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To be angry at my Dad for not sharing his relationship?

173 replies

Halie · 14/11/2025 14:03

For context, my parents have been divorced 20+ years. Mum remarried, Dad dated briefly but stayed alone for 19 years and never let go of his negativity towards Mum. His house was like a time capsule and looked exactly as it was when he divorced. Dad drinks a lot and has an alcohol dependency (since before his divorce). We were raised by my Dad. Very sad childhood. Completely dysfunctional at home. Too much to go into here.

He had his faults (many!!) but he never saw us go without - whether that be a winter coat, pair of shoes, a home cooked meal, he supported our education and would always help in whatever way he could. We were relatively close, or so I thought. Since I've lived away (10 years) we've always had a weekly phone call of at least an hour, and I would go to see him every other month (I live 200 miles away and drive, he doesn't have a licence) and would stay for the weekend with my husband.

About a year ago I became pregnant and was ill throughout so I could not visit him. We kept up with calls (some weeks he calls, some weeks I do) but I noticed the calls were rushed (5-15 mins) whereas in the past it was difficult to end the call and often it had been 2 hours (he was drunk most calls). Eventually he told me he'd met someone when I suggested he comes to visit as he had plans with them that weekend. He told me it was private and he doesn't want to talk about it as it was early days. He came to visit once in the 9 months I was pregant. I did try to gently broach the topic of his relationship. He shut it down except for confirming it was still ongoing.

I gave birth 9 weeks ago. He hasn't been to visit his grandchild (who I named after him). He has been travelling to Europe and across the UK for holidays throughout the year (out of character). He is still with the mystery person a year on and he alludes to them but won't talk about them (e.g. if I ask his plans for the weekend "oh we're going to have lunch out". He never went abroad or bought anything for himself since I was born - suddenly he's on holidays all the time AND has renovated his house. This is a man who bought a halogen cooker rather than get his broken oven fixed (for 20 yrs) and left his broken toilet and sink in the bathroom for years as he had a downstairs loo (and sooo much more stuff!).

He called me the day I was discharged from hospital after birth (I had to stay a week as myself and child were unwell) to ask what belongings of my mine from my childhood home he could take to the tip (in his partners car) as he was having more renovations. I found it incredibly insensitive.

He called today to ask if he could visit tonight (random - very short notice) or tomorrow morning. I said yes, no problem but perhaps the morning after the storm has passed as the trains will likely be affected and it gives me chance to sort a room. He told me "I won't be getting the train, we're coming up in the car and staying at a local cottage".

I didn't really know what to say so I said that's fine.

So now I'm sat wondering if and why some random person is going to meet my baby and why he is keeping this part of his life so secretive. I feel I don't know him anymore and I don't want to meet this mystery person for the first time with my baby.

AIBU??

Should I call back for clarity? What do I say? I have thought about many reasons for his behaviour...shame (maybe he's gay?), jealously, guilt...

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Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 14:52

I wouldn't make a big deal in advance of whether it's man or a woman - even if you only mean to say it's not a big deal! If you bring it up at all in advance, just say you're glad he's found someone who made him happy.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 14:55

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It's not the sum of a man's worth.

Unfortunately, many alcoholics believe that they are better company, better people, when they're not sober.

OP is obviously aware that this man cares for her and did a great deal for her. There's value in that, and most people are very far from perfect.

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:58

RubySquid · 14/11/2025 14:50

Wtf? How would a BABY know or care about hus grandfather's partner?.

Id be more concerned in case the grandfather was drunk tbh

I don't really understand why I'm getting piled on (not just by you yours is just the latest quote). OP has said that she does not want to meet them for the first time with the baby there, which as one of the child's parents is her right. The baby won't give a hoot about who's who, never suggested the baby would care but OP does and thats why I'm trying to support OP.

Leagueofus · 14/11/2025 14:59

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:58

I don't really understand why I'm getting piled on (not just by you yours is just the latest quote). OP has said that she does not want to meet them for the first time with the baby there, which as one of the child's parents is her right. The baby won't give a hoot about who's who, never suggested the baby would care but OP does and thats why I'm trying to support OP.

I think your suggestion was perfect @CinnamonBuns67

meganorks · 14/11/2025 15:08

I can see you being a bit put out at the short notice. But other than that, I'm not really sure what you are unhappy about. Is it because you are feeling a bit tired/not your best and so don't want to meet someone new? Particularly if hosting. If it's about someone you don't know coming to your house, maybe ask if you (and DH, baby) come to the cottage they are staying in? Or maybe just your dad comes to the house for a brief visit but you meet them both somewhere over the course of the weekend.
But you start off complaining that your dad hasn't shared anything about his partner, let you meet them or met your baby. And now he is trying to resolve all those things, you aren't happy with that.
They seem to be a positive influence on him, so I would try and embrace it.

