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To feel sad that my Dd will not really know what it’s like to be British

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Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 10/11/2025 21:03

We live abroad, Dh and I both British, Dd is 6 and was born where we live. We have been ‘Back home’ a couple of times for short holidays, but mainly everyone comes to us.
Ive started to feel sad recently that she won’t experience a British childhood/upbringing, unless we move in the next few years-will it be too late then?
How important is it that we try to keep her informed of her heritage (if that’s the right word!)

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Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 11/11/2025 21:09

Hallywally · 11/11/2025 11:55

It seems weird to choose to live somewhere else but want your daughter to knows what it’s like to be “British”. If it’s that important to you, why did you move abroad?

Because we moved abroad before she came along and sometimes you feel different when children come along

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toomuchfaff · 11/11/2025 21:18

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 10/11/2025 21:30

Not valuable as such, just everything Dh and I had, that sort of childhood I suppose- silly things probably-conker fights, the ice cream man, rainy caravan holidays, Blackpool, English countryside, British primary schools, proper libraries, just the whole culture really..she’ll be different to us…hard to explain really

But all of is gone. Even if you were here that childhood is gone.

Not one of my cousins children are scouring nature searching for conkers, collecting conkers, treating them, having competitions with friends on who has the champ. That activity is confined to just memories now.

The world is a changed place, the childhood is hugely different to what you would have had just as our childhood was hugely different to that of our parents...

What you need to do is immerse your children in the traditions of the country you reside, make it magical by giving the memories of your own combined with the available ✨️

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 11/11/2025 21:18

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2025 18:49

Like PP I had a mixture of UK and Europe.

Living in Southern Europe <rolls eyes> as a child I experienced another language, which means I now speak 3, and can learn the basics of any language I want easily. I experienced travel and difference and compromise. I experienced being ‘foreign’ which makes you far more understanding and empathetic about others being so. I know what genuinely heritage, fresh, local food should taste like. I learned how different and similar cultures and people are. I’m at home almost anywhere. I have friends from lots of countries and cultures. I experienced art, culture and architecture different to my own. And the best in the world. I am genuinely adventurous. There are a million reasons living somewhere else is good.

The only real downside is always feeling ‘foreign’ everywhere you go. You never quite fit anywhere. It’s a known ‘international student’ phenomenon. It suits me because I don’t care. But for introverted, slow-approach people, without wanderlust and quick adaptation, it’s an issue. Your 6 yo will already be in that boat, even if you all came back to the UK now.

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Surely at only 6 she would adapt quickly and easily to the uk and forget most things? I barely remember anything pre 6

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Carla786 · 11/11/2025 21:23

Thepeopleversuswork · 10/11/2025 21:20

Leaving aside the fact that at this moment in time being British is possibly more of a curse than a blessing, I do understand the sense of wanting her to understand her heritage.

But I think you can instill that in her in the culture you have at home and the way you talk about Britain. Is she bilingual?

Why a curse?

Swiftie1878 · 11/11/2025 21:26

toomuchfaff · 11/11/2025 21:18

But all of is gone. Even if you were here that childhood is gone.

Not one of my cousins children are scouring nature searching for conkers, collecting conkers, treating them, having competitions with friends on who has the champ. That activity is confined to just memories now.

The world is a changed place, the childhood is hugely different to what you would have had just as our childhood was hugely different to that of our parents...

What you need to do is immerse your children in the traditions of the country you reside, make it magical by giving the memories of your own combined with the available ✨️

We still have conker contests. 🤷🏼‍♀️

InterestedDad37 · 11/11/2025 21:33

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 11/11/2025 20:58

Like What?

Her experiences so far in life. You learn a lot, and a lot is already set in motion by the time you're 6. Language, thought patterns, behavioural tendencies, responses to the world around you. Her life so far is already not what it might have been if she'd grown up in Britain.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2025 21:33

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 11/11/2025 21:18

Surely at only 6 she would adapt quickly and easily to the uk and forget most things? I barely remember anything pre 6

Unless you’re leaving right this second, won’t she be 7 at least? I mean you can’t just drop everything and come back immediately, surely! Give me a child until he is 7 and I will give you the man (probably not but attributed to Aristotle).

Autobiographical memory starts before 6. And certainly my memories of school plays and nativities definitely exist at that age. Yes, most memory won’t be retained but that’s the same at 21! I think your memories of conkers, nativities, and general Britishness is faulty too! Jumpers for goalposts and all that. I think a British childhood was always place-specific and time-specific. South London was more spitting, knives at school and getting robbed for lunch money! Maybe the Cotswolds or somewhere still has a Famous Five/Swallows and Amazons childhood. Where are you planning to move back to?

And adapting is interesting. An adaptable child will make an excellently happy third culture child. A less adaptable child (and that is genetic, hard-wired) won’t be happy dragged all over but might do well living in the same place.

