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I hate how DS2 speaks about his wife

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ArtyGmam · 12/11/2025 05:16

I have 2 grown sons, DS1 is 33 and DS2 is 31. Both are married, DS1 has a 2 year old and a newborn, DS1 has a 17 month old. We don’t live locally to them but make a real attempt to see them as often as we can and they both call often.
I have always felt that DS1 is just the kindest, most genuine man on earth, even as a teenager he was a very kind boy, never had any issues with bullying or misbehaviour, just a genuine delight to raise. DS2 was definitely my more challenging child but ultimately he is also lovely and kind and successful and that’s all that matters.
However I have always noticed slight differences in the way my boys treat their partners, DS1 has always been so respectful of the people he has dated or his now wife, even when times are tough and he’s struggling, he would never insult them, makes a real effort to see things from their perspective and to understand. Ever since he met his wife he has acted like he is the luckiest man on earth and it works as she behaves like the luckiest woman on earth, every time I speak to DS1 he just raves about how amazing his daughters and wife are.

DS2 on the other hand has had a fair share of toxic relationships, I’ve had to remind him at times to check the language he is using when talking about women and I’ve had to remind him that you can disagree with someone, be upset at them and even break up with them without having to insult them, especially insults which are opinion based and unrelated to the issue at hand. Lately on calls he keeps saying how frustrated he is with his wife, things like “K didn’t cook today because she was too tired, so bloody lazy” when just 10 minutes before he was telling me how their child didn’t sleep the night before and his wife was already under the weather with a cold. When I try to remind him that he is also able to cook etc. he just goes on about how she is a SAHM so all the house responsibilities are hers. DS1 would never do this, his wife is also a SAHM, but he consistently makes a point of complimenting how appreciative he is of everything she does at home.

It’s really starting to upset me how DS2 speaks, especially when words like lazy, boring, grumpy, nagging etc. come up. Now I am aware I don’t live with them and maybe she just isn’t being totally fair but I maintain insulting your wife to your mother is never the correct approach and it reads to me that he just doesn’t respect her as much as he should, which would line up with how he treated his exes.

AIBU to hate this behaviour and should I call it out more or leave it as it’s not my marriage and I’m just his mum?

OP posts:
EstherGreenwood63 · 12/11/2025 18:01

Ignore the many goaders who have arrived to denigrate the OP. These fellas are obvious af. Sad sacks... 🤣

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 12/11/2025 18:17

AIBU to hate this behaviour and should I call it out more or leave it as it’s not my marriage and I’m just his mum?

It's not interfering to say, "Please don't talk about your wife like that to me. It's so disrespectful."

That's just you drawing a line re what you are prepared to listen to.

You don't have to say anything more (unless it seems like a useful conversation is possible). But repeat every time he does it.

99bottlesofkombucha · 12/11/2025 22:21

I think there’s scope for you to say mildly your dad would never have expected me to iron a shirt for him after being up all night with the baby, he’d have done an hour overnight to let me catch a break. It sometimes doesn’t feel like you’re very supportive when it’s your child too. No one should have to work 24 hours when they have a partner.

Wordsmithery · 12/11/2025 23:17

CaminoPlanner · 12/11/2025 09:30

You think it's a woman's fault a man is misogynistic? But that also the guilty woman should do nothing about it? Interesting Catch 22 you have stuck the OP in there.

Well I really meant that perhaps he's used to being put down and is repeating the behaviour - because OP couldn't come up with much that was nice about him. Being put down results in low self esteem which in turn can lead to bullying behaviour.

OhDear111 · 12/11/2025 23:35

@mbosnz My DDs know they aren’t the same! What I do is treat them equally. I cannot change their careers or many other things. Both have faults! Both have great attributes and they are valued human beings. However I cannot make their lives equal. However I’d be cross if their husbands (they haven’t got them yet) complained about them like this.

IhateHPSDeaneCnt · 13/11/2025 07:32

I can't believe how toxic the initial response from hoiking bosom poster led to more. You sound like a great Parent; you've done your best to teach your sons respect. I despair at some of the replies - only a couple away from agreeing that 'she was asking for it - all he asked for was a hot Dinner on the table - even though she'd been up with sick kid all night'. Hoiking Bosom brigade are obviously delighted when their precious male progeny start snivelling and complaining.

SixtySomething · 13/11/2025 07:36

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 12/11/2025 05:19

Lots of issues there, it seems quite clear that ds1 has always been a clear favourite of yours!
were you a sahm?

Ridiculous!

soupyspoon · 13/11/2025 07:42

Celestialmoods · 12/11/2025 06:36

How sad that your son can’t confide in his mother without being judged and compared to his brother.

Im wondering what would happen if a daughter confided in her mother that her husband was lazy, grumpy, nagging etc etc. She would be told to leave him, not shut up about it and if there was a thread on here posters would be replicating that language and cheering her on.

sittingonabeach · 13/11/2025 08:03

@soupyspoon I doubt nagging would be a term used as that is very much a misogynistic word. Also if I phoned my mum to say DH hadn’t ironed my top I think she would be telling me to iron it myself. The DIL is parenting a young child and sounds like doing all the nights. Again if DS phoned me to complain about DIL not having ironed his shirt or cooked his dinner after being up all night with little one I would be very unimpressed with him.

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