Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

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I’ve lost a fair amount of weight naturally this year. It’s been hellish as I’m fairly sure I have some sort of psychological reliance on comfort eating. I asked a couple of people I know if they recommend I go on WL jabs for the last stretch as I have lost momentum and am stagnating but could probably still do with losing another 20 pounds. They always say well “WL jabs still elan you have to put in the work. The fat doesn’t evaporate”. I’m sorry but WHAT. The injections are doing the hard bit for you. Ie stopping you from wanting to shovel large amounts of unhealthy food in your gob. It’s very annoying. I see this comment online all the time too.

I definitely do not have an issue with people on WL jabs. I would use them too but I am saving up for a mummy makeover so have chosen to save my money as a SAHM.

Very defensive comments imo!

"It definitely doesn’t stop food cravings. It makes you physically ill if you eat the wrong things but it doesn’t stop you wanting them in the first place".

In my case I find the exact opposite. There are lots things I used to love/crave which I don't even like now (including tea, how weird is that!). And I don't get physically ill from anything, I can eat anything I like (eating a muffin right now because my DS made it at school) but often I just don't bother. When I eat the things I still do like I enjoy them just as much, I am just happy with a smaller amount.

As the original poster, I have shed 20% of my weight doing it the old fashioned way - watching what I eat and upping the exercise

Shifting the weight was actually the easy bit, its been keeping it off ( 2 years now ) that's the hard part

I never even knew the expression "food noise" until I joined here. I thought everyone thought about food all the time

I think about food all my waking hours, what can I eat that I like, really fancy, be healthy, give me the macros I need - when I never want to see another bowl of fruit and yoghurt again?

Im fighting not going to McD's to try some of the world food range, I dont even like McD's but I see the adverts, I want to try. But I know if I step inside the door Id order one of everything, then have to spend the rest of the week cutting back everywhere else

Some habits are so ingrained. It's like if I dont take a drink, I dont look one. If I take just one drink, the bottle in going down the neck. Its the same with chocolate, crisps, bread, butter - if I dont start I can keep away

So I have to shop wisely - I dont buy my triggers. Doesn't stop me wanting them

So making the decision to get off the Yo Yo dieting bandwagon, means I have to deny myself a lot - and denying myself every day is hard. But to be honest, the longer I go before cave ins, the less damage is done - I tend to feel sick and bloaty pretty quick if I eat junk

If an injection stopped that want, made it easier, I would take it like a shot. I dont think it's taking the easy route , not at all. Hopefully the new research into tablets may be that magic bullet for me

Until that is found I have to live as I do. Planning my meals, stopping eating as soon as I feel full, making meals high protein, high fibre , full of veg and legumes , planning trips out to town around meal times so Im not tempted, no snacking

Still its not so bad, I can now at least go out an exercise, joints arent so sore, blood pressure is manageable, and best of all I can wear what I want, rather then what fits

Well, they worked for me with my emotional eating issues, although I have had a couple of binges in the 12 months I've been on them (but a couple over a year versus multiple a week is a vast improvement), so I'd say you can only give them a go. What do you have to lose?

Mounjaro took away cravings in their entirety. All my comfort foods: pizza, Chinese, McDonald’s, chocolate and sweets could be celery and lettuce. But it does seem to differ from person to person .

You keep saying you’re not jealous but it really comes across you are, as you’d love to take the drugs and can’t afford it, I’d just own it really.

yes it’s easier, that’s the whole point, but you still need to do the work, eat the right foods, cal count, exercise, be hydrated, eat your protein etc.

so both things can be true, they are not mutuality exclusive.

and by rhe way, yeah they are great.

I would rethink the ‘Mummy makeover’ if you couldn’t afford WLI; you’ve done well so far without them so probably would no longer qualify. You’ll need to work on your diet so that you can eat healthily; that’s what is good about Mounjaro etc - it makes it easier to make good choices.

I’ve just googled a ‘mummy makeover’… boob job, lipo and tummy tuck?! I know we all have different priorities in life but I’d far rather spend the money on WLI 🤷🏻‍♀️

Same here, besides which don't you have to be at the right weight already before you can have a tummy tuck?

Mounjaro makes it easy to lose weight. Anyone who says otherwise is being defensive about it. I took it for 5 months and lost 4 stone easily. I’ve managed to maintain but it’s been harder as the food noise came back.

YANBU. Weight loss jabs are actually anti-greed jabs.

It's the compulsive greed and the attitude that hunger immediately needs to be quashed that makes obese people overeat. Hunger is just a mildly unpleasant sensation, it won't harm you.

WLI's cost far less than the tens of thousands a proper mummy makeover performed by a UK surgeon will cost so a bit confused how OP will be affording it if WLI are out of reach!

And actually, a lot of people don’t really want other people to lose weight as they value being slim, or losing weight the hard way as being something superior. If certainly everybody can be slim, then what’s special about them?

They do cancel food noise, and if the comfort eating is what makes staying in a calories deficit hard for you, then you actually are quite a good candidate for weight loss jabs. (Alongside some CBT/mindfulness around food too).

I think people are defensive because saying it's an easy way out trivialises all their success, many people have tried to loose weight their whole life and reaching their goal weight has literally been a lifetime wish achieved they don't like to be made to feel like their cheating. But yes, they are quite literally designed to help people loose weight, you can infer that having help makes it easier. That's why they exist. But there other considerations like working out to prevent muscle loss, counting macros and nutrients etc, but largely most people loosing weight do this anyway.

