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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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HRTQueen · 09/11/2025 22:28

Onmytod24 · 09/11/2025 22:09

Trump and musk are trying to control what we British people see read and hear and you are applauding it and think that’s a good thing.

No we are not ffs

we expect the BBC, that is funded by the public to report honest non bias news

the edit is poor sensationalism news expected from the likes of Fox News. And the utter stupidity of this is breathtaking

the BBC is the most respectable news broadcaster in the world and their reputation from a few involved has been extremely damaged

it’s very disappointing

Merrilydancing · 09/11/2025 22:28

Onmytod24 · 09/11/2025 22:09

Trump and musk are trying to control what we British people see read and hear and you are applauding it and think that’s a good thing.

And I’m fucking furious that their bias has played into Trump and Musk’s hands.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 22:29

Onmytod24 · 09/11/2025 22:11

The BBC used to be called auntie because it had a middle class conservative views to say their views are left is ridiculous.

Read
The
Links

They lied, again and again over dozens of subjects to make their pet liberal clique views seem mainstream

In fact women don't have cocks
You don't need to lie about Trumps speeches to make him look stupid
Drag queens are not in fact on every street corner

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Heyhelga · 09/11/2025 22:30

We could easily cancel the TV licence here if it were purely based upon the amount we watch the BBC in this house - zero. But we have NowTV and watch live streaming on that so because the TV licence keep changing the rules in order to justify the licence fee we are unable to cancel the licence fee which annoys me no end. As I said previously, just add the 20-30% transmission costs attached to the license fee as a tax on streaming platforms and be done with the licence fee. Rumours are there are now looking to add the licence fee to council tax in order to prop up the BBC as so many people are cancelling the licence fee.

WildLimePoet · 09/11/2025 22:33

To be honest Trump and Musk are really handing this government and its lefties their arses on a plate.

These people keep trying to take on Trump and Musk and keep falling flat on their faces.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/11/2025 22:33

The way in which the speech was edited was obviously bad, because it misrepresented what Trump had actually been saying in that particular bit of the speech. However, it isn't as if the BBC were just making up the allegation that Trump had incited the Capitol riots. He had already been indicted in the US for his part in the January 6th attack on the Capitol long before the Panorama documentary was aired, and that case was only dismissed after his re-election. So while the BBC edit was clearly inappropriate, it wasn't as if they were the first to suggest that he had been inciting the rioters - that information already in the public domain and had been for a long time.

The BBC produces a vast amount of content and mistakes and misjudgments will be made sometimes. They were too slow to respond to this particular issue and so it's probably right for the DG to stand down. But it's absurd to suggest that the BBC is some sort of liberal left conspiracy - the recently departed DG has stood as a Tory candidate in more than one election and the serving Chair also has links to the Tory party.

TheKeatingFive · 09/11/2025 22:35

Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 22:28

I do think that the trans ideology has set us all against each other. Bloody trump going against it means that any of us that are against it for legitimate reasons are seen as trumpists. It is absolutely godsend for him. When there are real legitimate womens’ reason for being against trans ideology. That are absolutely nothing to do with trump. It’s something he doesn’t care about either but he’s using it obviously like many other things. I am against trump and against trans ideology. There we go.

The notable thing is not that Trump is against giving men rights to women's spaces.

What's notable is that so many left leaning organisations support it.

NoWordForFluffy · 09/11/2025 22:36

Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 22:17

I’ll be doing the same. Good luck.

Ah ha. If you start the process by saying you're moving to somewhere with a licence, on the next page you can then say it's because you don't use the services it covers. So I've cancelled now.

Ratafia · 09/11/2025 22:37

The massive point you are missing is that heads are on the block for this. People in the most senior positions are resigning. You don't see that sort of accountability in commercial broadcasting, at all.

The sheer hypocrisy of right wing papers going after the BBC for misreporting is absolutely nauseous. When Kelvin McKenzie, of all people, popped up criticising them the irony meter went off the scale.

OonaStubbs · 09/11/2025 22:37

How are the BBC going to criticise Trump in the future?

BBC: "Trump is bad, here's why..."

Trump: "FAKE NEWS"

BBC: "No it isn't, OK last time it was, but this time it isn't, honestly..."

Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 22:38

They have no credibility for so many reasons.

Ratafia · 09/11/2025 22:39

But it's absurd to suggest that the BBC is some sort of liberal left conspiracy - the recently departed DG has stood as a Tory candidate in more than one election and the serving Chair also has links to the Tory party.

See also the major right-wing bias of the likes of Laura Kuensberg and Fiona Bruce. The amount of airtime the BBC gives to Reform compared with larger parties like the Lib Dems is ludicrous.

HRTQueen · 09/11/2025 22:40

Merrilydancing · 09/11/2025 22:28

And I’m fucking furious that their bias has played into Trump and Musk’s hands.

Agree

Trump of all people the stupidity of those involved

OonaStubbs · 09/11/2025 22:42

Also, who actually edited the speech? It wasn't Davie or Turness. Shouldn't they be exposed as well? Or the person that told them to edit it?

