to say the BBC might be imperfect but

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A lot of people here don't appreciate the value in what they have, and it would be beyond foolish to let this institution be decimated.

When I say here, I don't mean on MN, but in general in the UK

Pretty sure that they’ve been right about many more stories.

I certainly hope they were! Bloody hell!!

A bit of a low bar for the BBC really, if we can't trust the veracity of the reporting....

I'm wondering, as pp have said, if it's just a bit bloated? Perhaps broken down and more effectively scrutinised?

This.

It's turned into clickbait.

I don't think they meant to, but having stipulations from government about how many people and which people they have to appeal to has caused more bias than anyone working there has.

An hour with Google yesterday showed me that the report that's bringing down the BBC was written by someone who is not as squeaky clean as is being presented either.

Can you say more about this ‘An hour with Google yesterday showed me that the report that's bringing down the BBC was written by someone who is not as squeaky clean as is being presented either’ for those of us too lazy I mean busy to do the same?

Reform right.
I am probably centre left and it's quite a bit to the right of me.

Where does it land? On the right?

As long as the BBC dont pass on the costs to the TV license payers which i doubt they'll get away with. They are making errors of judgement continuously. Maybe when their stars are having to have salary reductions as a result of paying out a few million pounds in lawsuits, they night start to tone down their arrogance. So you dont think they should face the consequences of what theyve done? It's fraud...

I think if people can’t see how Left the BBC are they just haven’t got a grip on reality and are so embedded with the leftist agenda they are mistakenly thinking they’re centre, because that’s all they’re surrounded by. it’s biased support of Gaza, it’s Stonewall advocacy..it’s diversity over reality programming it’s anti Trump rhetoric.

I see. Of course we would also need to know what the corrections were for. Are they general, or do they all err in the same direction...

It’s left wing except when it’s very right wing. Countless examples

I personally won't miss it, and it would have been unthinkable for me to say that 15 years ago, but there's nothing for me on the BBC now. I literally only watched two shows in the past 15 years, and they've both finished now. I listen to podcasts rather than the radio, and get my news elsewhere.

It's sad because I was an avid Radio 4 listener since I was about 11 and used to listen to it with my grandad, and I used to love BBC comedy and drama in my teens/early 20s, but it just seems like their content isn't being produced for me anymore. It's not exactly just a BBC problem though. I find very little to watch on any platform, terrestrial or streaming!

I think, rather than being left or right wing, per se, it decides what it thinks the "correct" opinion about any given issue is, and then doesn't provide enough balance to counter that.

You forgot the punch line.......😂

I think that's a really good point.

Everyone self evidently believes that the opinions they hold are the correct ones (if they didn’t, they wouldn’t hold them!).

When people hear their own opinions played back to them, whether that’s from a friend, a newspaper article or someone on TV it barely registers - it is the gentle background hum of hearing you are “right”. Conversely, when you hear an opinion you disagree with it jars, it stops you in your tracks, you may feel irritated, maybe confronted, maybe angry.

I think that is why people from all sides often complain that the BBC is biased against them - they can easily ignore the comforting noise of agreement and only really focus on the moments that jarred, that made them feel angry.

They have shown themselves to not be impartial. They are a dinosaur in terms of funding, news and other shows. They have had many recent issues with how they hand out contracts to 'stars'.

Its another nail in their coffin and i dont expect them to be around much longer. I fully understand that other news organisations are as susceptible to not being impartial but the BBC and how it was funded was established upon being impartial. That is now gone.

Yes, but the BBC needs to show both sides fairly whether they agree with them or not, which I think they don’t always do, not in a fair and balanced way anyway.

This, absolutely

Very true.

My point is that I dont think they are ashit show in the sense of being shoddy which is what I think the post i responded to implied.

The issue isnt capability it's accuracy, integrity and deliberate bias imo.

Hard agree

That doesn’t always work though does it? During the Brexit referendum for example it was widely reported that 9 out of every 10 economists thought it was a bad idea. And yet it gave each side equal weighting. So always one for, one against. That’s quite skewed. Currently for a Party who so few seats, Reform is unfairly represented to the detriment of the Lib Dems and the Greens.

I don't expect them to be perfect.
I do expect to be able to trust what they are telling me and not have to wonder if it's been doctored or misrepresented.
I do expect them to own their wrong doing or "mistakes" as they would say and apologise to the people involved. Even if that person is at the opposite end of the political spectrum to them.
I do expect them to not reward their presenters who have been charged with a serious crime with a walloping bonus.

I said in a fair and balanced way. So, obviously, it wouldn't be balanced to give equal weight to both viewpoints, and the stats should be pointed out very clearly when discussing it, so everyone knows the facts. It's totally possible.

Reform being overrepresented is an example of the very problem I'm talking about. Their having so much more time than the Greens and Lib Dems is not fair or balanced.