I’m not saying don’t move back. But don’t move back when your child might not be any happier doing it.

Millytante · 11/11/2025 21:37

You can immerse you child in vast amounts of British culture though books and films and cartoons, as well as through food of course.
Surely you and your husband are already familiarising the child with GB through general chat, common references, and above all, the language spoken at home.

I’d not worry. It might even be said that you are giving them the best and ditching the worst, in terms of a ‘British’ upbringing (though presumably this is English, Welsh, Brit-Asian or whatever as opposed to ‘British’, given the multifarious ways being British is experienced back home).

But maybe an annual visit home is indicated now, if you really are concerned about closer links, and no doubt there are cousins and older family for the child get to know better back in Blighty.

toomuchfaff · 11/11/2025 21:48

Swiftie1878 · 11/11/2025 21:26

We still have conker contests. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oh my god do you! Its a distant memory in my circles of friends. I think id be given some weird looks if I suggested it, used to be a massive part if my childhood.

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 22:27

Swiftie1878 · 11/11/2025 21:26

We still have conker contests. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah, the children in my village still play with conkers, and marbles, and they play in the park, ride around on their bikes, and play in the woods that surround the village. Clearly some posters live in places where this doesn't happen anymore. But it does where I live.

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 22:31

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 21:23

Why a curse?

Exactly. It's not a curse being British. Just another batshit comment. Obviously from someone born and raised in the UK...🙄No-one berates the British more than (some) British people. It's quite sickening really. They don't know how bloody fortunate and privileged they are. I think they should hang their head in shame to be honest. Disrespecting their own country like this.

Will they ever leave the UK though? LOL, will they heck as like!

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:35

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 22:31

Exactly. It's not a curse being British. Just another batshit comment. Obviously from someone born and raised in the UK...🙄No-one berates the British more than (some) British people. It's quite sickening really. They don't know how bloody fortunate and privileged they are. I think they should hang their head in shame to be honest. Disrespecting their own country like this.

Will they ever leave the UK though? LOL, will they heck as like!

Unless they want to go to Dubai 🙄 like some people on a recent thread!

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:37

Tigerbalmshark · 11/11/2025 00:21

We moved to Canada when DS was a baby, and back for family reasons when he was 3. And I completely understand what you are saying! We discussed at the time that it would be so weird to have a child who played ice hockey and baseball not football or rounders, and who talked about Canadian cartoons not British ones.

As it happens he is a bit of a mishmash - he still says “fire truck” not “fire engine” because that is what he learned first, but he has a strong South London accent. He did actually grow up loving lots of Canadian kids tv (paw patrol, Dino Dana, wild kratts) but still has mostly UK cultural references. His British childhood is pretty different to mine anyway, just because I’m 35 years older than him, and I grew up in a little village and he grew up in London.

Tbf lots of UK kids like Paw Patrol etc too!

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:42

Maddy70 · 11/11/2025 03:20

You have rose tinted spectacles about growing up in the UK. It's bloody cold, wet , divided, negative and grim. They are growing up in their culture. you can still plonk a turkey on the table at Christmas and do those "British" things

Cold & wet? I guess...hardly Scandinavia or Eastern Europe levels of cold.

Populist parties are rising everywhere, is the UK especially bad compared to the rest of Europe and US?

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2025 22:44

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 22:27

Yeah, the children in my village still play with conkers, and marbles, and they play in the park, ride around on their bikes, and play in the woods that surround the village. Clearly some posters live in places where this doesn't happen anymore. But it does where I live.

Most people don’t live in villages. And I don’t know that OP plans to live in one either.

No issue with it, not for me but lots of people love that kind of life.

OmNomShiva · 11/11/2025 22:45

It doesn’t matter about the country any more than the county, town or village. We’re all from Earth, a tiny little isolated rock surrounded by nothing for trillions of miles. Why draw little lines everywhere ?

Tigerbalmshark · 11/11/2025 22:46

Lionsandtigersandbears7 · 11/11/2025 04:52

I live in the UK ,have never lived elsewhere and I don't understand my heritage or culture..I'm not Scottish or Irish,I'd of felt more of an understanding to that ,I'm just white British..I don't feel anything making me feel I belong here ,or I'm part of being here .
Maybe I need to start a thread asking what being British means to other people

If you had lived somewhere else, you’d feel it! It’s not that the UK has a hugely distinctive culture when you are here, more that when you are living somewhere other than here there are a million little things that are very slightly “wrong” - even if you are living somewhere great that you love.

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:46

Franpie · 10/11/2025 22:09

I think it all depends on how you raise her. I was talking to a friend over the weekend. His dad is Portuguese and his mother is American. He was born in the US but raised in London from a year old.

