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To be angry at my Dad for not sharing his relationship?

173 replies

Halie · 14/11/2025 14:03

For context, my parents have been divorced 20+ years. Mum remarried, Dad dated briefly but stayed alone for 19 years and never let go of his negativity towards Mum. His house was like a time capsule and looked exactly as it was when he divorced. Dad drinks a lot and has an alcohol dependency (since before his divorce). We were raised by my Dad. Very sad childhood. Completely dysfunctional at home. Too much to go into here.

He had his faults (many!!) but he never saw us go without - whether that be a winter coat, pair of shoes, a home cooked meal, he supported our education and would always help in whatever way he could. We were relatively close, or so I thought. Since I've lived away (10 years) we've always had a weekly phone call of at least an hour, and I would go to see him every other month (I live 200 miles away and drive, he doesn't have a licence) and would stay for the weekend with my husband.

About a year ago I became pregnant and was ill throughout so I could not visit him. We kept up with calls (some weeks he calls, some weeks I do) but I noticed the calls were rushed (5-15 mins) whereas in the past it was difficult to end the call and often it had been 2 hours (he was drunk most calls). Eventually he told me he'd met someone when I suggested he comes to visit as he had plans with them that weekend. He told me it was private and he doesn't want to talk about it as it was early days. He came to visit once in the 9 months I was pregant. I did try to gently broach the topic of his relationship. He shut it down except for confirming it was still ongoing.

I gave birth 9 weeks ago. He hasn't been to visit his grandchild (who I named after him). He has been travelling to Europe and across the UK for holidays throughout the year (out of character). He is still with the mystery person a year on and he alludes to them but won't talk about them (e.g. if I ask his plans for the weekend "oh we're going to have lunch out". He never went abroad or bought anything for himself since I was born - suddenly he's on holidays all the time AND has renovated his house. This is a man who bought a halogen cooker rather than get his broken oven fixed (for 20 yrs) and left his broken toilet and sink in the bathroom for years as he had a downstairs loo (and sooo much more stuff!).

He called me the day I was discharged from hospital after birth (I had to stay a week as myself and child were unwell) to ask what belongings of my mine from my childhood home he could take to the tip (in his partners car) as he was having more renovations. I found it incredibly insensitive.

He called today to ask if he could visit tonight (random - very short notice) or tomorrow morning. I said yes, no problem but perhaps the morning after the storm has passed as the trains will likely be affected and it gives me chance to sort a room. He told me "I won't be getting the train, we're coming up in the car and staying at a local cottage".

I didn't really know what to say so I said that's fine.

So now I'm sat wondering if and why some random person is going to meet my baby and why he is keeping this part of his life so secretive. I feel I don't know him anymore and I don't want to meet this mystery person for the first time with my baby.

AIBU??

Should I call back for clarity? What do I say? I have thought about many reasons for his behaviour...shame (maybe he's gay?), jealously, guilt...

OP posts:
ilucgaiaw · 14/11/2025 15:58

I also wonder if the DP is same sex? Or significantly younger? Or a different ethnicity (not accusing you of racism but he might have some unconscious bias around his own choice?) or possibly there’s a class or education factor?

Could be any of these. I have a friend who met a woman while working in the US and married her. He was really cagey about the whole thing, wouldn't tell any of us anything about her, wouldn't show us photos. Eventually we got to meet her. She's black. I think that's what the issue was - that's his problem though, none of us are racist.

Or it could just be that OP's dad has been single for 19 years and he's taking things slowly and he wanted to be sure that this was going to be a lasting relationship before introducing the person to you.

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:04

Leagueofus · 14/11/2025 14:07

He raised you as a single parent on very limited money by the sounds of it

He now does not have any dependents, so more money, is in a relationship and is travelling.

be happy for him!!

I am, 100%. We always encouraged him to get out more, find a group/hobby/travel etc but he was too depressed, always working, had no money. So I'm so glad he is finally experiencing happiness as life is way too short. But I don't understand why he has kept this part of his life so secretive and why he is acting differently towards his children and not including us in his new life.

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Liondoesntsleepatnight · 14/11/2025 16:08

Welcome them, be happy for him. He is new to this new situation, as are you.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 14/11/2025 16:09

He sounds like a parent that was struggling while bringing up young DC, as many many parents do.

