The immigration related clown show continues

[WildLimePoet]

So now an Algerian national who was released by mistake last week is at large. As if the previous debacle with the Epping forest sex offender wasn’t bad enough.

The fact that we are hearing about this again and again tells us that,
This happens all the time
Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics
Immigration is out of control
People working in Home office, prison service and and every other government department are incompetent and beyond useless.

And these people have the audacity to tell us that they want more of the public’s money in taxes.

At this point, this government (and the previous one) is laughing at us. They are taking the piss out of us. This country is broken and Labour and Tories need to be voted so far into oblivion and out of power that they never get anywhere power, ever again.

The number of prisoners released accidentally has increased by 128% in the last year.
It has got worse since Labour took office.

Bond market calls on Reeves to double fiscal buffer to 20bn.

Reuters.

This is Reeves real Master, not the electorate.

I am not arguing with that. More prisoners got released, more mistakes got made.

Can you explain how Labour has made the prison system worse?

Absolutely. Starmer and Reeves have thrown in the towel with the electorate, this is just about not collapsing entirely due to the markets.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/nov/06/prisoner-release-david-lammy-latest-live-politics-news-updates?

Prison governors in England accuse Conservatives of being ‘disingenuous’ and point to effects of austerity

I would have thought the links I posted upthread clearly explained whats happened over the past 12 months, ie since Labour took office.
Early releases up from 13K to almost 40K, and a 128% increase in prisoners released accidentally. Proposed Sentencing Bill expected to increase crime by 6%.
Its all there, posted above, and all happening on Labour’s watch.

Yes, that’s why Reeves cried last summer.

She knew she was cornered.

Full statement

https://prison-governors-association.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/PGA-PRESS-RELEASE-6-Nov-2025.pdf

Those links explain how Labour inherited a broken system

At this point, this government (and the previous one) is laughing at us. They are taking the piss out of us.

The strange thing about this so called uncontrollable immigration to me is how the entire EU and UK were suddenly able to hault it nearly completely during covid. Up until then, they had all been telling us that when people come in with no documents, it's difficult to stop them or send them back for 2 reasons: a) you don't know where they came from because no documents and b) human rights

Then come covid. They all miraculously shut their borders and neither the documents, nor human rights posed any issues then. Are we being laughed at? I don't know!

Yes shame they can’t do so now for about 5 years’ or more

Its like a stuck record isn't?

IPSOS Have Tories on 14% Labour on 22%, Reform 34% October 2025.
YouGOv Tories 15%, Labour 20% Reform 27% November 2025.

These are poll of polls.

Why is the Prison System still using paper record keeping? Why didn't the Tories update this far earlier?

At Labour are modernising now.

Only a complete idiot would put this situation at the door of Labour.

They explain that things have deteriorated further in the last 12 months, as you know.
Yet you seem determined to defend them no matter what the evidence shows. What will you say if those metrics continue to get worse over the next 4 years?

Unfortunately the stuck record that is Labour is just pissing more people off over time.

Well unfortunately for Labour, others will do well out of it.

Yep.

Why are we having early releases? any ideas?

This explains the situation the Tories got us into:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93x001ve9ko#:~:text=It%20replaced%20a%20separate%20scheme,goings%22%20across%20the%20penal%20estate.

Ummmmm a lack of planning for the correct number of prison places? the public demand is for harsher and harsher sentences, the Con never built for this increase.

Its not rocket science.

You blaming Lab for this, would be like me blaming Johnson for Covid, it wouldn't be fair and neither are you.

I've already posted the same link earlier on the thread.

I'm blaming Labour for the last 16 months. Have they improved things, or have the figures got worse in that time?
Do you think it was reasonable for Lammy to spend yesterday morning shopping for a new suit?

So is your answer is to vote Reform who are full of ex Tory MPs? Reform who have taken Russian bribes (Nathan Gill) and have no interest in supporting the rights of working people or women?

Farage the millionaire ex-banker always votes against policies that protect women (against harassment, against upskirting, stalking, drink spiking). Who thinks that young people should accept less than the minimum pay because that will make them hungry for success. One of the Reform run councils in Warwickshire is proposing to do away with free transport for children under eight who live more than 2 miles from school each way to save money (reform aren’t for the working class).

Reform who made this country poorer through Brexit and will line his pocket if he becomes PM?

Or are you proposing to support another party like the Greens? As it isn’t very clear.

Makes you wonder if there is something they are deliberately not telling us because if you notice this so called uncontrollable immigration has become an issue in practically every European country simultaneously. You could almost say it's a part of a conscious and deliberate policy but then someone will accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist, of course!

Having said this, migration is nonetheless a coordinated effort at the UN level, and the UN "urges governments to pursue gender-transformative, human rights-based migration policies in partnership with trade unions and civil society"

I guess what's happening now is how certainly all European governments see the pursuit of those policies. I don't know where the rights of local populations come into it though.

Are you ok? It’s a thread on the internet. Calm down.

Yeah I'm good, thanks for asking. I see you like to chuck insults out, but don't respond so well if you get push back

While being fully on the side of the rational argument that the crisis in the prison service has deep roots, I am totally frustrated by Lammy's deplorable series of own goals yesterday and his ill-judged attempts to redeem himself: no poppy so he ends up wearing a veteran's poppy on the wrong lapel; says that he went shopping 'this morning' then changes it to Monday morning; far, far too angry for a public performance at the dispatch box, in the very week that a French prosecutor accuses him of an 'incoherent rant'; has a statement about the accidentally released Algerian in his folder yet doesn't read it out, subsequently passing blame to the Met and is now accused by the opposition of misleading the House.

Angela Rayner would have done so much better but alas didn't pay enough stamp duty.