the past it was difficult to end the call and often it had been 2 hours (he was drunk most calls). Eventually he told me he'd met someone when I suggested he comes to visit as he had plans with them that weekend. He told me it was private and he doesn't want to talk about it as it was early days. He came to visit once in the 9 months I was pregant. I did try to gently broach the topic of his relationship. He shut it down except for confirming it was still ongoing.

I gave birth 9 weeks ago. He hasn't been to visit his grandchild (who I named after him). He has been travelling to Europe and across the UK for holidays throughout the year (out of character). He is still with the mystery person a year on and he alludes to them but won't talk about them (e.g. if I ask his plans for the weekend "oh we're going to have lunch out". He never went abroad or bought anything for himself since I was born - suddenly he's on holidays all the time AND has renovated his house. This is a man who bought a halogen cooker rather than get his broken oven fixed (for 20 yrs) and left his broken toilet and sink in the bathroom for years as he had a downstairs loo (and sooo much more stuff!).

He called me the day I was discharged from hospital after birth (I had to stay a week as myself and child were unwell) to ask what belongings of my mine from my childhood home he could take to the tip (in his partners car) as he was having more renovations. I found it incredibly insensitive.

He called today to ask if he could visit tonight (random - very short notice) or tomorrow morning. I said yes, no problem but perhaps the morning after the storm has passed as the trains will likely be affected and it gives me chance to sort a room. He told me "I won't be getting the train, we're coming up in the car and staying at a local cottage".

I didn't really know what to say so I said that's fine.

So now I'm sat wondering if and why some random person is going to meet my baby and why he is keeping this part of his life so secretive. I feel I don't know him anymore and I don't want to meet this mystery person for the first time with my baby.

AIBU??

Should I call back for clarity? What do I say? I have thought about many reasons for his behaviour...shame (maybe he's gay?), jealously, guilt...

OP posts:
MyLimeGuide · 14/11/2025 17:22

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:58

I don't really understand why I'm getting piled on (not just by you yours is just the latest quote). OP has said that she does not want to meet them for the first time with the baby there, which as one of the child's parents is her right. The baby won't give a hoot about who's who, never suggested the baby would care but OP does and thats why I'm trying to support OP.

I also thought your suggestions made sense! 🙂

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:23

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 17:03

Fair enough. I think you might need to take the initiative to get the ball rolling though. So, can you suggest a place to meet - cafe? And invite just him or "the two of you" as you'd prefer? Yes, he's being vague, but I suppose it leaves you room to ask for what you want to happen.

Yes, I often do suggest coffee shops etc because if I leave it to him it is inevitably a pub and not even a family friendly type. He does complain that Costa etc doesn't serve what he's after but it's nice just to catch an hour of him sober especially as we rarely see one another now.

I actually don't mind meeting his partner. If fact, I would like to. I would just like him to talk about it normally e.g "So I'm coming up with my partner (name) and I'd like for you to finally meet as you're both really important to me, would that be okay? I'd really love to meet little one too." But no, I get "We're coming up in their car and we're staying in a cottage. We can meet tonight or tomorrow in the day. Only for an hour though, it's a quick visit."
Doesn't make sense to me. So is he saying it's just him, or him and mystery person and how / why a quick visit when he's travelled 200 miles and booked a place to stay. Just odd to me.

OP posts:
MyLimeGuide · 14/11/2025 17:26

RubySquid · 14/11/2025 14:50

Wtf? How would a BABY know or care about hus grandfather's partner?.

Id be more concerned in case the grandfather was drunk tbh

Lol

Keroppi · 14/11/2025 17:26

Ask him when you see him

MyLimeGuide · 14/11/2025 17:28

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:23

Yes, I often do suggest coffee shops etc because if I leave it to him it is inevitably a pub and not even a family friendly type. He does complain that Costa etc doesn't serve what he's after but it's nice just to catch an hour of him sober especially as we rarely see one another now.

I actually don't mind meeting his partner. If fact, I would like to. I would just like him to talk about it normally e.g "So I'm coming up with my partner (name) and I'd like for you to finally meet as you're both really important to me, would that be okay? I'd really love to meet little one too." But no, I get "We're coming up in their car and we're staying in a cottage. We can meet tonight or tomorrow in the day. Only for an hour though, it's a quick visit."
Doesn't make sense to me. So is he saying it's just him, or him and mystery person and how / why a quick visit when he's travelled 200 miles and booked a place to stay. Just odd to me.

