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AIBU?

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To divorce or overreacting?

401 replies

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
Dozycuntlaters · 03/11/2025 12:14

To be honest, usually in a relationship there is one who is a planner and one that just goes along. When I was married, I planned everything, parties, dinners, holidays, and I never minded. We each had a role in our marriage and I sort of took that one on.

You say he doesnt express his love for you with words, yet you say he tells you he loves you in the morning and before bed. So he does express love with words.

You are projecting your issues onto him. This is a YOU issue, and seriously if you end your what sounds like a great marriage over this minute details then you are seriously bonkers. He sounds like a good man and for me the only strange thing about him was he cut off his some of his family for you.

We are all different, not cut from the same cloth, and just because you need reasurrance for your peace of mind, he should not have to bow to that. Do not leave him over this. Good men are bloody impossible to find, you would be shooting yourself in the foot massively. Keep with the therapy because you do sound like you have a lot of things in your mind to unpick.

AquaForce · 03/11/2025 12:14

This is the BPD OP.

You love how your husband used to make you feel. That's not the same as loving him. His behaviour while you were dating, silenced the BPD noise. You were temporarily relieved from it and it felt good.

You want to recreate the situations where his actions soothe your emotional dysregulation. Whether you realise it or not, you're looking at your DH as a therapy tool. He doesn't 'work' as well as he used to and so you are wondering if you should leave him.

It would be virtually impossible to find someone who can be a shield from your own mind 100% of the time. BPD is so destructive and robs people of normal everyday peace.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:15

JipJup · 03/11/2025 12:11

Lol, like you don't know his bank details to send him the money 🤣🙄

He sends it back.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 03/11/2025 12:16

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:44

Ok maybe I used the wrong bloody word!!!! My point is he never ever plans anything- dinners, drinks, cinema whatever!!!! My point is if I did not plan these things we would NEVER leave the house!

But what “planning” is there? You’ve said he doesn’t see friends or go out much at all, so he’s a captive audience. Make a booking at a restaurant and then say “I booked that nice Italian for 7pm on Friday.” Or tonight, say “let’s go to that new pub down the street for a drink.” It’s not onerous. Then go out, and have a nice time. The actual going out and doing something together and enjoying the time and conversation is meant to be the focus, whereas you’re making it into an odd game about who made the booking or came up with the venue and this being a demonstration of devotion.

You’ll be a lot happier if you each play to your strengths here: you like plans, he likes paying for them. Bosh, sorted. A match made in heaven.

KidsDoBetter · 03/11/2025 12:17

I think OP that you need to take a good hard look at yourself here. Its entirely unrealistic to expect a relationship to be like the early days of dating.

There is nothing in your post about HIM - what it must be like for him dealing with someone who despite being told twice daily that she is loved, still needs endless reassurance, has a mental health disorder but he is still 100% there for you and with you. Perhaps you might consider would anything ever be enough for you really and that this is very much a YOU problem. You may have a hole of neediness that no one could ever fill. Your self worth has to come from you - not someone else.

No one is ever perfect and sounds like you are not either. I know I am not in my relationship and I do do more of the planning. That's just the way it is and you have to accept him for who is is. By all means divorce him but you will find your next partner - if you find one - will also have shortcomings.

Let the man get on with his work instead of asking him for long declarations of love. Think also of his needs and how YOU mighht want to improve what you bring to the relationship.

VictoriousPunge · 03/11/2025 12:17

Have you talked to your therapist about this?

Because despite many people saying YABU, telling you he sounds wonderful, that you sound ridiculously high maintenance, unrealistic, and even emotionally abusive... you seem to be taking none of it on board.

Perhaps a professional can convince you of these things, so you can take action before the poor man finds a) his mojo and b) someone who actually, actively loves him. From what you've described, you sound like a gigantic brat.

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 12:17

I suspect you just don't love him or are not attracted to him (do you feel smothered or as if he's too available? That can happen, rightly or wrongly) and you're homing in on this as an excuse.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:18

To everyone who gave me advice, thank you. I have taken it into account. I appreciate your perspectives and I can see why this is hard for him. I particularly like the idea of each writing down an idea and picking a piece of paper.

To answer some Qs- we have no kids, I am still in therapy and I do love him

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KidsDoBetter · 03/11/2025 12:18

AquaForce · 03/11/2025 12:14

This is the BPD OP.

You love how your husband used to make you feel. That's not the same as loving him. His behaviour while you were dating, silenced the BPD noise. You were temporarily relieved from it and it felt good.

You want to recreate the situations where his actions soothe your emotional dysregulation. Whether you realise it or not, you're looking at your DH as a therapy tool. He doesn't 'work' as well as he used to and so you are wondering if you should leave him.

It would be virtually impossible to find someone who can be a shield from your own mind 100% of the time. BPD is so destructive and robs people of normal everyday peace.