He also sounds like a good person who cared deeply and done their very best for you.

He may have booked a cottage so that his DP has somewhere to stay while he visits you, there may be things you two would like to discuss on your own. Then hopefully his DP could join you for a meal/drink.

I'd just go with the flow and give him the time he gave to you when you were younger, I'm sure he's over the moon at your little one being named after him.

ChiliFiend · 14/11/2025 16:30

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What a mean comment - he's her father and she loves him.

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 14/11/2025 16:38

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 14:35

People who struggle with relationships and life skills also struggle to "mix" relationships.

He's edging towards introductions. He's obviously not confident about this stuff. I would try to give him space and not take it all personally. He just sounds like someone who finds life a struggle and wants to stay connected with you.

His partner (by the law of averages) is probably at least a bit better at this stuff than him, so he may be leaning on them and they may be organising him a bit. I wouldn't try to dissect their relationship.

It's natural that you would feel a bit unhappy about all this. It would be lovely if he morphed into a fully functional human being at a time when you want to share the happiness of your new child. But that is unlikely, and solitude is a killer (moreso for men). So I'd be glad for him and I'd go with the flow unless there is anything really dysfunctional in the new relationship/ partner. I hope you and your family will be very happy with the new baby.

This is a great response

RecordBreakers · 14/11/2025 16:42

You are / have been unhappy when he didn't want to introduce you to his new partner.

Now he is more confident in the relationship and does want to introduce you, you are also unhappy

Confused

What would make you happy ?

OriginalSkang · 14/11/2025 16:46

Maybe its a man?

I would call back and just ask for clarity if their partner is coming to meet the baby or just staying in the cottage. I don't think that's a weird thing to ask given they wanted to keep the whole thing private

DaisyChain505 · 14/11/2025 16:48

I would take a random stab in the dark that maybe he’s with a man now and doesn’t know how to tell you.

Do you know his partners name?

Have you seen photos etc.

loganrock · 14/11/2025 16:52

I wouldn’t overthink it OP. Just go with the flow for now.

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:57

RecordBreakers · 14/11/2025 16:42

You are / have been unhappy when he didn't want to introduce you to his new partner.

Now he is more confident in the relationship and does want to introduce you, you are also unhappy

Confused

What would make you happy ?

But he hasn't mentioned introducing them at all? That's my point.

What would make me happy? Sensible, grown up, consistent and transparent communication without alcohol included and an end to the dysfunctional patterns I have witnessed and lived amongst my entire life. I can guarantee 100% he'll suggest a pub to meet.

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BauhausOfEliott · 14/11/2025 16:59

Leagueofus · 14/11/2025 14:10

And who gave the op a very dysfunctional and unhappy childhood

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At least he did actually raise her, though, which is more than her mother did.

AgnesX · 14/11/2025 17:01

So he's been very reticent for a year? Don't you read all the threads here about not introducing your new partner to your child too quickly 😀 Seriously though maybe he just didn't know how it was going to go or how to broach it with you.

Fingers crossed the meeting goes well. I'm assuming the new partner will be visiting because what would be the point of him telling you otherwise. Please come back and let us know the outcome.

QforCucumber · 14/11/2025 17:01

Sensible, grown up, consistent and transparent communication without alcohol included and an end to the dysfunctional patterns I have witnessed and lived amongst my entire life

so you want a different person? Becuase that’s literally the person he is. I don’t have a relationship with my dm because of who she is, but it took until my mid 30s to actually mourn the mum I wish she was and accept her as the person she is rather than just everyday wishing she would change

BauhausOfEliott · 14/11/2025 17:02

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:04

I am, 100%. We always encouraged him to get out more, find a group/hobby/travel etc but he was too depressed, always working, had no money. So I'm so glad he is finally experiencing happiness as life is way too short. But I don't understand why he has kept this part of his life so secretive and why he is acting differently towards his children and not including us in his new life.

I think it's obvious that your dad is quite a troubled man who has had significant mental health issues throughout his life.

He's probably finding it really hard to navigate the whole situation in his own head and is worried about introducing you to someone in case it all goes tits-up.

SpoonBaloon · 14/11/2025 17:02

There is a man in my family who has never married and had never had a serious relationship. There’s nothing wrong with him - he has a fairly good career, his own home, is sociable, drives, doesn’t have a drink problem etc. But he had never met anyone.