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 22:43

Reposting to ensure their manipulation and censorship gets seen:

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5439398-bbc-trans-coverage-censored-by-its-own-reporters-corporations-lgbt-desk-keeps-other-perspectives-off-air-leaked-internal-dossier-claims?reply=148422275&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Kemi Badenoch (@KemiBadenoch) on X

It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper. The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that ca...

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

WildLimePoet · 09/11/2025 22:43

Whether you like Trump or not, it’s fun to watch him wipe smug leftie smirks off people’s faces.

ClareBlue · 09/11/2025 22:44

I remember in 1984 when they did a programme about a couple of Torry MPs who they said were linked to fascist organisations. They took pictures of one dressed in a train driver uniform then spliced it into a meeting he attended to make it look like he was attending dressed as a facist. They paid out liable for that programme. Magpies Militants, it was called.
They were found to be changing chronological orders of footage of the Minner's strike to fit an agenda of portraying violence and police responses. Cut and paste again. The list is long and the same issues again and again. They set up with the IRA and filmed an illegal road block on the border once to suite an Agenda. Always same response of someone resigns and lessons will be learned, and the culture continues and they get caught again and again. Bashir and Diana interview another disgrace with the lies he told to get the interview.
The first time they were caught distorting the truth was the reporting of the 1926 Minner's strike with a right wing agenda.

HellsBalls · 09/11/2025 22:44

@Ratafia ’The amount of airtime the BBC gives to Reform compared with larger parties like the Lib Dems is ludicrous.’

That’s somewhat explained because Reform will put up someone to comment on any story, off the cuff.
The other parties have to check with head office what their line is on that story, and that takes hours.

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 22:44

OonaStubbs · 09/11/2025 22:37

How are the BBC going to criticise Trump in the future?

BBC: "Trump is bad, here's why..."

Trump: "FAKE NEWS"

BBC: "No it isn't, OK last time it was, but this time it isn't, honestly..."

Exactly. Maybe their disinformation correspondent should have been reporting on the BBC.

1dayatatime · 09/11/2025 22:51

I think it's somewhat harsh on the BBC Director and News Director to lose their jobs. The persons that edited the footage of Trump's speech to deliberately change it's meaning are to blame and sadly symptomatic of a biased culture within the BBC (if it was evenly biased or simply a cock up then we would see examples of the BBC making errors that say favoured Trump). The same applies to the bias from BBC Arabic and also on the trans topics.

If anyone thinks that this ingrained bias is going to change with the resignation of two Directors then they are deluded. The entire culture of the BBC has to change in order to create a genuinely neutral news reporting service that historically the BBC was held up to be.

Practically speaking I don't think that is actually possible which in turn questions the future or at least the content of the BBC. Or in short if they can't impartially report the news or produce current affairs they maybe they should just be stopped from doing it?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 22:58

1dayatatime · 09/11/2025 22:51

I think it's somewhat harsh on the BBC Director and News Director to lose their jobs. The persons that edited the footage of Trump's speech to deliberately change it's meaning are to blame and sadly symptomatic of a biased culture within the BBC (if it was evenly biased or simply a cock up then we would see examples of the BBC making errors that say favoured Trump). The same applies to the bias from BBC Arabic and also on the trans topics.

If anyone thinks that this ingrained bias is going to change with the resignation of two Directors then they are deluded. The entire culture of the BBC has to change in order to create a genuinely neutral news reporting service that historically the BBC was held up to be.

Practically speaking I don't think that is actually possible which in turn questions the future or at least the content of the BBC. Or in short if they can't impartially report the news or produce current affairs they maybe they should just be stopped from doing it?

Two people being fired isn’t harsh it’s not enough. All 20,000 should go. All of them. The BBC is not fit for purpose.

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MarthaBeach · 09/11/2025 23:01

InterestedDad37 · 09/11/2025 20:28

Every right wing nutter claims the Beeb is basically full of commies.
Every left wing nutter claims the Beeb is basically full of nazis.
The reality is (duh!) somewhere in the middle.
It's like the NHS - deeply flawed, but we're totally stuffed if we lose it!
Don't just wish it away.

This! - except that I agree that they had a pro-trans agenda, giving no air time to gender critical women until recently.

1dayatatime · 09/11/2025 23:05

MarthaBeach · 09/11/2025 23:01

This! - except that I agree that they had a pro-trans agenda, giving no air time to gender critical women until recently.

But if the truth is that the BBC contains both right wing bias and left wing bias then why are there only left wing / liberal examples of biased editing of Trump's speech, trans rights and BBC Arabic's reporting.

Surely if there were an equal mix of left and right we would be seeing examples of right wing biased reporting as well??

1dayatatime · 09/11/2025 23:08

MarthaBeach · 09/11/2025 23:01

This! - except that I agree that they had a pro-trans agenda, giving no air time to gender critical women until recently.

So you don't think the BBC is biased on topics that you agree with them on such as Trump but you do think that they are biased on topics that you don't agree with them on such as the trans topic?

Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 23:08

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 22:58

Two people being fired isn’t harsh it’s not enough. All 20,000 should go. All of them. The BBC is not fit for purpose.

I absolutely agree. They are not fit for purpose. Same as the nhs management structure that the have endorsed.