To think gentle parenting has made some kids unbearable to be around?

[KindButFirmFox]

Boundaries aren’t oppression.
Sometimes “gentle” just looks like “ineffective”.

AIBU to think balance has been lost between empathy and discipline?

Is it? Because I initially you seemed pretty sure we were all wrong and you had it nailed.

So just from the fact it was effective on you
you have extrapolated that If a child was really wilfully naughty, a short sharp smack on the butt can be very effective.

ok

Exactly
it wasn’t framed as an opinion
it was very much it IS effective

when in actual fact, bugger all experience of parenting

Really? Despite my repeating ad nauseam Yes, it's all theoretical. Quite possibly I'd feel differently if I'd actually had them.

For the SIXTH TIME: Yes, it's all theoretical. Quite possibly I'd feel differently if I'd actually had them.

I think you and Barn need to work on your reading comprehension!

Now you keep repeating that

in the multiple posts before that, you speak definitively and dogmatically about how smacking definitely can be effective

Well, I'm sorry that you can't cope with people having an opinion!

Indeed. You added that later

Whatever. 🙄

You spend a great deal on mumsnet threads
talking about your views on parenting
dozens and dozens and dozens of times

when all your views are based on your experience of being parented many decades ago

Nope. I do however dislike anyone using a platform to try to talk other people into hitting children while somehow completely unaware of how sinister that is.

Ah if only we all had such considered viewpoints

You were told by @Horsie to “shut up” previously 😆

I think sarcastic parenting is greatly underrated!

YES, you're right, Barnbrack. I am a very sinister person - a man, obvs, like you said - and my aim is to get everyone hitting their children. I also only come out at night and I eat children for breakfast. 🙄 Could you be any sillier?

There's a difference between authoritive (what I call gentle parenting) and permissive parenting (what I call not parenting at all but what alot of people assume is gentle parenting). The children who are permissively parented are unbearable to be around but thats not because of "gentle parenting" thats because those kids aren't being parented at all.

Bizarre

Ew, stop being a stalker.

I thought you’d flounced from discussing with @Barnbrack ?

You are everywhere
literally all over mumsnet

I am flouncing now.

Oh NO! Someone who takes part!! Quick, get the cops!

You've literally suggested all ills are due to people not hitting their kids.

The rest of your nonsense is a straw man

I absolutely did not.

You take part alright

spouting off your views on how to effectively parent 😆