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To not invite DM for Xmas knowing she's alone with MH illness

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SimplyPie · 13/11/2025 14:31

I don't know what to do.
DM is 76.
Lives alone.
Zero friends - can't maintain healthy relationships due to lack of boundaries or understanding about how her behaviour impacts on others.
Lifelong mental illness which is untreated as she won't engage with mental health services or her GP. The reason for her refusing to engage is due to the mental illness itself.
Mixture of unstable PD, lifelong depression, clinical anxiety, PTSD, self harm, self neglect, emotional dysregulation, ASD and ADHD.
Refuses medication and refuses therapy - lifelong refusal.
Her MI caused a caused a difficult childhood for DB and me and I carry this with me through my adulthood.
She raised us as a single parent.
DB is now NC with DM for his own MH protection and he aportions a lot of blame on her for his own depression and anxiety.
All of our extended family are NC with DM due to the emotional difficulties and challenges she presents in trying to maintain a long standing relationship.
Christmas is a huge MH trigger for her.
We have her to stay for a few days over Christmas and it is very hard work.
She is an emotional rollercoaster between being irritable, snapping at me and DH, talking in a stream of consciousness about her ongoing difficulties, devastation about not seeing DB and his children at Christmas anymore, crying, desperately wanting to spend every waking minute with my DC over Christmas on an emotional level whilst at the same time showing a complete lack of engagement with them on a demonstratable level, being non stop highly stressed, anxious, zero ability to sit through a kids Christmas movie with them or play a game with them, too distracted to get through a conversation with - she can't keep track of anything I try to talk to her about, and physically as unhelpful towards the general busyness of Christmas as it's possible to be. Sits there for entire days not moving. Doesn't occur to her to pitch in and help.
It's just bloody hard work and I feel like crying at the thought of another Christmas like it.
When the DC were little they'd bounce around excitedly not noticing all this. But they're getting older now and are beginning to pick up on things.
The thing is DM isn't mentally unwell but lovely with it. She isn't vulnerable in the sense that she leaves you feeling like you want to look after her. She's verbally argumentative all the time. She's hostile. She never smiles. She's paranoid in a negative way. She's accusatory. She can start an attack of arguing out of nowhere. Her conversation just goes round and round in a negative spiral. Every word she utters is negative. Endless moaning. I can have a completely neutral expression on my face and she'll argue at me for looking at her in an angry way.
I must add that we really are nice to her. Buy all her favourite food. Adapt food and cooking to her liking. Abandon family activities that DH and DC and me enjoy because she doesn't want to do them. Tip toe around her endlessly changing mood. Buy her really thoughtful and lovely gifts. Turn down social offers we'd personally love to accept because she stays for days. Pick her up. Drive her home. We appease her on every level.
And then after it's all over, she'll spend days texting me about how she knows me and DH hate her but she only comes to stay so tbat she can see my DC who she regularly tells me are her only reason for living.
The older I'm getting the more she is impacting on my wellbeing. I'm pretty strong and I think I've been pretty emotionally resilient through my life, considering I've been raised by a mother who's been like tgis my whole life. But strangely, I feel more affected by her behaviour in my middle age now than I did in my 20s and 30s, even though it has now been much longer since I lived with her (I left home at 18 which I spent 2 decades being either cried at or argued at about, with her blaming me for abandonment). I don't quite understand why it's all affecting me more now at this age.
So......I can hear you all thinking dont invite her over then. But the alternative is she sits at home alone with the TV and a microwave meal, and despite how impossible she is to get along with, I know about her life traumas and I understand those traumas are the reason for her illness, and knowing that makes me feel like I'd spend the entire Christmas feeling such guilt that I wouldn't enjoy it anyway.
I have tried all my life to support and love her.
But I can feel my brain is beginning to change now, after the effects of all these years of dealing with this.
And I just want to say - I hate serious mental illness. I really truly hate it and all it's harmful, toxic, devastating repercussions.
I hate it. I feel defeated by it.😞

OP posts:
DisappearingGirl · 28/11/2025 10:01

Oh my goodness this is terrible OP.

Two things can be true at the same time.

Your mum had a really hard childhood, and possibly genetic reasons for poor MH as well, and this has led to her being a messed up person, which is very sad.

At the same time, your mum has always treated you horribly and still does. This is not acceptable and you shouldn't have to put up with it. Nor can you fix her if she can't see how bad her own behaviour is.

Ultimately we all have a responsibility to deal with the traumas of our past and not use them as a reason to be horrible to other people, especially our own children.

ChikinLikin · 28/11/2025 10:03

Wishing you every strength with going no contact with your M. It is long overdue. Take care of yourself now ... you have been wounded. Have therapy, accept help, take comfort from your family.

MairOldAlibi · 28/11/2025 10:13

scottishGirl · 26/11/2025 08:07

If you stop seeing her I wonder if she will be more likely to engage with professional support?
Even if it means she has to have a crisis of some sorts for that to happen sadly.
She is mentally ill and this is not your responsibility to manage alone .if she won't accept professional help that's on her.. please protect yourself and stop contact.

You could notify her GP and the local community mental health team when you cut her off. At worst, this should ensure that, if she does reach out for help, they avoid “this is a social problem, sort it out with your daughter, not us” suggestions.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/11/2025 10:22

LiaLemons · 28/11/2025 09:27

That's a bit harsh. The op's dm clearly has significant mental health and behavioural issues. People like this are obviously not easy to deal with but what the op has to do is damage limitation, take control. They have her for a few days at Christmas, why? She lives locally enough she turns up unannounced.
The op should invite her for Christmas lunch keep the conversation on track then say they are off to the inlaws.

Control and boundaries are not easy after a lifetime of emotional manipulation but if the op can implement some strategies it will be the way forward

OP's DM may have significant mental health and behavioural issues, but she manages to control them when she is around OP's kids, but spews her venom and her barrage of hatred onto OP mercilessly.

OP deserves to be able to decide that enough is enough without some sanctimonious posters still trying to guilt her into spending some time with her mum on Christmas Day.

LiaLemons · 28/11/2025 11:24

thepariscrimefiles · 28/11/2025 10:22

OP's DM may have significant mental health and behavioural issues, but she manages to control them when she is around OP's kids, but spews her venom and her barrage of hatred onto OP mercilessly.

OP deserves to be able to decide that enough is enough without some sanctimonious posters still trying to guilt her into spending some time with her mum on Christmas Day.

Many people with significant mh issues are manipulative and mask. This isn't a new thing.

It is a complex situation, op doesn't sound ready to be NC she states clearly why.

We can't change people like this and the op has said she'll feel guilty if she cuts her off so the situation needs managing. Short visits, not 'having her to stay days'.

KindCompassion · 03/12/2025 21:07

I just want to repeat - you MUST call the police for a welfare check. Here’s why:

  1. if she genuinely is suicidal you could be saving her life. If you do nothing and she kills herself you will feel absolutely terrible. This happened to me.
  2. If she is faking it for attention (most likely scenario) this will scare and embarrass her into never playing this awful manipulative game with her again.

best of luck in your journey. I hope you get the strength to cut this cancer from your life completely.

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