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 15:10

Leagueofus · 14/11/2025 14:59

I think your suggestion was perfect @CinnamonBuns67

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I appreciate that, it isn't perfect it is just what I would do if that was my situation and my thoughts and feelings. OP will know how best to navigate it based on how she and her Dad are as people.

PInkyStarfish · 14/11/2025 15:12

New partner is a bloke, a younger bloke.

TallulahBetty · 14/11/2025 15:13

He sounds vile. Cut contact, and change the kid's name

SoScarletItWas · 14/11/2025 15:15

I’d go ahead with the visit. He’s not imposing by assuming they can stay at yours or overstay their welcome, he’s booked the cottage.

I don’t think you can complain about him being secretive about the new relationship and then refuse to meet the partner.

Your dad probably wants to see YOU as much as the baby.

Baby may well be sleeping for most of the visit.

Agree with PP that the relationship sounds good for him.

beAsensible1 · 14/11/2025 15:15

You’ve wanted to meet them and he’s bringing them. So meet them.

clearly he’s wanted to be sure before introducing them to you and felt nervous or protective or who knows.

go With an open mind and be civil. That’s all you need to do. Don’t overthink it.

Oftenaddled · 14/11/2025 15:16

I think people assuming the partner is male and that's the issue may be underestimating how difficult some people find it to negotiate any relationships, changes and life challenges. Maybe he's male, but it's fairly obvious we are describing someone with mental health issues and general life struggles. That's not (unfortunately) all that unusual.

SoScarletItWas · 14/11/2025 15:17

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:58

I don't really understand why I'm getting piled on (not just by you yours is just the latest quote). OP has said that she does not want to meet them for the first time with the baby there, which as one of the child's parents is her right. The baby won't give a hoot about who's who, never suggested the baby would care but OP does and thats why I'm trying to support OP.

Yes, we are risking conflating two things here. Is the issue that OP doesn’t want a random person meeting baby? Or is it that she wants to see her dad alone after so much time?

WellYouWereMythTaken · 14/11/2025 15:19

I’m genuinely sorry you had the childhood you had. My mum was an alcoholic too who was bitter towards my dad for leaving her and it’s exhausting.

However, it sounds like he’s improving- sorting his life out and enjoying it more which is great. This person must be a good influence on him. But I get the sense you’re upset or hurt that he couldn’t do that for you. This person gets the fun, sorted, life together man you’re father now currently is, and he didn’t do that with or for you. It’s also not great he’s not visited you and his new grandchild yet.

beAsensible1 · 14/11/2025 15:21

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:18

I'd give him a ring back for clarity to see if his partner is coming too or not and if he says yes say "That makes me feel really uncomfortable, I'd prefer to meet them myself first before introducing them to baby. Please come on you own for the visit on (date)but I would love to set a date to meet up for coffee/lunch/dinner to meet your partner" if he says no say "Okay when do you suppose I will get the opportunity to meet them as you've been with them a while. Can we do coffee/lunch/dinner on (a date you will be available) as I'd like to meet them without baby first?"

This unecessarily combative. He doesn’t drive is getting a lift and staying in a cottage.

pestering him to meet the person and then objecting because the baby will be around is overly precious. They don’t need to meet the baby it will be in the pram or asleep or you can get DH to take the baby out.

its creating friction because she feels a bit jealous and off kilter. Why sour things when he’s made the step you’ve asked for.

there’s no need when she doesn’t have any actual objections, she feels funny because she’s a bit jealous and it’s out of the blue. Why feed into it.

its up to OP wether the baby is there or not. She doesn’t need to make it a “thing” just arrange for baby to be busy

aCatCalledFawkes · 14/11/2025 15:26

Obviously a lot of water has passed under the bridge since your childhood. I might be wrong but it's almost like he is doing these things for the partner (sorting his life out) that he should of done for you when you needed him too.

I'm a very private person when it comes to relationships so I can see why he might not want to talk about him.

I think I would go with him and the new partner visiting, you might surprised as it sounds like they have been positive in his life. You know its because your Dad has told them all about you and they want to come to meet you. I think that's pretty normal even if there seems to be some breakdown in communication.