He was saying he that he has never felt English. He considers himself Portuguese. He father instilled a strong sense of Portugueseness in him. They visited Portugal often as kept a family home there and he was raised bilingual. Despite never having lived there full time (he’s late 30’s now), he is 100% Portuguese in his eyes.

Hmm...so his father chose to raise his children here but didn't want them to feel British first and foremost? Not sure if I agree with that. I think if you move somewhere permanently you should commit that country first.

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:47

toomuchfaff · 11/11/2025 21:48

Oh my god do you! Its a distant memory in my circles of friends. I think id be given some weird looks if I suggested it, used to be a massive part if my childhood.

Tbf conkers are maybe more a rural thing? My mother has memories of it but living in a fairly urban London area it wasn't something on my radar.

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:50

BatchCookBabe · 10/11/2025 22:32

It's pathetic and laughable. All the 'Britiain is shit' 'I'm embarrassed to be British la la la la' bollox, ALWAYS comes from people born and raised here, who have no idea how fucking lucky they are to live here, to have been born here, and to be British. If they don't like it, they can always move to Iran. See how that works out for them!

Honestly, it makes me sick to my stomach when people start babbling on about how AWFUL the UK is, and how terribly embarrassed and ashamed they are to be British. No-one in the world bashes and berates the British like some British people do. They think it makes them sound cool, and quirky, and edgy. They just sound like spoilt brats who don't know how privileged they are!!

Oh and it's not all grim days and grey skies living in Britain FGS. We have just had a brilliant Spring and Summer, and many springs and summers are nice, or at least OK some of the time. And we have a beautiful country, with stunning scenery! It's so rude and ignorant to label it as some kind of shithole (as some people do!)

Many other countries have inclement weather sometimes, and the 'hot' countries suffer hurricanes and tornadoes and biblical flooding. Also, life for young people/teenagers is no easier or better in any other country! Nowhere is bloody perfect. Such ignorant comments, created to pour doom and negativity on living in Britain. Funnily enough, the biggest whingers about this country have never and WILL never leave. They're all full of hot air. Wink

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Exactly! If life here is so terrible, why do people from Asia to Europe to Africa to US want to come here?

Things may not be easy here. But at least now, is that really true for anywhere?

I still firmly believe that Britain is one of the best countries in the world.

Tigerbalmshark · 11/11/2025 22:54

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:37

Tbf lots of UK kids like Paw Patrol etc too!

Yes they do! Though it was hard to get used to the UK dubbed voices (they are totally different! Skye is definitely not welsh in the Canadian version)

It is really obviously set in smalltown coastal British Columbia though, if you have ever been there. With the volunteer firefighters and general store etc. Plus the whole focus on friendships and working together and valuing everyone’s contributions is really really Canadian.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2025 22:55

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:50

Exactly! If life here is so terrible, why do people from Asia to Europe to Africa to US want to come here?

Things may not be easy here. But at least now, is that really true for anywhere?

I still firmly believe that Britain is one of the best countries in the world.

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How many countries have you lived in? Travelled in? You can believe the UK is one of the best but you have to define your terms!

Billions of people aren’t moving here after all.

I’d say it’s good for temperate weather, lack of disasters, lack of predators, general conveniences (running water etc.) but is going downhill in certain ways… The roads are getting worse, the division and anger in politics is terrible. COL keeps getting worse. Housing is shockingly underfunded. The rich/poor gap is crap. Social services are creaking but Brits want to be low tax, high service. Pick one, because you can’t have both.

All in all, pretty good, but not best.

Tigerbalmshark · 11/11/2025 22:57

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:47

Tbf conkers are maybe more a rural thing? My mother has memories of it but living in a fairly urban London area it wasn't something on my radar.

I grew up in a sussex village in the 80s and it wasn’t a thing for us either.

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 22:58

Carla786 · 11/11/2025 22:35

Unless they want to go to Dubai 🙄 like some people on a recent thread!

Will they though? And if they DO go, will they stay? Rather them than me! I wouldn't go there if you paid me!

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 23:02

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2025 22:55

How many countries have you lived in? Travelled in? You can believe the UK is one of the best but you have to define your terms!

Billions of people aren’t moving here after all.

I’d say it’s good for temperate weather, lack of disasters, lack of predators, general conveniences (running water etc.) but is going downhill in certain ways… The roads are getting worse, the division and anger in politics is terrible. COL keeps getting worse. Housing is shockingly underfunded. The rich/poor gap is crap. Social services are creaking but Brits want to be low tax, high service. Pick one, because you can’t have both.

All in all, pretty good, but not best.

Billions of people aren't moving ANYwhere.

Silly comment. 🙄

You keep bashing the UK if it makes you feel better.

You won't leave though. Deep down you know how fortunate you are! Check your privilege!