Biased as I lost a lot a lot of weight without jabs before they were available and it was hard and I would have liked to try them if I needed to loose weight again.

I lost 80lb the hard way, and kept it off until long COVID knee capped me (unable to exercise and sugar cravings were a killer combo).

Nothing actually wrong with my current lifestyle except for portion control to lose weight and extra exercise to recondition my body. Neither of which I have the time and willpower for with a toddler in tow now.

It absolutely is easier than willpower, that's the whole bloody point. HOWEVER - your body usually doesn't like losing weight (even if it likes the results) and you can feel a bit whacked even if you didn't put in the mental/physical effort to achieve it.

I would only accept comments to the contrary from someone who's experienced both tbh. If you've never had to lose more than a stone then you're not really equipped to comment.

I've lost 4 stone on my own over the last 2 years and boy has it been tough. I've now been the same weight for nearly a year and I've been ringing round some clinics (private GP/private hospital) to look into WLI's as I'm sick of eating well but staying the same weight. I'd ideally like to lose another 2 to 3 stone.

But, I'm just not brave enough after talking to my GP about it. I'm type 2 diabetic and will need to come off current medication - and I'm worried about the side effects on my pancreas and gall bladder (had cholecystitis a few times). Having spoken at length to DH about it, I think I'd rather stay at the weight I am. I can't understand how people are risking their health with it, honestly.

My healths grand 🤷‍♀️ like really pretty much perfect. Mental as well as physical.

How are we risking our health, you do understand we are not all suffering rhe same health issues as you?

what risks our health is obesity.

To be fair, I did see a thread about someone saying that they'd had a huge curry the first night and felt awful.

One thing that's different to trad weight loss is that because I can just STOP whenever I want during a meal, I'd say I'm more able to have a little bit of what I want - instead of going cold turkey on the "good stuff".

But then my diet habits were never that bad, only portion habits got bad during breastfeeding post-LC.

I have absolutely no dog in this fight, as a person who is significantly underweight (autistic) and is on a medication that's supposed to increase my appetite (mirtazipine). But I don't really understand the objections.

Clearly, WLI make it easier for people to stick to a calorie deficit. I don't think anyone denies this. Otherwise what would be the point of them? No-one is paying hundreds of pounds per month for a medication that doesn't make it easier to stick to a calorie deficit, which is all weight loss comes down to. It seems to me that this is excellent news. Just like when any other medication is invented that helps a lot of people with a significant problem. People who are taking it are either prescribed by the NHS, in which case they must be in a state of really significant poor health, and no more to be envied than I would envy a person with alcoholism being prescribed antabuse. OR, they're paying for it. Quite a lot of money. You're angry that other people have an easier method of doing something that's hard for you? Well, you have the same options to get it as anyone else does - really significant health problems to get prescribed, or...pay money. In which case....you're angry that other people have more disposable income, I guess? That's...not going to be productive.

(Edited because I wrote WLS instead of WLI, wrong abbreviation)

I am being investigated for gallstones that have probably precipitated by WLI, and my GP was crystal clear that she was supportive of me proceeding with caution.

You still have to do the exercising, you still have to learn more healthy habits and cook healthier food. Doesn't sound like you need them though, all that burning resentment will fuel the old metabolism.

I have done 2 stone on my own with 800Fast and 2 stone on MJ.
I love MJ, I think it is a super drug, if I can be on it for life I would.

I can still eat and I do, I still get hungry but rarely starving, or that feeling of cold and desperately need to eat everything in sight.

I managed to go out on Sat eat and drink. What it has done is made me feel fuller for longer; helped me make sensible choices (still have a sweet tooth so this might be phycological). More importantly I ache a lot less, I eat really well. Limit carbs especially bread. I am still putting the effort in. I am only on 5mg, weight loss has stalled but I have had birthday parties, gourmet meals out, holidays etc. What it has done is got me back on track, so I haven't gained. I might go up to get the last stone off. But I am fairly relaxed about it. I might go up to 7.5 in the new year.

I have energy, I do weights 5 times a week. I feel amazing. I think I look amazing; I am in my sixties and have not been this slim in 30 years! I think exercise is key with it. If you can afford it go on it. We are all different but I have not had any side effects.

Ive lost 2 stone no effort whatsoever. I'm now at a healthy weight which im maintaining again no effort whatsoever. J dont live in anyone else's head so can't speak for them but me yes its effortless just as well as any effort I make to eat less is doomed to failure.

Why do you care what other people think about the weight loss jabs? If you think they work a a certain way then good for you.But they don't work the same for everyone.In fact, they didn't work at all for me. As you have no practical concept of them really other than what you've read I don't know why you would care whether some people say you still need to have will power or not.

Read your replies OP but not the full thread. So apologies if this has already been said but maybe the reason your friends are telling you this is that you’ve shown them you don’t fully understand how these meds work. You DO have to put in the work, plodding weight loss is by far the norm. And appetite suppression is variable and depends on the level and type of metabolic disease that caused the overweight or obesity in the first place.

Unless you’re four foot nothing, no reputable doctor will prescribe this for a 20lb loss.

Finally, your language is a bit judgey. People eat, they don’t “shovel”. Subtext here is that you think overweight/obesity is caused by greed and/or unhealthy diets. Not true. Metabolic disease causes it, and WLI treat metabolic disease.

If you want appetite suppression, score some speed.