Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

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I’ve lost a fair amount of weight naturally this year. It’s been hellish as I’m fairly sure I have some sort of psychological reliance on comfort eating. I asked a couple of people I know if they recommend I go on WL jabs for the last stretch as I have lost momentum and am stagnating but could probably still do with losing another 20 pounds. They always say well “WL jabs still elan you have to put in the work. The fat doesn’t evaporate”. I’m sorry but WHAT. The injections are doing the hard bit for you. Ie stopping you from wanting to shovel large amounts of unhealthy food in your gob. It’s very annoying. I see this comment online all the time too.

I definitely do not have an issue with people on WL jabs. I would use them too but I am saving up for a mummy makeover so have chosen to save my money as a SAHM.

Very defensive comments imo!

One, you don't have to come off them. Two, on a population level most people who were previously obese and lose weight through diet will put the weight back on.

As someone on them, it's utter nonsense anyway lol. I did literally NOTHING other than jab myself weekly and three stone melted away in less than four months. I would never insult the hard work of people who lose weight the usual way by pretending my way was anything other than a doddle!

Why? Because it’s only an achievement if you do it the ‘hard’ way? Because fat people should be punished for having got fat in the first place?

The Covid jabs were far newer than WLI at the point of use for each.

Also, a daily calorie defect is exactly how you lose weight on WLI

I think what’s interesting is that we equate what you’re calling ‘hard work’ - ie exerting willpower over cravings - with good, virtuous values, and that by doing it via medication as therefore not virtuous, good or worthy.

I can see why you might think it’s easier on the weight loss jabs (although there can be tricky side effects that make it not a walk in the park) and so roll your eyes a bit at the comments, I do too, but what’s the actual point to me is, why does it matter to us now? Why do we think the perceived ‘hard way’ makes us somehow more worthy?

Same for DH. He has had to put no effort at all in to losing many kilos on Mounjaro.

OP, I agree with you! The whole point of WLI is that they don't require the usual effort.

That isn't totally true OP. I realised pretty quickly when trying them they only suppress a bit for some people and most certainly do not stop emotional eating, the kind where you eat even when not hungry (yes that's me) sadly.

Exactly this. And why is ‘having willpower’ considered a virtue more worthy than any others?

That’s exactly what it is and that’s why people do get eye rolly about these sorts of threads.

You are a fatty and therefore in the process of not being a fatty should feel maximum discomfort. If not, you should be a fatty forever!

Probably. Just as I did when I lost it the hard way … not once either, many times. I’ve weighed everything between 9 and a half and seventeen and a half stone as an adult. I’ve lost, gained, lost more, gained more, many many times.

This is so true . I am on them and still snacking on sweet stuff - its a comfort/habit thing 4 me.

I’ve never been on them, but know tonnes of people who have, including DH. For all of them, it removed the food noise. For most people, that’s the biggest barrier to weight loss.

However, I also know lots of them struggled with side effects. My DH was only on them for 4 weeks before coming off because he was absolutely miserable. Nausea, headaches, tiredness etc. It also made him pretty anti-social.

My point is they aren’t a miracle cure. There are still issues to overcome; they’re just different ones.

Weight loss jabs must take over a lot of the work because many people who have tried to diet multiple times and failed have found they can on the jabs. I know several people like this and they all admit that it almost completely removes the food noise and hunger.

I have not really "put in the work" and I have lost 2.5 stone on MJ, without much effort at all. In my case it does prevent me from wanting certain foods at all, and pretty much stops me thinking about food (I never really had the "food noise" but on MJ I often forget to eat at all, and of course feel full much sooner). So yes, it has made weight loss easier even without trying. I wouldn't call it a "cheat" as that sounds to pejorative, but it's a tool to make something very difficult, much much easier.

And so what, what's wrong with that? I'm not defensive about it. I fully own it. We use hundreds of things every day to make hard things easier. Why should weight loss be the only thing that people won't admit has been made easier? Should we be using slide rules because calculators make arithmetic too easy? Do we judge people who get grocery deliveries because they haven't "put in the work" to get their shopping? I am perfectly happy to make my life easier, I'm not going to pretend MJ has not done that. If someone was to say to me "you haven't put in the work" I'd say, no, I haven't, that's the magic of MJ, even a lazy arse like me can lose weight, isn't it great!

I came off it 13 months and 11 days ago, to be precise. Currently 2lbs lighter than when I took my last dose.

"Weight loss jabs are fairly new".

The drugs now being called "weight loss drugs" aren't new, they have just been given a new condition they can be prescribed for.

"Daily calorie deficit will be better for your health".

That's literally how they work.

I have to say, I don't know anyone on them who says they're 'putting in the work'. The whole point is that they make it easy. For many people weight loss is incredibly hard, maintaining it even harder. Yes of course you might put the weight back on when you come off, but 1) you don't have to come off, and 2) the same is true of any diet. I'm 44 and I couldn't even count how many times I've worked really, really hard to lose weight in my life... only for it to go back on as soon as I stop obsessing over food.

I do but it’s usually in this sort of context

person a ‘I’m thinking of starting Mounjaro’
Person b ‘it’s brilliant but it isn’t a fix all … you do still have to put in the work and eat healthily.’

thats all.

Totally with you OP. WLI users telling people not on them that they still have to work just as hard as they would without them (then why take them if there's literally no advantage?). Its like somebody cycling a bike to a destination and telling the person who walked there that cycling isn't easy... Of course cycling requires a decent amount of effort but it takes a lot longer and is more gruelling to walk the same distance.

I have zero judgement about people using WLI because losing weight is hard and for some people depending on hormones/thyroids/arthritis/lots of issues and circumstances it's damn near impossible! But don't be sanctimonious towards people who are trying to lose weight without them.

Are we upset that people are so casually suggesting getting WL drugs or that they are not acknowledging that it is harder without drugs?

I agree OP. I’ve learned I eat because I want to, not because of hunger. I can eat when not hungry. So I had to wait until hitting the two top amounts before I felt full enough to stop me from eating because I wanted to.

it might be because different people have different reasons for overeating.

I have definitely been putting in the work in the same way I have any other time I have tried to lose weight, but it is easier one WLI than those times - this time I have managed to stick to it. I still have to plan my food as before, buy and cook healthy meals. I still have to put in the effort when it comes to exercising etc it’s not any easier to do that than before. So while it absolutely is easier for me on WLI that doesn’t equate to it being easy

OK, now I'm confused...I'm about to start Wegovy but I know that my biggest issue is emotional eating...some people say the WLI help with that, some people say they don't make any difference to that...

I don't know whether to try them or not...part of me is thinking that nothing else has worked for the last 20 years so I might as well give it a try?

Well it’s definitely less effort or people wouldn’t pay for it. People I know on it said they’d never have lost the weight without the jabs stopping the food noise.