This sounds incredibly insightful. What does your therapist make of it all @ldnelegantelephant ?

herbaltincture · 03/11/2025 12:19

Must be hard for you, living with a malfunctioning self-object.

Zanatdy · 03/11/2025 12:20

you clearly don’t love him if you’re willing to divorce over such a trivial issue.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:20

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 12:17

I suspect you just don't love him or are not attracted to him (do you feel smothered or as if he's too available? That can happen, rightly or wrongly) and you're homing in on this as an excuse.

I do love him and I am attracted to him. I get so excited when he is coming home from work. I try go above and beyond for him always. I do love him. This is just something that has been making me feel emotionally unfulfilled.

OP posts:
moderate · 03/11/2025 12:21

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:15

He sends it back.

There you go again, only ever responding to this one narrow issue on which you can prove you’re in the right.

You clearly came here looking for validation in the decision you’ve already made. Allow me to provide that validation in spades. Run for the hills. I think you need to be on your own for a while to realise where the problem lies.

Cardinalita90 · 03/11/2025 12:22

How do you show love for him? It seems very me me me.

wonderfullife1 · 03/11/2025 12:24

This site is getting ruined by made up threads, its getting worse and worse.

Spot them a mile away, by way they respond.

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 12:24

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:20

I do love him and I am attracted to him. I get so excited when he is coming home from work. I try go above and beyond for him always. I do love him. This is just something that has been making me feel emotionally unfulfilled.

Well then, chuck it all away by all means because he has one imperfect feature that's fixed by you taking the lead in this one regard.

The PP post about the nature of the BPD was very insightful. If the problem really is you, and it sounds likely that it is, you won't solve anything by chucking him. You might also be very surprised at just how much regulating he does do for you, once you no longer have him and he's giving his energy to someone else.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:24

Cardinalita90 · 03/11/2025 12:22

How do you show love for him? It seems very me me me.

I cook him his favourite foods, pack him lunch for work and don't even pack lunch for myself, I constantly vocalise my love for him, I leave him notes, I give physical affection as I know that is what he likes even though I am generally not someone who does physical affection, etc.

I do love my husband. To suggest otherwise just because I asked for advice is crazy.

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 12:24

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:20

I do love him and I am attracted to him. I get so excited when he is coming home from work. I try go above and beyond for him always. I do love him. This is just something that has been making me feel emotionally unfulfilled.

So let’s say in your (un) wisdom you divorce him. You then hear he’s remarried and his wife is really happy with him. She does the date planning but she doesn’t mind because she’s married a great guy. One day you see them walking down the street, they only have eyes for each other, he barely gives you a glance. How would you honestly feel.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:25

wonderfullife1 · 03/11/2025 12:24

This site is getting ruined by made up threads, its getting worse and worse.

Spot them a mile away, by way they respond.

I wish this was made up. Why wold I take time out of my working day to write a fake thread and respond to commenters?

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winnieranran · 03/11/2025 12:25

Poor man! I hope he realises that you're actually abusive!

The fact that he's 'begged you' to give him a chance!!! He needs to leave and find someone who appreciates and deserves him, poor man.

Mymanyellow · 03/11/2025 12:26

I think you’re childish tbh. He sounds like a good egg to me. Lots of women would like a husband like yours. Divorce if you want to but I think you’ll be sorry.

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 12:31

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:24

I cook him his favourite foods, pack him lunch for work and don't even pack lunch for myself, I constantly vocalise my love for him, I leave him notes, I give physical affection as I know that is what he likes even though I am generally not someone who does physical affection, etc.

I do love my husband. To suggest otherwise just because I asked for advice is crazy.

What? It's being suggested because you're considering divorcing him. What a dishonest take. And why don't you make lunch for yourself?

jaelato1 · 03/11/2025 12:32

I honestly think this is a wind up...I mean wtf

If this is NOT a made up story, I am convinced OP are one of those people that likes toxic but exciting relationship, I'll seek therapy if I were OP.

Zimunya · 03/11/2025 12:32

HedwigEliza · 03/11/2025 10:21

You’d actually divorce him over this? Because he’s only 99% perfect? You must be crazy.

Some people are never satisfied and don’t know when they have a good thing.

He’s not yours to shape and create - he’s his own person. He can’t be exactly who you want him to be. All the many wonderful attributes he has and everything he brings to the table, and all of that pales into insignificance? You throw it all away for petty nonsense?

You really don’t know how lucky you are.

First post nailed it.

DoorOpening · 03/11/2025 12:32

My dh rarely plans fun things at the weekends or organises holidays etc. I do most of this and I find it annoying that he’s so passive. We argue about it sometimes and I get frustrated - so I definitely understand this. (I don’t think I’m terms of Date Night because we’re not dating.)

So, yes it’s annoying - but it’s ok. I can live with it. It’s a reflection of who he is, just one aspect of his character. I’m more restless and energetic and impatient - I know these traits annoy him too! But it’s ok. Neither of us think the other should be perfect. I know he loves me and I love him. 19 years married.