That definately does sound very weird! Maybe the new partner is mega controlling? Or they have hardcore anxiety or something?

Cucy · 14/11/2025 17:30

You need to just talk to him about it.

Just text him and say - “just checking, is it just you coming and are you staying for just 1 night?”

You have to be the one to say it if he isn’t going to.

It seems you both don’t know how to bring it up and a both a bit awkward.

FWIW I keep my relationships secret from my DD (although she’s younger).
I’ve always kept them secret at first like you do with everyone but then it becomes difficult to know how to bring the two lives together, especially if he’s been single a long time.

If he’s been single a long time then this is all new to him.
He had to relearn how to be something other than a parent and find himself again and then learn how to be in a relationship again.
Now he needs to learn how to be a parent to an adult, a grandad and in a relationship.
It’s all unfamiliar territory.
You will learn that being parent comes with these extra challenges that no one prepares you for and for him this is one of them.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 17:31

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:23

Yes, I often do suggest coffee shops etc because if I leave it to him it is inevitably a pub and not even a family friendly type. He does complain that Costa etc doesn't serve what he's after but it's nice just to catch an hour of him sober especially as we rarely see one another now.

I actually don't mind meeting his partner. If fact, I would like to. I would just like him to talk about it normally e.g "So I'm coming up with my partner (name) and I'd like for you to finally meet as you're both really important to me, would that be okay? I'd really love to meet little one too." But no, I get "We're coming up in their car and we're staying in a cottage. We can meet tonight or tomorrow in the day. Only for an hour though, it's a quick visit."
Doesn't make sense to me. So is he saying it's just him, or him and mystery person and how / why a quick visit when he's travelled 200 miles and booked a place to stay. Just odd to me.

Some of my older relatives are like this, mostly without even the excuse of the alcohol. It can be very frustrating. But I have to guess they think they are doing the right thing in the right way, because they are like this with each other and with everyone.

I've never had to face it with a newborn in the mix though! Hope you are able to get something out of it but I do understand the frustration.

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:31

SpoonBaloon · 14/11/2025 17:02

There is a man in my family who has never married and had never had a serious relationship. There’s nothing wrong with him - he has a fairly good career, his own home, is sociable, drives, doesn’t have a drink problem etc. But he had never met anyone.

A few years ago he was seen out with a woman. There’s nothing “wrong” with her either. She’s his age, has a good job and her own home, no previous marriages, no kids, is from the area etc.

But it turns out he had been seeing her for around two years and no one had any idea. He had kept her a secret because he knew the rest of his family would react to his new relationship in an excruciating manner. And they largely did. Sometimes the reaction from our closest loved ones can be too much.

A man or woman meeting someone isn’t a big deal. But you’ve made it into a big deal because you’re posting about it on Mumsnet.

Your father is allowed to have a private life.

This is the only place I've mentioned it or asked for advice - under a fake name on the Internet. I haven't spoken to my family about it. I haven't bothered my Dad about it, he said no and I have not asked for a whole year! I couldn't be more sensitive and respectful.
How is that me making a big deal of it? If the right to private life means keeping our close family relationships private from our other close relationships, by that logic should I just not talk to him about my husband, not introduce him to our baby? Because that's my private life. No, that is ridiculous.

OP posts:
muggart · 14/11/2025 17:31

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:57

But he hasn't mentioned introducing them at all? That's my point.

What would make me happy? Sensible, grown up, consistent and transparent communication without alcohol included and an end to the dysfunctional patterns I have witnessed and lived amongst my entire life. I can guarantee 100% he'll suggest a pub to meet.

well then definitely don’t tell the partner not to come! maybe he’s delayed so long because he thinks you’ll make it difficult, so if you do this it will play into all his fears (even if they are unfounded).

why do you think he might be gay? is there more to this theory? if my parent were cagey i’d assume it’s because their new relationship is not exclusive or committed, i wouldn’t think they were gay.

PullTheBricksDown · 14/11/2025 17:33

MyLimeGuide · 14/11/2025 17:28

That definately does sound very weird! Maybe the new partner is mega controlling? Or they have hardcore anxiety or something?

