Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

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I’ve lost a fair amount of weight naturally this year. It’s been hellish as I’m fairly sure I have some sort of psychological reliance on comfort eating. I asked a couple of people I know if they recommend I go on WL jabs for the last stretch as I have lost momentum and am stagnating but could probably still do with losing another 20 pounds. They always say well “WL jabs still elan you have to put in the work. The fat doesn’t evaporate”. I’m sorry but WHAT. The injections are doing the hard bit for you. Ie stopping you from wanting to shovel large amounts of unhealthy food in your gob. It’s very annoying. I see this comment online all the time too.

I definitely do not have an issue with people on WL jabs. I would use them too but I am saving up for a mummy makeover so have chosen to save my money as a SAHM.

Very defensive comments imo!

I'm on wegovy and I agree with you. I've lost 7 stone in just over a year. Clearly I couldn't do it without wegovy because I didn't so of course it's easier. Everybody's different of course but along with less food noise and hunger it also seems to help me make better choices. So I might be hungry and think I'll have some crisps, then I have a word with myself and have a hard boiled egg or something instead. Never would have done that before the WLI.

Congratulations on your weight loss by the way!

Indeed, but what’s the matter with something being easier 🤷‍♀️

Or does everyone purposefully make their life difficult? As that’s just odd.

I’m a terrible comfort eater. It’s not really helping. I’ve lost 2 pounds in about 8 weeks. But hoping more comes off when I get to a higher dose

You're right. Of course not eating is far easier than eating if you have no interest in eating. Why would the jabs work if that weren't true?
That said, if I needed the jabs to loose weight, I'd proudly admit it to anyone. We should all be taking that level of responsibility for our own health given the NHS is on its last legs.
Well done on your weight loss OP.

I lost 6 stone “the natural way” as well, over 15
months and on Slimming World. I lost the weight much faster than on WLI as well, and put it all back on eventually. I was pretty smug about how I’d beaten all my bad habits too. On WLI I eat when I’m hungry, I eat mainly healthily with a few treats here and there, and I still eat full fat yoghurt and olive oil.

I honestly don’t care if I’m on them the rest of my life, I’m doing it for my own wellbeing, and I think that those old fashioned “moral” ideas about WL have done nothing but hurt me and my female relatives who have struggled with their weight for lifetimes.

When you finally start them you can report here how ‘easy’ it is, and wait for the weight to just melt away whilst you nibble on a lettuce leaf…

This!!! I can’t believe this is the first comment mentioning the pancreas. People have NO idea what they are doing to their bodies. Absolutely nuts how people care more about losing weight than they do about getting cancer

WTF is a ’Mummy makeover’?

I don't think the OP said there was a problem with doing it the easy way, though. She just seems to be annoyed that people won't admit it's easier.

I can't understand why anyone cares either way, TBH. Use them or don't, what's the big fuss?

I'm a comfort eater and did think of trying the jabs at the point that my BMI would have made me a candidate, but once I read about the side effects knew that I couldn't tolerate them.

A friend is on them - he needs to lose weight for specific medical reasons - and is having to tolerate gastro problems.

Not sure why you've reacted like this, especially when their advice comes from direct experience and your objection to it does not.

Fwiw I'm on MJ, BMI rapidly approaching 25 and I don't feel I've worked particularly hard, albeit I had ok habits wrt things like fibre and protein already and wasn't a binge eater. But the key is to not make one's own experiences the definitive standard.

I do think there's a dishonesty about it.
The dieting forums used to be full of people saying they were different, it wasn't about what you ate because they followed the diet and ate like a sparrow but never lost weight.
Those same people lost buckets of weight on wli. My understanding is that the drugs don't systemically make you lose weight, they just make you eat less.

People I know who've been going to weight watchers for 20 years and never looked different are now slim. They haven't suddenly started trying harder the are just eating less.
So it's a miracle drug in most respects and must have the potential to save the NHS millions in the long term. Not sure how I'd feel about taking it for life though.

Ozempic for me was a magic cure. No side affects, no hunger, weight just dropped off.

But with Wegovy, its very different. Sickness can be debilitating sometimes. Doesn't stop the food noise completely, just partially. So yes, i still need to put the work in and eat healthier etc.

Might still be worth a try? Lots of people have no side effects at all. The only side effect I've had is losing six stone in a year!

Well, there is an idea from some that you just lose weight without actually changing anything. For me it just stopped food cravings (which sometimes were really overwhelming.)

I do think there is an idea that doing it the ‘hard way’ is somehow more virtuous and teaches the fatty a lesson which is nonsense but I do get that impression from the OP, to be honest,

I mean being morbidly obese brings a higher cancer risk, so?

I would say I can't believe you've not even considered the elevated risk of many cancers that obesity poses and the reality that most formerly obese people who lose weight through diet don't keep it off. But actually it's all too believable. Predictable, even.

What is a 'mummy makeover'?

Ah you misunderstand me - no smugness here! All weight loss is hard work and all weight loss should be celebrated regardless of how it's achieved imo. Food noise is so hard to ignore, let alone overcome. I still battle food noise daily, I don't think it'll ever go away.

Many WLI users are not morbidly obese though. The majority of the ones I know are/were a bit overweight, busy, and dont live lifestyles that enable/support the sustained healthy eating and exercise regime that weight loss in your late 40s and 50s requires.

It’s so easy to get them online without being morbidly obese.

I'm just under the cut-off line now - my BMI is 28.9, after taking more than two years to lose 2st 4lbs. (I have the same again to lose.)

Well done on losing the six stone. I'm betting that you feel so much better in yourself?

Possibly, but she's going to "cheat" by getting a mummy makeover, and she hasn't actually said that she thinks doing it the "hard" way is more virtuous, so who knows.

But, I agree there are a lot of goady threads on here digging at people who use WLI, and I just cannot fathom why anyone cares!

I kind of agree with you OP tbh. I’ve been losing on average a pound a week since June on MJ. I eat a lot LESS and it’s changed my need to comfort eat, that’s purely the drug. That’s what’s led to the weight loss as I’m still eating the same foods. I’m just eating less. I’m not doing more exercise. It’s not hard, and that’s what I need at the moment. I will put more hard work in as I get smaller - eating (even) better, more exercise.

Also I noticed incredible reduced inflammation 10 days - 2 weeks after starting the drug. Eg I no longer have to recover from a run, whereas off the drug it takes me a good 3 days to stop aching. People say that weight loss helps inflammation - yes, but I hadn’t lost any weight yet 10 days in. That’s purely the drug.

Of course the drugs help massively. That’s the whole point.

It does make things easier, of course it does. Certainly way easier than having bits of yourself lopped off.

Weight loss without WLI tends to be bloody hard work, and miserable to boot. With WLI it has it’s own challenges (just read any thread in the topic), but those challenges don’t tend to include being unable to stop stuffing your face.

They do include people hating on you for using the smart solution for getting healthy though. It’s deeply odd.

I wasn’t morbidly obese but I was pretty vast. I was 15 and a half stone and at 5’3, just under the morbidly obese line.

Something doesn’t have to be life threatening to seriously impact your life, as anyone with chronic pain will tell you.