Parsleyforme · 14/11/2025 15:27

Bits of this story are similar to my dad’s relationship. Never did anything in the house until his girlfriend came along, then started going on holidays etc. But he never hid her, and I think it’s strange that your phone conversations are short and your dad won’t come to see you. My dad’s girlfriend was nice on the whole, but it takes a certain type of person to see an alcoholic with a bit of a run down house and want to be with them. In my case, the girlfriend was a high functioning and wealthy alcoholic herself and all the holidays were pretty enabling of their drinking. I hope he’s finally bringing the girlfriend to see you so you can find out more about her. I’d mention that you were sad he didn’t visit when you were pregnant and that he wants to get rid of your stuff and see what he/they say

Edit: or boyfriend

SALaw · 14/11/2025 15:28

It sounds like this person has given him the boot up the backside he needs and he’s doing loads of things he should have done for years. Embrace it. You have a child now to focus on and so this alleviates concerns you had about his health etc.

Sweetleftfood · 14/11/2025 15:31

TallulahBetty · 14/11/2025 15:13

He sounds vile. Cut contact, and change the kid's name

You sound vile tbh

Cucy · 14/11/2025 15:32

I would be really annoyed that he’s coming to visit at such short notice with someone you’ve never met, especially without asking if it’s ok.

But the rest you’re being a little bit U.

Its normal for people to keep relationships to themselves, especially when it’s early days.

He probably also doesn’t know how to bring the two worlds together very easily.

It sounds like he’s got his drinking under control and is spending the money on decent things so for that I’d be incredibly happy about.

It sounds like he could have made more effort whilst you were pregnant/after you gave birth but sometimes it’s difficult to know when is appropriate to visit a new mother and you don’t want to feel like you’re intruding.

He is by no means perfect but it’s ok for him to have his own life too.

Cucy · 14/11/2025 15:34

CinnamonBuns67 · 14/11/2025 14:18

I'd give him a ring back for clarity to see if his partner is coming too or not and if he says yes say "That makes me feel really uncomfortable, I'd prefer to meet them myself first before introducing them to baby. Please come on you own for the visit on (date)but I would love to set a date to meet up for coffee/lunch/dinner to meet your partner" if he says no say "Okay when do you suppose I will get the opportunity to meet them as you've been with them a while. Can we do coffee/lunch/dinner on (a date you will be available) as I'd like to meet them without baby first?"

I completely agree and think this is a great idea.

tragichero · 14/11/2025 15:35

Congratulations on the birth of your child. It seems you have been dying to meet your dad's partner, so if I were you I would be delighted and really looking forward to this meeting. Celebrating the birth of a new family member sounds to me like the perfect time to introduce this person who is clearly important to him, and good for him, to his beloved daughter.

If you put him off doing this, what will you achieve? You will put him off ever introducing you I imagine.

I understand a bit why it frustrated you you didn't meet them before - but not why you are upset it is happening now.

Swiftie1878 · 14/11/2025 15:36

You can either turn this into a drama, or just roll with it and see how it goes.
Up to you.

PullTheBricksDown · 14/11/2025 15:36

Don't ring, just let them come. Listen and ask questions. You can always put baby down 'for a nap if you want to check out the lie of the land first. Agree with pp that you've felt sad not to see him and now he wants to come, that's not right either.

GFBurger · 14/11/2025 15:53

It’s strange when your parents move on and their lives aren’t prioritised around you anymore. It’s also even stranger when they build new romantic lives - but it sounds like he is having a lovely time. It might be that he has slowed down the drinking too.

I am sure the partner is lovely and making him happy and motivated. You can only look at it positively. Sounds wonderful. Enjoy meeting the new partner just as you would if a friend got a new partner.

And the taking things to the tip does sting! My childhood items turned up in black plastic bags, delivered with glee by my Dad’s wife. 😆 But he did ask you if you wanted them and he is trying to clear up his own home. In a few years time you’ll be subtly throwing salt dough ornaments and your child’s artwork in the bin without even asking them! You feel terribly guilty but you can’t hold on to every little thing they have touched forever. It doesn’t mean you love them any less.

He sounds like he adores you and will adore your new little one even more. Congratulations!

Halie · 14/11/2025 15:58

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I totally get why you'd think that given the only context is my post...but my Dad raised us as a single parent on hardly any money with no support and he had to remortgage to keep a roof over our heads. Theres a lot more to it. Essentially, his coping mechanism was and as an adult now I have a lot of empathy for him that I lacked as a child. It was no means ideal but without him I would have been in care.

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