Or, maybe the partner has been saying 'I'd love to meet your family, can we go and visit!' and he's less keen - would fit with his past record - but to placate them he's agreed to a short visit, perhaps while they're in the area to do something else.

muggart · 14/11/2025 17:34

maybe he’s hiding his partner because he doesn’t want you to share details about the more dysfunctional parts of your childhood with her? I reckon that’s it. he doesn’t want you to let slip that he’s an alcoholic and that sort of thing.

PullTheBricksDown · 14/11/2025 17:36

Say straight out that you don't want to meet in a pub if he suggests it. And be prepared to say 'actually, let's just leave it' if he is difficult.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 17:38

muggart · 14/11/2025 17:34

maybe he’s hiding his partner because he doesn’t want you to share details about the more dysfunctional parts of your childhood with her? I reckon that’s it. he doesn’t want you to let slip that he’s an alcoholic and that sort of thing.

That has crossed my mind too - he may be ashamed of some past behaviours and uncomfortable about the two of you meeting up for that reason.

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 14/11/2025 17:38

As hes been out of a relationship for 20 odd years he probably feels weird & awkward about it. Just be happy for him op. Sounds like hes finally moved on.

Randomlygeneratedname · 14/11/2025 17:39

There is no way on this planet I would be able to wait till tomorrow. I would have to meet him/them tonight otherwise I wouldn't sleep. I'm already overly interested and I don't even know these people. I absolutely think there is something he is worrying about with the new person, male maybe, or really young.

CommanderTaggart · 14/11/2025 17:42

My first thought was that his partner is a man.

MillicentMaybe · 14/11/2025 17:46

You know that phone that you speak to him regularly on? Pick it up and talk to him about the visit.

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 14/11/2025 17:47

I don’t really think he’s done anything wrong. It sounds like he tried his best and you clearly love him. I had to ask my daughter to take her things two years after she had bought her own house and to be honest she made me feel really guilty but actually it’s not practical to have things at your parents’ home when you’ve created your own life with your own home. Likewise, it sounds like you moved away which isn’t his fault and he hasn’t tried to make you feel bad about that (as he shouldn’t but plenty of parents do) of course when someone enters a new relationship they have a little less time for other people in their life. I probably would struggle with meeting a new partner at the same time my parent met my baby for the 1st time so perhaps you could call and ask some things about him / her, whether they’re visiting or staying in the cottage etc? I would try and be happy that he’s moving on though.

Pinkbowls · 14/11/2025 17:48

Maybe it’s a man

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/11/2025 17:48

Halie · 14/11/2025 17:23

Yes, I often do suggest coffee shops etc because if I leave it to him it is inevitably a pub and not even a family friendly type. He does complain that Costa etc doesn't serve what he's after but it's nice just to catch an hour of him sober especially as we rarely see one another now.

I actually don't mind meeting his partner. If fact, I would like to. I would just like him to talk about it normally e.g "So I'm coming up with my partner (name) and I'd like for you to finally meet as you're both really important to me, would that be okay? I'd really love to meet little one too." But no, I get "We're coming up in their car and we're staying in a cottage. We can meet tonight or tomorrow in the day. Only for an hour though, it's a quick visit."
Doesn't make sense to me. So is he saying it's just him, or him and mystery person and how / why a quick visit when he's travelled 200 miles and booked a place to stay. Just odd to me.

Could be;

Quick visit so he can get to the pub before he gets the shakes.

Quick visit so he isn't overwhelmed.

Quick visit so you don't feel under pressure.

Quick visit so if it goes horribly wrong, there's an excuse to leave rather than 'walking out' or it turning into an argument.

Quick visit because he feels like he'd be imposing on you.

Quick visit because he's worried you might be very hostile to him/his partner.

Quick visit because he's anxious and his partner has said 'Just go. Say it's a quick visit. You don't 'need' a drink for a quick visit'.

Itworkedout · 14/11/2025 17:48

I wouldn’t call him back just wait and see. It’s only an hour and if he hasn’t given you a name it’s unlikely you will meet the partner. He is being secretive for a reason maybe he just finds it hard to talk about after so long on his own. But I think it may be worth a prompt of I’m happy if you are happy etc. Maybe he will relax a bit.

