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to say the BBC might be imperfect but

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user427654 · 11/11/2025 12:17

A lot of people here don't appreciate the value in what they have, and it would be beyond foolish to let this institution be decimated.

When I say here, I don't mean on MN, but in general in the UK

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Shedmistress · 13/11/2025 17:35

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/11/2025 11:20

Sarcasm.
A handful of mistakes by a small number of personnel and decades of great public service tv are being forgotten.

The outrage about the Trump documentary is nuts. The editor was obviously an idiot. You don’t need to give that person any rope to hang himself, his deeds and words speak for themselves.

I hate that anyone is making Trump look like some sort of victim, but he WAS taken through an impeachment that tried to state he started an insurrection. And another whistleblower has come forward to say that apparently Newsnight also ran a spliced recording of that same speech, and were called out on it live at the time, and again, nothing was done. I'd say he has every right to sue them if he so wishes.

TodaRythm · 13/11/2025 17:47

You are right. Moreover, the recent events demonstrate that the BBC is capable of dealing with bad apples in an expedite manner. We can't expect for it to be perfect all the time but to have a system of checks and balances that ensure its impartiality is great. What they did with Trump's speech was wrong and I am pleased that they they got rid from someone at the top level and not just a midlevel scapegoat.

GeneralPeter · 13/11/2025 19:46

TodaRythm · 13/11/2025 17:47

You are right. Moreover, the recent events demonstrate that the BBC is capable of dealing with bad apples in an expedite manner. We can't expect for it to be perfect all the time but to have a system of checks and balances that ensure its impartiality is great. What they did with Trump's speech was wrong and I am pleased that they they got rid from someone at the top level and not just a midlevel scapegoat.

It’s hardly expedited! Panorama aired over a year ago, Newsnight three years.

The report was sent to the board only becuase the standards advisor felt the relevant committee had sat on it.

Then when it leaked the board said nothing for a week.

The DG and head of news then quit. I guess that’s good? But as far as we know noone gone at Panorama, Newsnight, BBC Verify, BBC Arabic, or the LBGTQ+ news team, who are actually implicated.

And, per the leaked staff call, who do the staff want to go? Robbie Gibb, ie the board member who (apparently) brought this to a head. Pushing out the whistleblower, effectively, the one board member who was demonstrably not group-thinking in response to a crisis caused by group-think.

TempestTost · 13/11/2025 21:47

Chersfrozenface · 12/11/2025 13:09

The problem isn't just how the BBC dealt with the memo and its contents when it came out, it's also how it dealt with all along.

The memo was sent in mid May. In June Michael Prescott left the BBC and later sent it to all board members along with a covering letter stating his “despair” at being ignored by senior news leaders.

The BBC had sat on the memo and were ignoring it until it was leaked to and published by the Telegraph.

Yes, this.

Had they taken appropriate steps, it would have bene one thing.

Instead they sat on it, tried to cover it up, and apparently thought that everything they had been doing was just fine.

They were totally unrepentant and had the Telegraph not broke the story, would be carrying on now with all the same crap.

TempestTost · 13/11/2025 21:51

sickandtir3d · 13/11/2025 09:53

YABVU.

I wouldn't believe anything the BBC says anymore, they are just a dangerous propaganda outfit now. Just because something has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it should be kept "for old times' sake". It's a complete failed and defunct institution and should be turned into a subscription-only entity and those that want to watch its output can pay for it rather than forcing everyone else to subsidise their bias.

This is just it.

Any story the BBC has now, we should all wonder, is this really true?

We should all wonder what stories they are not telling, and why.

The less we know personally about a topic, the less we should trust them, because we won't have the tools to tell when they are being manipulative.

They have really fucked themselves.

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/11/2025 13:22

ThatBlackCat · 12/11/2025 13:19

"mistakes" is doing a lot of heavy lifting, even for a minimisation technique.

I repost what I said on another thread:

"Lol mistakes? Mistake is mislaying your car keys, accidentally pouring orange juice instead of milk in your coffee, or an organisation's IT dept making a coding mistake and accidentally deleting their website.

The BBC made a deliberate decision, a deliberate intentional action to manipulate and edit speeches, and to not cover the most important medical scandal since Thalidomide or Agent Orange.

This BBC didn't make 'mistakes'. They made deliberate decisions. Stop trying to minimise what they did. These were no mistakes!"

No, some individuals within the BBC made bad decisions.

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/11/2025 13:24

TempestTost · 13/11/2025 21:51

This is just it.

Any story the BBC has now, we should all wonder, is this really true?

We should all wonder what stories they are not telling, and why.

The less we know personally about a topic, the less we should trust them, because we won't have the tools to tell when they are being manipulative.

They have really fucked themselves.

Will continue to believe the BBC over GB News and the DM!

SunnyViper · 14/11/2025 13:35

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/11/2025 13:24

Will continue to believe the BBC over GB News and the DM!

I take them all with a pinch of salt, even the BBC. I find Al Jezeera to be the most balanced overall.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 14/11/2025 13:38

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/11/2025 13:24

Will continue to believe the BBC over GB News and the DM!

There are way more options than just those these days - and it's surpsing how coverage on which subjects and how covered varies between news producers - it's honestly quite eye opening.

I don't think anyone's saying all the BBC news output is false but they've had a massive blow to their credblity and have been shockingly slow to address concerns which has further damaged them.

Certainly since covid they've stopped being main source of news for me and gone to one of several sources - which is probably much better TBH - but that happen because they lost some trust - which they've just done again - and at some point if they continue to damage trust they'll stop being a source of news at all for more and more people - making their already difficult position untenable.

Supporterofwomensrights · 14/11/2025 18:15

Mumsnet is much more trustworthy than the BBC on women's rights.

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