A few years ago he was seen out with a woman. There’s nothing “wrong” with her either. She’s his age, has a good job and her own home, no previous marriages, no kids, is from the area etc.

But it turns out he had been seeing her for around two years and no one had any idea. He had kept her a secret because he knew the rest of his family would react to his new relationship in an excruciating manner. And they largely did. Sometimes the reaction from our closest loved ones can be too much.

A man or woman meeting someone isn’t a big deal. But you’ve made it into a big deal because you’re posting about it on Mumsnet.

Your father is allowed to have a private life.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 17:03

Halie · 14/11/2025 16:57

But he hasn't mentioned introducing them at all? That's my point.

What would make me happy? Sensible, grown up, consistent and transparent communication without alcohol included and an end to the dysfunctional patterns I have witnessed and lived amongst my entire life. I can guarantee 100% he'll suggest a pub to meet.

Fair enough. I think you might need to take the initiative to get the ball rolling though. So, can you suggest a place to meet - cafe? And invite just him or "the two of you" as you'd prefer? Yes, he's being vague, but I suppose it leaves you room to ask for what you want to happen.

PashaMinaMio · 14/11/2025 17:06

TheFallenMadonna · 14/11/2025 14:27

There might be way more background, but it sounds like the partner is good for him?

This ^
Go with the flow, accept what or who comes along and hope for the best.

We only have one life. Be happy for him.

PashaMinaMio · 14/11/2025 17:06

TheFallenMadonna · 14/11/2025 14:27

There might be way more background, but it sounds like the partner is good for him?

This ^
Go with the flow, accept what or who comes along and hope for the best.

We only have one life. Be happy for him.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 17:09

It could well be a situation where he's saying to partner, Halie would have invited me to see the child if she wanted me, and partner is saying of course she wants you, they named the child after you, so they've agreed on the cottage as a considerate compromise - near enough to visit if that's okay with you.

I know a lot of people who tie themselves in knots over this kind of situation. But taking a cottage locally is at least not imposing on you, and why would he come at all if he didn't care.

abracadabra1980 · 14/11/2025 17:12

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She clearly loves him, that’s why. The name has nothing to do with her overall dilemma and reason for the post.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/11/2025 17:15

PashaMinaMio · 14/11/2025 17:06

This ^
Go with the flow, accept what or who comes along and hope for the best.

We only have one life. Be happy for him.

@Halie

I second this too if his new partner? GF? companion? is a good and kind person who cares about/loves him.

I'll admit, the secrecy about this for such a long period of time would make me a little concerned too. But I'd keep my concerns to myself and wait and see what she/he is like.

"...why some random person is going to meet my baby"

Really? IMHO, that's a bit precious. Is meeting your baby so 'special' that you can't welcome this person (whom your father knows and trusts) into your home?

Cheese55 · 14/11/2025 17:17

He's probably not used to the etiquette of having a relationship and how to introduce because he's been single for so long. I would be relaxed around new partner when u meet as if no big deal and then he might mention them more in conversation

Sartre · 14/11/2025 17:18

I think he’s always been dysfunctional and this is yet another sign of that. A regular person would still make time for his daughter and new grandchild, irrespective of new partner. The fact he’s barely contacted you since he met her, and the fact he didn’t even reach out to congratulate you or send well wishes when you gave birth really says an awful lot.

Go in with an open mind when you meet up with him and his new partner but I do think the whole thing is dysfunctional.

RawBloomers · 14/11/2025 17:19

There are all sorts of reasons to feel hurt OP, but I think you need to ask yourself what sort of relationship you want with your father going forward. What sort of relationship you want your DC to have with him.

There are many reasons why he might have been so secretive, they are almost all tied up with his own feelings of inadequacy. They likely don’t reflect on you at all, though they do show a bit of a lack of consideration for you (which is, I think, a mirror of him being drunk most of the time he called you).

If you want a close relationship going forward, being open and welcoming when he starts to reveal this aspect of his life is the way to go. Put your hurt on hold for a while. Lean on your husband and friends. In the future at some point, when he is more secure in the new him and has maybe forgotten what he was like to start, you can tell him how much it hurt you if you still feel the need.