Schoolchoicesucks · 14/11/2025 17:49

Do you have firm plans for where you are meeting him? Is he coming to your home? If you feel up to it (enlist DH) then do try and prepare for all eventualities. Him alone, him with the other person, them being male/young/from overseas etc.
I don't know why he is being secretive about it, but the willingness to travel, to spend money on his house, travel, meet someone do all sound positive.
I hope it goes well.

sunshinestar1986 · 14/11/2025 17:56

Halie · 14/11/2025 14:03

For context, my parents have been divorced 20+ years. Mum remarried, Dad dated briefly but stayed alone for 19 years and never let go of his negativity towards Mum. His house was like a time capsule and looked exactly as it was when he divorced. Dad drinks a lot and has an alcohol dependency (since before his divorce). We were raised by my Dad. Very sad childhood. Completely dysfunctional at home. Too much to go into here.

He had his faults (many!!) but he never saw us go without - whether that be a winter coat, pair of shoes, a home cooked meal, he supported our education and would always help in whatever way he could. We were relatively close, or so I thought. Since I've lived away (10 years) we've always had a weekly phone call of at least an hour, and I would go to see him every other month (I live 200 miles away and drive, he doesn't have a licence) and would stay for the weekend with my husband.

About a year ago I became pregnant and was ill throughout so I could not visit him. We kept up with calls (some weeks he calls, some weeks I do) but I noticed the calls were rushed (5-15 mins) whereas in the past it was difficult to end the call and often it had been 2 hours (he was drunk most calls). Eventually he told me he'd met someone when I suggested he comes to visit as he had plans with them that weekend. He told me it was private and he doesn't want to talk about it as it was early days. He came to visit once in the 9 months I was pregant. I did try to gently broach the topic of his relationship. He shut it down except for confirming it was still ongoing.

I gave birth 9 weeks ago. He hasn't been to visit his grandchild (who I named after him). He has been travelling to Europe and across the UK for holidays throughout the year (out of character). He is still with the mystery person a year on and he alludes to them but won't talk about them (e.g. if I ask his plans for the weekend "oh we're going to have lunch out". He never went abroad or bought anything for himself since I was born - suddenly he's on holidays all the time AND has renovated his house. This is a man who bought a halogen cooker rather than get his broken oven fixed (for 20 yrs) and left his broken toilet and sink in the bathroom for years as he had a downstairs loo (and sooo much more stuff!).

He called me the day I was discharged from hospital after birth (I had to stay a week as myself and child were unwell) to ask what belongings of my mine from my childhood home he could take to the tip (in his partners car) as he was having more renovations. I found it incredibly insensitive.

He called today to ask if he could visit tonight (random - very short notice) or tomorrow morning. I said yes, no problem but perhaps the morning after the storm has passed as the trains will likely be affected and it gives me chance to sort a room. He told me "I won't be getting the train, we're coming up in the car and staying at a local cottage".

I didn't really know what to say so I said that's fine.

So now I'm sat wondering if and why some random person is going to meet my baby and why he is keeping this part of his life so secretive. I feel I don't know him anymore and I don't want to meet this mystery person for the first time with my baby.

AIBU??

Should I call back for clarity? What do I say? I have thought about many reasons for his behaviour...shame (maybe he's gay?), jealously, guilt...

Yes he's secretive but that's his business
He'll let you know in due course clearly.
Mum moved on, let him?

museumum · 14/11/2025 17:57

I think you just have to let him open up in his own time. Maybe the partner is a man or older or very much younger. Maybe they are also an alcoholic, or maybe they don’t really appreciate how much his life has been controlled by alcohol…. Or maybe as a single parent with personal issues he just can’t have a mature adult conversation about feelings.
You obviously love him, this is a step closer to meeting the person or hearing about them so why not just take whether he offers?

User5306921 · 14/11/2025 17:59

I don't know why he is being secretive about it, but the willingness to travel, to spend money on his house, travel, meet someone do all sound positive.

Yet after doing all the above, he is saying it will be a quick one hour visit.

I think the entire plan has been driven by your father's girlfriend and she may understand when you have a small baby, that one hour is enough. Or she has told him that he needs to meet his grandchild and has organised the entire trip. If that is the case, she sounds like a very positive influence on him.

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